Buying a car... what do you think...

[W2R]

I thought leather was about impossible in the south as they get so hot. No?

Frank has leather seats on his Murano. Due to window tinting and one of those foldable silver sun block thingies that blocks sun from coming in the windshield, they don't really get that hot. But without all that, they would.

I have know people with regular cars whose leather seats get really hot. They usually sit on a towel (I know, I know, pretty pointless).

All in all, I prefer fabric seats.

 

[brewer12345]

IMO, "American" car means that the actual profits are returning to an American company. America's wealth is slowly being drained away, but no one takes notice as they defend their Toyota/Hyundai/Honda. It's the new world economy, donchaknow? otstirrer:

JMO, and buy anything you want...it's your money.

Profits? In the auto industry? Haaaahahahahahaha!!! Pull the other one; its got bells on.

 

[Leonidas]

I thought leather was about impossible in the south as they get so hot. No?

Nah, we got more leather down here than an S&M convention.

It's not much of a problem as long as you remember to put the sunscreeen up in the windshield whenever you park outside. Forgetting, while wearing shorts, as my wife often does, can bring forth pain on the bare skin.

Thanks to whoever turned the thinking here towards Hyundai. The Genesis Coupe looks like something I might want and the warranty is sweet. Have to do some more research first, but it wasn't something I would have even considered before reading this thread.

 

[Texas Proud]

Nah, we got more leather down here than an S&M convention.

It's not much of a problem as long as you remember to put the sunscreeen up in the windshield whenever you park outside. Forgetting, while wearing shorts, as my wife often does, can bring forth pain on the bare skin.

Thanks to whoever turned the thinking here towards Hyundai. The Genesis Coupe looks like something I might want and the warranty is sweet. Have to do some more research first, but it wasn't something I would have even considered before reading this thread.

Actually, the Genesis coupe is something that I would like to get for me... but I am TRYING to get my wife weened off an Explorer.... which gets 16 mpg... OR to go as cheap as possible for now... also, at the dealerships they only seem to have the top of the line right now... say $30K and up... so again, not in the cards at this time...

 

[martyb]

Less than an hour ago, I was on a Hyundai lot, just killing time. I'd never heard of the Genesis, but there were a couple of them parked side by side. One was a completely loaded out SUV looking type vehicle, the other one was a sporty coupe. The sticker on the SUV one was just over $40,000!!! and the coupe was $28,000. I remember when you could buy TWO Hyundai Excels in Austin, TX for $8000! Of course, you needed the 2nd one for when the transmission fell out of the first one at around 50,000 miles! However, the thing that I really noticed, other than the prices on the cars, was that the SUV style Genesis sticker said 86% foreign (Korea & Japan) parts, just 4% American parts, & it didn't say where the other 10% were from. The sporty coupe version was 80% Korean & 3% U.S.,didn't say about the rest. It did say that the vehicle was 100% assembled in Korea, though. I think the SUV was also assemble somewhere else, but I don't recall where.

 

[Zoomie]

From memory, I believe the Sonata sticker said 60% of parts made in Korea, 40% in USA and assembled in Alabama.

 

[Texas Proud]

Less than an hour ago, I was on a Hyundai lot, just killing time. I'd never heard of the Genesis, but there were a couple of them parked side by side. One was a completely loaded out SUV looking type vehicle, the other one was a sporty coupe. The sticker on the SUV one was just over $40,000!!! and the coupe was $28,000. I remember when you could buy TWO Hyundai Excels in Austin, TX for $8000! Of course, you needed the 2nd one for when the transmission fell out of the first one at around 50,000 miles! However, the thing that I really noticed, other than the prices on the cars, was that the SUV style Genesis sticker said 86% foreign (Korea & Japan) parts, just 4% American parts, & it didn't say where the other 10% were from. The sporty coupe version was 80% Korean & 3% U.S.,didn't say about the rest. It did say that the vehicle was 100% assembled in Korea, though. I think the SUV was also assemble somewhere else, but I don't recall where.

You must not had seen the Genesis if you thought it was an SUV.... it is more like a lexus or mercedes sedan than and SUV..

The top of the line car has a V-8 and is supposed to compete with the two cars I mentioned... you can buy one with a V-6 for the low to mid 30s I believe... the coupe is a completely different car... but the $28K is the mid point... it has the V-6, but not that much more... the base car has a turbo 4... cost below $23K IIRC...

 

[JOHNNIE36]

From Consumers Report, April 09 issue: Hyundai Genesis Sedan, price range $32K-$37500 and the Coupe price range $25K-$32K are two different cars. The Coupe is meant to offer the sportiness of an Infiniti G37 while in the price range of a Ford Mustang. They're not completely rated because they are new and there is no long term issues as yet. According to Consumers the Genesis Sedan has an overall road-test score of 92% which is tops for the "upscale sedan" category. Second was Lexus 350 and third was Toyata Avalon.

Also, according to Consumers Report, the top rated manufacturer is Honda at overall score of 78 while Hyundai is rated ninth with a score of 70. They mention in the reviews that Hyundai "has a long warranty but poor resale affects value". No clue as to why the poor resale.

 

[Zoomie]

""Hyundai "has a long warranty but poor resale affects value". No clue as to why the poor resale."" -- probably because they were poorly built until the last 4-5 years. It takes a long time for a bad opinion to fade away.

 

[ziggy29]

Also, according to Consumers Report, the top rated manufacturer is Honda at overall score of 78 while Hyundai is rated ninth with a score of 70. They mention in the reviews that Hyundai "has a long warranty but poor resale affects value". No clue as to why the poor resale.

Resale value is first and foremost a function of perceived long-term quality. This may or may not translate to higher actual quality, but it's the perception that matters in the marketplace.

Detroit could start building the most reliable cars ever and Honda and Toyota could start cranking out junk like Detroit circa 1980, and it would still take MANY years for the perception of Ford and Chevy to catch up to the reputation of Honda and Toyota, and many years before the U.S. automakers saw improved resale value relative to the Japanese models.

Presumably the market isn't sold on Hyundai's long term quality.

 

[Bestwifeever]

We bought our first car in 1977, a VW Dasher. Even car novices like us found the Hondas to be scary little cars--the new ones test-drove terribly and the materials came across as extremely cheap, and the ones on the road were chock full of rust. Twenty years later we bought our first Honda.

New Hyundais imho are so far above those early Hondas and surveys of them in a few years will probably show their resale value has risen. So I wouldn't even consider a Hyundai's resale value if I were buying a new car--it will surely get better.

 

[bbbamI]

I thought leather was about impossible in the south as they get so hot. No?

I was a little wary when we got our Accord with leather seats a few years ago, but it's really not a problem. When it's in the sun, it can be a little toasty, but not that bad IMO. I wear shorts all summer long and have never had to put a towel on my seat.

As far as the winter time goes, my car has bun warmers....ahhhhhh....

 

[WhoDaresWins]

I voted for the Sonata also.