Wow, it’s getting really scary in Texas - and everywhere else!

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The lieutenant governor was on Fox News yesterday explaining Texas' COROVID's situation. He put it in terms that were understandable--comparing it with NY/NJ. Deaths are still very low in Texas which means hospitals are dealing with the virus much better than other states.
 
Bamaman said:
The lieutenant governor was on Fox News yesterday explaining Texas' COROVID's situation. He put it in terms that were understandable--comparing it with NY/NJ. Deaths are still very low in Texas which means hospitals are dealing with the virus much better than other states.
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"Be calm little muppets, let the poison do it's work.'
 
Bamaman said:
Deaths are still very low in Texas which means hospitals are dealing with the virus much better than other states.
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This won't continue if the exponential growth in new cases and hospitalizations isn't somehow slowed in the next couple of weeks. And with the July 4th holiday coming up the chance of reducing spread is highly unlikely. TGFCGP*




*Thank God For Curbside Grocery Pickup
 
I'm surprised that they don't report good news, which is the number of death declining.
At least, the news media should report all numbers.
 
Poopycat said:
It isn’t just the young folks running around. I have friends there who are in their 40’s and 50’s - some who are in higher-risk populations - and they are running around like there is no virus too.
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Ditto that ! People are done with covid, the problem is, covid isn't done with people.
 
flyingaway said:
I'm surprised that they don't report good news, which is the number of death declining.
At least, the news media should report all numbers.
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Death is a lagging indicator. A covid fatality comes after 4-6-8 weeks of illness. The death numbers are illnesses mostly before June, and many well before May, back when the curve was getting smushed still.

This week's test results are the "fruit" of infections that seeded 2-3-4 weeks ago, so the outcomes won't start showing up until late July. I do think we'll see lower fatality rates vs. April, because the cases are now in the wider population, with lower co-morbidities, and also because we're getting (slightly) better at treating the illness.

But from everything I've read, I don't want to take my changes with getting this, this isn't an A/B outcome illness. There's nothing/mild/moderate/debilitating for months/who-knows-long-term/ etc...
 
frayne said:
Ditto that ! People are done with covid, the problem is, covid isn't done with people.
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+1

I see it here, folks on vacation are not participating in social distancing or masks. Who knew the virus does not care?
 
Aerides said:
Death is a lagging indicator. A covid fatality comes after 4-6-8 weeks of illness. The death numbers are illnesses mostly before June, and many well before May, back when the curve was getting smushed still.

This week's test results are the "fruit" of infections that seeded 2-3-4 weeks ago, so the outcomes won't start showing up until late July. I do think we'll see lower fatality rates vs. April, because the cases are now in the wider population, with lower co-morbidities, and also because we're getting (slightly) better at treating the illness.

But from everything I've read, I don't want to take my changes with getting this, this isn't an A/B outcome illness. There's nothing/mild/moderate/debilitating for months/who-knows-long-term/ etc...
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Spot on.
 
I don't live in Texas. I live up North in a state this a rather different from Texas - population 7.2 million, about 1/4 of Texas. But, just for comparison......

The infection rate in my county was about 36 new people per day - ten days ago. As of yesterday it is about 96 new people a day.

State wide about a month ago our Rt was 0.93. Yesterday it was 1.09. My 7 day average was 301 new cases a day 10 days ago. Today it is 512 new cases.

We have had a slow, phased opening. And, a large number of people exercising their 1st Amendment rights.
 
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My friend who works in the infrastructure (for travel) industry said on his trip to Florida 1-2 weeks ago they were way more lax than Texas (almost no masks, multiple uber drivers saying he doesn’t need to wear one, etc)

Texas is pretty bad, during vulnerable shopping time yesterday saw a lady walking through the store on her phone, mask around her neck.
A 70+ year old neighbors is convinced everyone will get it so why bother delaying the inevitable. ‘You just need to be active and you’ll be fine’. They just had a big group lunch and one of them attendees tested positive later. We cross the street when we see them walking.

In my city there are a lot of people taking all precautions. But there are also many who think it is a hoax and are doing nothing different.
Others (know several) are forced back to work (unemployment ends with the offer) so they end up with kids in daycare and going to the office.

Tell me, if you have kids in daycare and work at the office - are you really going to go the extra mile when you are on your time off?
 
Heard on the news this morning in Houston that area ICU beds are filled at 100% - not all COVID related but not the percentage desired as the number of cases increase.

I'm grateful that I’m in my early 50s and have zero desire to go out to bars like I did in my 20s and 30s. Perfectly content right now w*rking remotely and watching reruns of Dark Shadows on Amazon Prime.
 
Aerides said:
This week's test results are the "fruit" of infections that seeded 2-3-4 weeks ago, so the outcomes won't start showing up until late July. I do think we'll see lower fatality rates vs. April, because the cases are now in the wider population, with lower co-morbidities, and also because we're getting (slightly) better at treating the illness.
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Exactly. But since new cases in TX are running 5-6,000 per day vs. 1,000 per day back in April, even if the death rate is cut in half the number of fatalities will still be substantial.

