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Old 04-29-2015, 02:38 PM   #21
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Another wake-up call for those who believe they'll be riding jet skis in Cancun at 85 (maybe, maybe not). I was shocked when George Harrison died at 58. Pavarotti died at just 71, and Leonard Nimoy at 83. For those intent on building PF's designed to last to age 100 based on "medical advances", there is such a thing as over engineering.
Well said! Many examples of that. Most people past 85 or so are just as happy wherever they are. New gadgets, travel, etc. has little impact on them. Have been trying all day to motivate 79 year old MIL to sit outside in the sun for a few minutes. The couch is apparently more comfortable.
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Old 04-29-2015, 02:49 PM   #22
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To give Kramer the benefit of the doubt, even though Joni Mitchell is a legend in folk and pop music, perhaps he doesn't really follow folk and pop.


On the other hand, it is nice, as some generation Y folks are saying, how nice it is that Kanye West is helping this guy named Paul McCartney, promoting his career by recording a duet with him
I'm sure there are plenty of reasons to have never heard of her, but I would assume age to be the most likely.

I remember talking to younger (21-ish) coworker in the mid-80s, and somehow Paul McCartney's name came up. She said "Oh yeah, that guy who used to be in Wings".
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I'm sure there are plenty of reasons to have never heard of her, but I would assume age to be the most likely.
Agreed, but it's not always the case. I used to work in a record store in Hollywood and remember the day a middle-aged gentleman came up to me and asked if we had anything by "Bob Die-lan". That's how he pronounced it. I wondered how any Westerner his age could have gone his while life without once having heard someone say the name Bob Dylan.
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You brought back a memory, but I was very young. . .maybe still in elementary school or early highschool? I asked a friend whether she had every heard of "Bobby Die-lan" and was immediately hooted off the playground for my ignorance. I remember nearly dying of teenage shame.

As to Joni Mitchell she was HUGE in the 70s when I was a student. Hard to think that anyone who was conscious during that period (some weren't, of course. . .) didn't know the name.
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Before we were married Ms G and I went to see Joni at the Merriweather Post Pavillion in Columbia MD. Ms G is a big fan of Joni, of course we didn't go together she went with her GF's, and I went with mine. We still don't talk about that or the day we ran into each other at the Preakness with other people.
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Marita - reminds me of my first day at high school. I walked past a group of long-haired older rocker-type kids. They called out to me, an obvious new kid. One of them asked what kind of music I was into. Wanting to hedge my bets, in an attempt to maximize my chances of being approved of, I answered, "Oh, you know - all types." "We're into Deep Purple" he said. I didn't know who Deep Purple were, and I thought he had said Steve Purple, so I replied, "Yeah he's good. I like him."

As you can imagine, any hopes I had of being accepted by the "cool" kids were immediately dashed!
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I don't live a long way from Joni's home town. While they wish her the best, she won't be getting the 'key to the city' when/if she returns. Too many nasty comments about the place.
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"We're into Deep Purple" he said. I didn't know who Deep Purple were, and I thought he had said Steve Purple, so I replied, "Yeah he's good. I like him."
Oh by the way, which one is Pink?
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Oh by the way, which one is Pink?
Perfect! (Great album, too.)
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Marita - reminds me of my first day at high school. I walked past a group of long-haired older rocker-type kids. They called out to me, an obvious new kid. One of them asked what kind of music I was into. Wanting to hedge my bets, in an attempt to maximize my chances of being approved of, I answered, "Oh, you know - all types." "We're into Deep Purple" he said. I didn't know who Deep Purple were, and I thought he had said Steve Purple, so I replied, "Yeah he's good. I like him."

As you can imagine, any hopes I had of being accepted by the "cool" kids were immediately dashed!
"Oh by the way, which one's pink?"
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Oops, guess I should have read all the posts HAHAHA. Crazy this post was nearly identical to scrinch. I feel a little teeny bit like the kid on the playground
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But the killer Joni performance, for me, is the one below. (An interesting comparison to the version linked by easysurfer above.) It exudes the message that she's been through a lot, and is a survivor. Hope she pulls through.


I have to agree this is my favorite rendition of "Both Sides now ".
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Just curious, but how old are you? She was a huge presence in the late 60s/70s, along with James Taylor, CSN&Y, Dylan, etc. I'm wondering if most people in Gen X and later ever heard of her.
I am 49 years old. So I turned 18 in late 1983. I have heard of all the other groups mentioned in this thread, and am big fans of some (James Taylor, Paul McCartney).
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I am 49 years old. So I turned 18 in late 1983. I have heard of all the other groups mentioned in this thread, and am big fans of some (James Taylor, Paul McCartney).
Thanks for posting the details. I was curious, too, but doesn't seem that unusual now that I think about it.
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I am 49 years old. So I turned 18 in late 1983. I have heard of all the other groups mentioned in this thread, and am big fans of some (James Taylor, Paul McCartney).
I think the fact that her remakes were done by more current singers probably contributed to your missing her completely. You probably would have missed the Beatles had they not been so famous.

(I have heard of Jerry Vale only because my Mom loved him.)
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Here's another Joni Mitchell song that plays in my head quite a bit.

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A buddy of mine just sent me a list of Rolling Stones 50 Greatest Live Albums, and Joni's Miles of Aisles comes in at no. 39. It was a great album, just as she was moving into her jazz phase, and just as I was starting college. It was quite popular in my dorm room.

On a side note, I was at the concert (one of the two days) of the no. 49 album, Little Feat's Waiting for Columbus. My brush with fame.
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