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Old 12-24-2010, 12:03 PM   #21
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And that's how T-Al has no taxable income.
He loves those NOLs.

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Old 12-24-2010, 12:13 PM   #22
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It's amazing how many exceptional musicians obviously can't make money at it. As an example, if you go to youtube and watch/listen to Shake Russell playing at "house parties" or even someone like John Prine who plays at slightly larger venues:
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Speaking of John Prine... Al just hasn't paid his dues...



Of course... It could be worse.

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Yes!!, because I love jazz and it a shame to have no musical ability, so hopefully you can find another venue. If you invoice them for the cancelled session, could you write it off against other income?
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John prine is a poet, his songs drip with loss and with trying and sometimes succeeding in finding that little space where you are feeling intensely, and it's almost making you cry, but you discover that you like it, you are OK. He can put this into other people's songs too, or probably discover it there. I have to meter my exposure though.

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If you guys really enjoy making music for its own sake, is it worthwhile to just set up in public and play with a hat out? Is busking legal? I'd think there'd be a lot of flexibility and maybe you'd pick up a few bucks. Or maybe folks who pay nothing and stumble onto a great band on the street are a bunch of inconsiderate boobs.
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I could get depressed on this thread. Younger son is a music major in college, tried to talk him out of it, told him 'music is a great minor'. Its worse than that, he's a percussion performance major. His off campus gigs are free food only. I mumble about his employment prospects: " You want fries with that?" But he does well, on the Dean's List, happy, not in jail, the GF isn't pregnant. And we are in a city (LA) where people do make a living making music. Who knows, but he was a very good student in math and science in a good school district, so its painful for this NASA dad to see that capacity not used.
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I often say "Jazz is a career that you have to save up for."
Luckily that's what I've done.
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John prine is a poet, his songs drip with loss and with trying and sometimes succeeding in finding that little space where you are feeling intensely, and it's almost making you cry, but you discover that you like it, you are OK. He can put this into other people's songs too, or probably discover it there. I have to meter my exposure though.

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Old 12-25-2010, 06:15 AM   #31
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It is worth it if you enjoy it.

Don't get discouraged if a restaurant changes their format. It could be temporary in this economy... they may need to trim expenses.

Look for another gig. It is part of the experience.


Speaking of Jazz... here is the man!




Of course.... you could switch of to this.... Da BLuz seems to have a resurgence that Jazz has not experienced. It appeals to both young and old...


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Just venting.
I'm truly sorry how your steady gig has shaped up. it's sad. But you're a very bright, talented, resourceful guy with lots of other rewarding activities in your life. You'll do the right thing for yourself, no need for any of us to help you decide...
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Just saw this guy at the local coffee house, singer & former drummer for Chuck Magione, kind of sums up the plight of many musicians, made me think of T AL & my son too:

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Just saw this guy at the local coffee house, singer & former drummer for Chuck Magione, kind of sums up the plight of many musicians, made me think of T AL & my son too:
Your link was missing the video on my machine. This one may work better:



Nice Post, BTW.
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