Not to mention Ross Perot, Rick Perry, Clayton Powell, and GW Bush. Oh, and JFK was killed here. Everybody's armed, it's legal here. It's a very red state with no blue tint in sight. Very religious, at least publicly. No casinos allowed, thank you very much. We don't do casinos, we're .......insert your religious preference here. Of course, we drive to Louisiana and Oklahoma and gamble there, taking a lot of good and needed money out of state. We don't do welfare much, and if Kinky is right, our education system is dead last. So, come on down.REWahoo! said:
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I think it has more to do with it being a "blue state"....you know, liberal/progressive values and give more to the poor keeps them from being angry criminals
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Interesting. The state I moved from ranked at the 70% place (with 1% being highest), while the state I moved to is at 25%. The first taxes only income, the other only has a sales tax. I know the latter has a higher % of _high_ earners, but there isn't a lot of difference in income per capatia. Humm...
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Nords said:
Alabama?
Ohio doesn't have casinos.
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REWahoo! said:
Plus gambling on races at the horse and dog tracks.
I defer to REW. Didn't know about the Kickapoo.
But, my main point is that because of influence bought by lobbyists, sought and praised by the religious right and enforced by Texas politicians, tons of money go out of state.
See Jack Abramahoff and Ralph Reed.
http://www.pbs.org/now/politics/indiangaming.html
http://www.cleanuptexaspolitics.com/node/view/333
An excerpt....
Abramoff and Scanlon did not want to see Cornyn discouraged or slowed down. Their biggest paying client was the Coushatta tribe of Louisiana, which considered any casino in Texas a threat to its Interstate 10 gambling market. Cornyn’s lawsuit was the quickest way to put the Tiguas out of business. If they could help Cornyn kill the Tigua casino, they would have a federal court order declaring Indian gaming in Texas illegal. The ruling would also shut down the casino the Alabama Coushatta Tribe was trying to get up and going in Livingston, Texas, 75 miles north of Houston. (The Alabama Coushattas never made it back to Alabama because Sam Houston offered them land in appreciation for their help in the Texas war of independence. They belong to the same tribal family that includes the Coushattas in Louisiana, share the same blood and customs, and sometimes intermarry with their cousins on the other side of the Sabine River. But to the Louisiana Coushatta tribe, preserving their regional Indian gaming monopoly was more important than the family ties that bind them to their Texas relatives.)
Abramoff was in a difficult situation. It was unseemly for the Coushattas in Louisiana to work openly to deny their desperately poor Texas cousins the income a casino would provide. It would be difficult for Abramoff to sign the Tiguas as clients later if they knew he had worked to shut down their casino. And he marketed himself as a pro-Indian-gaming lobbyist. For various reasons, openly leading an anti-gaming crusade in Texas on behalf of the Louisiana Coushattas was not an option.
Ralph Reed was the perfect cover.
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When Reed left the Christian Coalition in 1997 to start his own company, he announced he would only accept clients who oppose gambling, abortion, and higher taxes. Four years later he was doing deals with Jack Abramoff and Mike Scanlon, and his company, Century Strategies, was awash in money befouled by gaming tables or slot machines.
“Reed’s a Christian and he’s too sanctimonious to take money directly from a casino operator,” said a Louisiana political consultant who works on gambling issues. “But he’ll take it from lobbyists who take it from casino operators.” There was no way, despite Reed’s denials, the consultant said, that he could be unaware of Abramoff’s clients.
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We do have a state lottery, which has its own problems.
I find it DUMB that money flows to Louisiana, New Mexico, Las Vegas and Oklahoma which ought to be used in this state. Oops, too much preaching. I'm going back to my 2nd cup of coffee.
But, my main point is that because of influence bought by lobbyists, sought and praised by the religious right and enforced by Texas politicians, tons of money go out of state.
See Jack Abramahoff and Ralph Reed.
http://www.pbs.org/now/politics/indiangaming.html
http://www.cleanuptexaspolitics.com/node/view/333
An excerpt....
Abramoff and Scanlon did not want to see Cornyn discouraged or slowed down. Their biggest paying client was the Coushatta tribe of Louisiana, which considered any casino in Texas a threat to its Interstate 10 gambling market. Cornyn’s lawsuit was the quickest way to put the Tiguas out of business. If they could help Cornyn kill the Tigua casino, they would have a federal court order declaring Indian gaming in Texas illegal. The ruling would also shut down the casino the Alabama Coushatta Tribe was trying to get up and going in Livingston, Texas, 75 miles north of Houston. (The Alabama Coushattas never made it back to Alabama because Sam Houston offered them land in appreciation for their help in the Texas war of independence. They belong to the same tribal family that includes the Coushattas in Louisiana, share the same blood and customs, and sometimes intermarry with their cousins on the other side of the Sabine River. But to the Louisiana Coushatta tribe, preserving their regional Indian gaming monopoly was more important than the family ties that bind them to their Texas relatives.)
Abramoff was in a difficult situation. It was unseemly for the Coushattas in Louisiana to work openly to deny their desperately poor Texas cousins the income a casino would provide. It would be difficult for Abramoff to sign the Tiguas as clients later if they knew he had worked to shut down their casino. And he marketed himself as a pro-Indian-gaming lobbyist. For various reasons, openly leading an anti-gaming crusade in Texas on behalf of the Louisiana Coushattas was not an option.
Ralph Reed was the perfect cover.
..cut
When Reed left the Christian Coalition in 1997 to start his own company, he announced he would only accept clients who oppose gambling, abortion, and higher taxes. Four years later he was doing deals with Jack Abramoff and Mike Scanlon, and his company, Century Strategies, was awash in money befouled by gaming tables or slot machines.
“Reed’s a Christian and he’s too sanctimonious to take money directly from a casino operator,” said a Louisiana political consultant who works on gambling issues. “But he’ll take it from lobbyists who take it from casino operators.” There was no way, despite Reed’s denials, the consultant said, that he could be unaware of Abramoff’s clients.
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We do have a state lottery, which has its own problems.
I find it DUMB that money flows to Louisiana, New Mexico, Las Vegas and Oklahoma which ought to be used in this state. Oops, too much preaching. I'm going back to my 2nd cup of coffee.
Ironically Las Vegas (and the airlines) have a huge vested interest in keeping Hawaii a no-gambling state. I'm sure the same could be said for the two or three Utahians sneaking across state lines.Eagle43 said:
I'm sure some MBA-finance wizard is trying to figure out how to boost revenues at a reasonable cost by recreating Las Vegas in Hawaii... but even the cruise ships go without casinos here.
I think I'd go through a month of playing high-stakes progressive-betting blackjack before I lost interest (or got driven out by the cigar smoke) and headed back to the beach. But, oh the social problems that the state would develop.
