Is the grass greener elsewhere?

I regard the decision to move as being somewhat similar to the decision to go see a movie. What I mean by that is, if it sounds like fun, and if one is free to move and can afford it, then why not.

It just doesn't sound like fun to us right now. It did sound like fun before we retired, because it was a great daydream to put hundreds of miles between our location and the workplace. However, after being retired for 8 years without having to deal with work at all, the idea of staying here has become much more attractive.

And yes, most of these articles are full of baloney IMO. Different people like different locations.
 
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Indeed everyone is different in wants and needs. I think reason most people don't move is nearness to family, aversion to change and the unknown, just can't afford it and many other reasons. Just like many would like to retire but can't, as recent average household savings indicate.

Two things - Standard of Living and Quality of Life. You can have the highest standard of living in Mogadishu but will you be happy. Most would live/relocate to an area where they have both.
 
That was in reference to Utah, I believe; beautiful place, nice people. We don't live far from there.

I'm guessing it was a political reference since the poster lives in MA. Personally we moved here from Texas 6 years ago not knowing a single soul and have no regrets.

People are people everywhere.

Love the Ski'ing in Utah!!!
 
I've lived in 4-5 states depending on the length of stay.

When we moved to KC at 21 were were told to move to the KS side. We both hated it! Absolutely nothing in common with folks and well I didn't care for some aspects of life there. Moving 30 miles into Missouri made all the difference between the hating the area and enjoying most of it.

After 10 years of looking around the country we like this area enough to pull up stakes and start over again. Not for everyone but it's working for us. I was afraid of DW and 100"+ of snow, but it's preferred to tornado threats!
 
Spoken by someone who has always seemed to me to be one of the happiest people here!

Ha ha.......not so sure about that. I have my moments. I'm just one of those that doesn't require a lot to make me content/satisfied. I guess that qualifies as being happy. :)
 
Stats say that 80% of people are born, live and die in a hundred mile radius. Only 20% of us have wanderlust.

Is that right? Damn. I can't imagine living in one place my whole life. I have made big moves at least a dozen times in my life.

There's always something sad about leaving everything behind. There is also something exciting about starting over like that, with a clean slate. There is a sense of possibility and the thrill of the unknown and unexplored. It can provoke a sort of existential angst, too, because all the familiar anchors are gone.

As people get older, I suppose they get more anchored to their current location (family, friends, associates, kids) and also perhaps more conservative, less willing to risk new adventures. Generalizing here. I'd like to think I'm an exception, but I do notice that at 56, I'm less reluctant to pull up stakes and move, compared to when I was 20.
 
I can't help but think life retirement is much the same. I see it as an adventure.

+1. I'm pretty much [-]hoping[/-] counting on that it is like this. It's the thing about retirement I am most looking forward to.
 
As people get older, I suppose they get more anchored to their current location (family, friends, associates, kids) and also perhaps more conservative, less willing to risk new adventures. Generalizing here. I'd like to think I'm an exception, but I do notice that at 56, I'm less reluctant to pull up stakes and move, compared to when I was 20.

"anchored to their current location" and "less willing to risk new adventures" tends to suggest that people might be missing out on something...not that was your intent.

It could be that those who stay in place have already found what they want and need and are happy. The ones who wander do so because they're restless and still searching... :)
 
It could be that those who stay in place have already found what they want and need and are happy. The ones who wander do so because they're restless and still searching... :)

+1

We knew many years before retiring we wanted to stay in the area. The DW and I have lived in MS, KS, AL, FL, CA and five different cities in TX. That was more than enough "new adventures" to give us a feel for what best met our preferences.
 
We've probably been on the road about 20 percent of our retirement to mostly places new to us--that satisfies a lot of our adventurous needs without moving permanently from one residence to another. And that's just one point on the spectrum--plenty of people either don't feel a need for adventure or satisfied it long ago. Nothing wrong with that.
 
Living in a high COL area does not guarantee a better life. And there are many high COL areas where you can live at a much, much lower cost within 30-60 miles and enjoy all the benefits of the high COL area. Chicagoland is a perfect example, there are hundreds/thousands of others.
We expect to relocate from the Metro DC area in retirement, but will most likely stay within a 2-3 hour drive. While we'd like to make a move, we enjoy the region and can't see starting over completely.
 
"anchored to their current location" and "less willing to risk new adventures" tends to suggest that people might be missing out on something...not that was your intent.

It could be that those who stay in place have already found what they want and need and are happy. The ones who wander do so because they're restless and still searching... :)

True, good point. They are missing out on the adventure, but it could be that the "adventure" isn't as enticing to them as staying where they are and enjoying what they have, and it's not worth the hassle of moving. I get that.

In fact, I may be in that boat myself. Another thing that's happened as I've gotten older is that I've gotten more content with what I have (still working on this). As a result of that, I feel less of a desire to relocate.

Still, there's something exciting about the idea of breaking with the past and starting anew. You never know. I'm not sure I like the idea of being "settled down," even at my age.
 
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Once moved much of being happy is making the most of what your new location has to offer. Not dwelling on what you gave up.

Or, skip the "move" part and make the most of what your current location has to offer.

And don't dwell on what you imagine might or might not be better in a different location.

We all choose our own path.
 