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REWahoo said:
This won't continue if the exponential growth in new cases and hospitalizations isn't somehow slowed in the next couple of weeks. And with the July 4th holiday coming up the chance of reducing spread is highly unlikely. TGFCGP**Thank God For Curbside Grocery Pickup
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That's why he fell all over himself to spout these words now. Yes. It's true. It is manageable and we are nowhere near a NY/NJ type situation. Today!

Next week or the week after they can just rerun this clip for as long as people will keep wanting to believe it.
 
pj.mask said:
My friend who works in the infrastructure (for travel) industry said on his trip to Florida 1-2 weeks ago they were way more lax than Texas (almost no masks, multiple uber drivers saying he doesn’t need to wear one, etc)

Texas is pretty bad, during vulnerable shopping time yesterday saw a lady walking through the store on her phone, mask around her neck.
A 70+ year old neighbors is convinced everyone will get it so why bother delaying the inevitable. ‘You just need to be active and you’ll be fine’. They just had a big group lunch and one of them attendees tested positive later. We cross the street when we see them walking.

In my city there are a lot of people taking all precautions. But there are also many who think it is a hoax and are doing nothing different.
Others (know several) are forced back to work (unemployment ends with the offer) so they end up with kids in daycare and going to the office.

Tell me, if you have kids in daycare and work at the office - are you really going to go the extra mile when you are on your time off?
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I live near the border of 2 counties in FLA and since the mandatory mask wearing is now in place for indoor places, I am seeing close to 100% compliance at the different grocery stores I have attended.
 
Aerides said:
Death is a lagging indicator. A covid fatality comes after 4-6-8 weeks of illness. The death numbers are illnesses mostly before June, and many well before May, back when the curve was getting smushed still.

This week's test results are the "fruit" of infections that seeded 2-3-4 weeks ago, so the outcomes won't start showing up until late July. I do think we'll see lower fatality rates vs. April, because the cases are now in the wider population, with lower co-morbidities, and also because we're getting (slightly) better at treating the illness.

But from everything I've read, I don't want to take my changes with getting this, this isn't an A/B outcome illness. There's nothing/mild/moderate/debilitating for months/who-knows-long-term/ etc...
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Exactly! We don't know long term effects. Many articles, cases are hinting at the possibility of recurring symptoms, new symptoms weeks later, sudden symptoms weeks after the initial positive test result when the case was "mild" with very few symptoms. We forget how many years of studying and learning about cancer...the many different forms, many different outcomes. Figuring out statistics if you did this treatment you'll get X% chance of recurrence and on and on. We've become a society that wants to know NOW! As much as I believe in science, we are in the baby stage of understanding this virus and the many viruses/mutations/forms to come.
 
Age split around here. I seem to see Kansas City -MO and KS side still a correlation between grey and and mask wearing. The younger the less likely wear a mask. Except for mandatory workers/employer required.

I fear the best is yet to come in the lower mid west with the peak later in various places.

heh heh heh - even I blow it. Did social distancing/take out BBQ on the porch with relatives who camped out on their way up from San Diego. And then -duh- did a group picture to text to my Sis out on the Olympic Peninsula.:facepalm:
 
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Rustic23 said:
Anyone who has seen ReWahoo post on Texas knows that it has always been 'scary in Texas' :)
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True. Maybe he inspired the title. :cool:

Now he’s got another biggie to add to his list! :D
 
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Bamaman said:
The lieutenant governor was on Fox News yesterday explaining Texas' COROVID's situation. He put it in terms that were understandable--comparing it with NY/NJ. Deaths are still very low in Texas which means hospitals are dealing with the virus much better than other states.
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I don’t think that there has been enough time yet for so much confidence. Also, when TX exceeds 500,000 cases, then perhaps comparisons can be made.

Yes, generally death rates are going to be lower, but the Lt. Gov. hasn’t begun to see the death spike yet. And given that hospitals are getting full already, the rate could go up due to inadequate medical care.
 
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From what you all are telling me, and I have no reason not to believe you, the situation in Texas sounds pretty awful. :( I have a soft spot in my heart for Texas, Texans, and the Texan way of life, due to living in College Station for 13 years back in the 80's and 90's. Good people and I truly hate to see this happening.

If I lived in Texas, then this week I'd get enough food in my pantry and freezer to last at least 2-4 months, plus medications (Walgreen's lets me fill my scrips for 90 days), plus lots of TP and so on. Then I'd stay at home and not even go out for curbside pick up of food, until I felt like the worst of it had passed.

But that's just me. That's what I did when things were scariest here. One advantage of this sort of complete, actual isolation is that I guess my immunity built up; anyway I haven't even had a cold since all this started.

Here in Louisiana things had been improving markedly, but I'm not so sure now and I am watching it like a hawk. A few days ago our governor decided to delay Phase 3 for an additional month; previously it was scheduled to begin today.

I just put in a bulk order for my favorite canned soup to Amazon, plus a separate bulk order of my favorite TP through Amazon. Now I need to replenish other items too just in case we have to go back into isolation.
 
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