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NO WAY they are con artists plain and simple 74 77.89%
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Old 07-24-2008, 11:32 AM   #21
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Tall blond Phd, Tulane - I tested INTJ. .
Yeah in the days of the company of Marie Brizard, my Thinking was Judgmental as well, among other things.
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Old 07-24-2008, 12:01 PM   #22
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I believe, I BELIEVE!!

Well, I think some people have a keener sense of the things unseen. I would even venture to say that it is scientifically proven. (Not talking to the dead part, but the fact that some people have more paranormal abilities than others, but I know some universities, including Stanford here, have had some studies like that done in the past.)

I have seen on TV one time of this guy who was legally blind but he could walk without any trouble because he could detect objects around him (I think he used his mouth to make noise and determined the way the noise reflected back to him to find out if he was close to hitting something, but I saw this segment a few years ago and I cannot remember exactly how he did it...). Not many blind people can do that, but this guy could. He somehow developed an extraordinary sensory ability to do things average people cannot.

My point is, just because I don't have much of the 6th sense doesn't mean others don't.

This is not to say all the psychics have extraordinary abilities to see the unseen. I believe majority of them are out there to take advantage of the vulnerable and desparate.

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My neighbor believes in psychics, crystals, naturopaths and every other woo-woo thing out there. Funny, though. You would have thought a psychic would have been able to tell her her husband was a pathetically bad businessman who wouldn't be able to retire because he can't save.
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That characteristic thing I can never grasp. I am either ENTJ or ESTJ, don't know if I am more intuition or sensing. On one hand, I like to deal with facts as opposed to the abstract, however, I can often justify myself going for my gut feeling most of the time.

I would say ESTJ.
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Well, I had an interesting experience with one. We were at a friends' house. She was sponsoring a medium and we paid $20 to hear him along with 30 or so other people. It was very interesting. He contacted my wife's late mother. (He didn't know my wife's name and it is different than mine). He knew two of my wife's brothers' names (Dennis and Eugene (not common names)). He knew that Eugene was dead and Dennis was a teacher. He knew my FIL was dead also. He knew some other family stuff. My wife is from a small town in Montana so family stories would not be common knowledge down here in Phoenix. He was wrong on one or two things and there was a story about a Buick that we could never verify. We have never heard from him again asking for more money or even a referral.

So, I thought it was very eye opening. I have no better explanation, given the information that he presented other than he was psychic and received that information through some unexplained connection.

Go figure.
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In my opinion, being a psychic is an easy way to make a good living separating people who want to believe from their cash....

If psychics gave away their insight and advice for free for the good of mankind, I'd be a lot less skeptical.
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So, I thought it was very eye opening. I have no better explanation, given the information that he presented other than he was psychic and received that information through some unexplained connection.
Maybe he told the same thing to 10,000 people and you're the only one that it matched up with?
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In my opinion, being a psychic is an easy way to make a good living separating people who want to believe from their cash....
Interesting. Do you think it's a prereq for being a hedge fund manager or just really helps?
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Maybe he told the same thing to 10,000 people and you're the only one that it matched up with?
Well, he gave readings to several other people in the room that they confirmed as accurate. That just increases the odds. And Dennis and Eugene are not the most common of names, especially since only her mom called him Eugene (he went by the name of Merc).
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In my opinion, being a psychic is an easy way to make a good living separating people who want to believe from their cash....

If psychics gave away their insight and advice for free for the good of mankind, I'd be a lot less skeptical.
Next you'll be asking economists to share their insights for free.
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One time I sat in a room full of 100 verified practicing psychics, all of which admitted to the fact that their practice was a sham and then each went on to sign an affidavit, under penalty of perjury, that restated that their practice was a sham.

Does this fact have any bearing on the veracity or falsehood of the claim that psychics can contact the dead?
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just to clarify terminology: though mediumship presumes psychicness, psychicness does not necessarily imply mediumship. even to roll the die one through six and then six back to one again in order and with no mistakes does not a medium make, nor does it prove connection beyond commonly perceived life.

& simply to clarify implication: even if all of life communicates with all of life all the time, and even if information (once conjured?) survives eternal, what proof is there of "life beyond" even if some parlor trick actually does retrieve information from the so-called ethers?

buddhists believe reincarnation, if occuring, happens within just a few weeks of death (i think it is supposedly some 50odd days). so perhaps, at best, the medium is just fooling you by "talking" to evil spirits disguised as your loved one. boo!

often hope if false but i have faith that the sun will rise tomorrow. sometimes faith and false hope is all we really have. regardless, i think it is safe to say that life is for the living.
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I've seen written papers in peer-reviewed scientific and medical journals that indicate that paranormal and supernatural activity isn't real. We're talking Oxford, MIT, Harvard - reputable places, folks. You can't deny it.
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Whenever we pass a rundown storefront with a "Palm Reader" sign, I always say to my wife, "You know why they don't take appts, right?" And she always wearily replies "Cause they know you're coming by?"


Once I asked my brother if he took physics in high school and my Dad popped up with "No, he always went by himself." Good old-fashioned joke.

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Some years ago on the outskirts of Baltimore the cops raided a psychic's place of business. Raid was successful. Cops were joking: she shouda seen it coming.
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I voted no way like 75% of you folks. I have always thought the paranormal, ESP, psy-chicks and the like are pulling my leg and do not really believe in this stuff. Of course, there are probably a good number of folks who may think me a bit wacky for believing in God. So I guess it all balances out in the wash.

What the heck, as long as you don't get too carried away with our individual wackyness~play on.
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Of course they exist. Did I ever tell you about my (former) friend who consulted one before seeing her FA about buying an annuity. Yes, it's all about moolah.
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Well, he gave readings to several other people in the room that they confirmed as accurate. That just increases the odds. And Dennis and Eugene are not the most common of names, especially since only her mom called him Eugene (he went by the name of Merc).
He ran all your license plates before he came in for dinner?
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