It's a shame you feel that way. My experience has led me to the opposite conclusion, although some people may confuse lawyers with their occasional dishonest clients.Honesty and Lawyer is like Water and Oil.
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It's a shame you feel that way. My experience has led me to the opposite conclusion, although some people may confuse lawyers with their occasional dishonest clients.Honesty and Lawyer is like Water and Oil.
You have to remembered that I have been divorced twice and sued once in my professional practice for something that wasn't negligence on my part.It's a shame you feel that way. My experience has led me to the opposite conclusion, although some people may confuse lawyers with their occasional dishonest clients.
That doesn't change my opinion of lawyers.You have to remembered that I have been divorced twice and sued once in my professional practice for something that wasn't negligence on my part.
Good for you and I respect your opinion. IMHO, I haven't met a lawyer that I liked and who is totally honest (including one of my kids). But that's just me.That doesn't change my opinion of lawyers.
The WalMart experience depends on if you are in a big city or a small town. In my town of 23k with 44k in the county it is the second largest grocery store in town, having better selections in some areas than the others. Of course for non perishables, Wal-Mart has Amazon as a competitor which with Amazon charging sales tax but still a bit cheaper. (It should be Amazon does not have the inventory costs of Wal-Mart if it is at the stores, however Wal_Mart online has a bigger selection, and leverages its distribution network to do direct to store free shipping, since the truck goes from the distribution center to the store anyway).I don't really understand the Wal Mart reference. If you mean that Wal Mart is a low rent sort of place, full of tacky people, I guess that is arguably correct; but any reasonably successful retired lawyer who has invested prudently will not be compelled to shop at Walmart, and will be able to spend their time in tonier stores (or even doing things other than shopping!)..
This describes me exactly. I'm 10 years out of law school now, with two young children. I'm a partner in a great firm, but I'm just not willing to make the lifestyle sacrifices necessary to spend the rest of my career here. So, I'm trying to wrangle my way into an in-house job. I'm probably jinxing it by writing about it, actually.
This describes me exactly. I'm 10 years out of law school now, with two young children. I'm a partner in a great firm, but I'm just not willing to make the lifestyle sacrifices necessary to spend the rest of my career here. So, I'm trying to wrangle my way into an in-house job. I'm probably jinxing it by writing about it, actually.
Speaking as a recovering atty, I tend to agree that in broad brush, the law more or less attracts 3 general types: (1) those for whom it is a calling; (2) those who want to save the world; and (3) those who are a bit indifferent to The Law, but are highly motivated to make a good living for themselves/family, and also find it intellectually stimulating enough as a career. These are of course gross over-generalizations, and there's a bit of overlap across the groups, with a lot of (1) and (2) grouped together.
Many of the RE candidates among lawyers I know are in (3). (1) and (2) won't leave b/c they truly love the work and/or can't afford to quit due to low paying public interest/sector jobs or b/c they are paying alimony to two or three ex-spouses b/c they bill 2500 hrs a year!
On the other side of that, however, legal skills improve over time with experience and usually hard-earned wisdom. It's often the 60-70+ y/o senior attorney who has seen it all before who can cut through a bunch of crap and get stuff done/resolved. They've seen it all and take no gruff from anyone, judges, peers, clients or regulators. That's one positive reason they stay if they enjoy it - they help their clients or employers and are well paid for it.
For those looking to RE, I think it's a lot easier to do in a corp role where you have the chance of an equity event or at least equity compensation to boost your returns. Many big firm lawyers are too busy to tend their investments actively and are prohibited from taking direct stakes in any current or potential clients -- so they end up in mutual funds with a set-and-forget approach. This works, but takes time ... and once you've paid of your loans, etc. you may not be on the early track.
FWIW, I am more than happy to not be practicing law one year into RE, and I've found plenty to occupy my time, incl some consulting and BOD work and a very active trading business.
On the other side of that, however, legal skills improve over time with experience and usually hard-earned wisdom. It's often the 60-70+ y/o senior attorney who has seen it all before who can cut through a bunch of crap and get stuff done/resolved. They've seen it all and take no gruff from anyone, judges, peers, clients or regulators. That's one positive reason they stay if they enjoy it - they help their clients or employers and are well paid for it.
So reasons vary, but at least one over-riding reason in my mind is that "they can". They aren't going to be fired, down-sized, or have some boss make them relocate their lives to the point they'd rather quit. Also, unless they are suffering cognitive issues, physical impairments that might make a dentist, a surgeon, a carpenter or someone who has to travel a lot, quit, won't preclude them from continuing.
They don't have a boss insisting they work more hours than they want, so they can fit work into life, rather than trying to fit life around work.