In our case, we had developed a "dream" of an ideal retirement location long before we FIRE'd. At the back of our minds we were afraid the dream might be a nightmare so we visited often to see if we could find the hidden realities that could make us change our minds. We learned the good, the bad and the ugly ahead of the move. True, once we moved, some other realities encroached but that just proves that NO PLACE is perfect and (could be my tag-line) "Where ever you go, you are there." (IOW you take your preferences, prejudices, faults, thinking patterns, etc. with you whether to the most beautiful place on the Earth or the most desolate, forsaken place. Attitude is at least 75% of contentment in FIRE).

Full disclosure, we have kept a foot in our old stomping grounds so our connection to friends and family is very similar (if a bit restricted) to what we had before. In some ways, we've grown closer to the "old folks" because our time with them is limited.

I don't recommend such a move to others. It's all personal preference. I'm slightly surprised it worked for us since we were in our late 50's when we moved so far away. I guess more than every YMMV.
 
Others expressed a desire to move but felt trapped because of relatives living nearby. They will live their lives out with 40 miles of where they were born.

I have thought about this one a lot. I have had to deal with some guilt for moving away from my parents when it is obvious they won't be around much longer, but then I realize the following:

1 - My own parents were the only ones to move away from their families. Dad left Iowa for the Korean War, then went to college in Tennessee and seminary in Texas. Mom left North Carolina for college in Tennessee, met dad, married, moved with him to Texas. My brother and I were born here.

Every other year or so we would take vacation and go see relatives, usually just one side of the family, so either Iowa or North Carolina. Our aunts and uncles and grandparents occasionally visited Texas as well. But we were mostly separated from our extended families for our entire lives.

Unlike our parents, my brother and I have mostly stayed close. Only after a half a century are my wife and I moving away. We've given them a lot more time being close to us than they did their own parents, so it's hard to feel guilty about that.

2 - Even when we lived close, we mostly got together for birthdays and holidays. We didn't see each other every day or week. Most communication was by phone or email. Going forward only the in-person visit frequency will change. We also tested Facebook video chat. Seems to be the easiest technology that everyone understands.

3 - My brother is nearby for any sort of emergency, but we will be only a 2.5 hour flight away. Currently we live a 2.75 hour drive away. That doesn't seem like too much of a difference.

I can't help but think life retirement is much the same. I see it as an adventure.

So few will take a chance.. and I think it is a pity.
Anyone else relocate to a better life Care to chime in?

Although we are newly officially retired, we have spent a few years outside of our home area. It is most *definitely* an adventure! We love almost all the locals, and at least half the transplants. :) We also plan on yearly travel, probably 90-180 days at a time, depending on the budget. Less in the first couple of years, more later.

Several years ago I created a Google Earth map with icons for all the places I wanted to visit, with something I felt would be interesting to see, something that would be worth the effort vs. just reading about it or looking at pictures/videos. We have seen most of those places in the U.S., now it's time to work on the rest of the Western Hemisphere, then Europe, then :confused:
 
DH & I love Southern CA and don't want to sell our property here. However, we are considering an adventure whereby we would put all of our contents in storage, secure a long-term renter (1-2 year lease) for our oceanfront condo, and travel. We're thinking of a combination of shorter and longer term rentals for us in the USVI, New York, Greece, Italy, and So CA for visits. Has anyone else done something like this? Any advice?
 
I can't help but think life retirement is much the same. I see it as an adventure.

So few will take a chance.. and I think it is a pity.
Anyone else relocate to a better life Care to chime in?

I agree that retirement is an opportunity for a new adventure. Especially if you retire relatively early. The idea of spending the last 30 years of my life on the front porch or even worse, the couch in front of the TV, scares the heck out of me.

We moved 2,500 miles away, took up new hobbies (skiing and biking) and made loads of new friends. Actually we changed almost everything. Gotta keep moving or I might get bored. Obviously everyone is different though.
 
The key thing about any place is the social network you develop. In our evolving world, we try to add to our social circle every year. This compensates for changing interests as well as changing health.
 
I left northern Illinois in 1980 during a recession and wound up in Texas, been here 35 years now. I like the idea of full time RVing and now that I'm retired I think may give it a test run before fully committing. It had been a dream of mine to live on the water and now I've done it. I like where I live now but it's like an itch that I've scratched, plus I'm not a fan of Hurricanes. Oh look, here comes one now. Time to go me thinks.
 
I've lived in many areas. Some fit us better than others. I always find something I like and miss about each place (as well as dislike too!)
 
The grass is greener elsewhere, IMO. Like a rural place with a big workshop. I just can't convince DW of that however. She has to be within an hour of major shopping.
 
Have lived in various places in the country and world and have managed to be pretty happy in all of them. And sometimes unhappy in all of them I would venture. For me the biggest benefits of living somewhere else are meeting and getting to know the people and their views and seeing new lands. As much as I have immensely enjoyed this, there is a certain comfort in those places where I grew up and in many ways it is hard to name a place that it would have been better to live in. I definitely feel like I was a big winner in 'the lottery of the ovary'. I suppose the compromise that we have found is to have a home base that is in our original province but visit other places for extended periods.
 
Didn't someone once say "you can't take a vacation from yourself"?
 
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