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The story is about the crash of two nuke submarines: British and French nuclear submarines crash | The Sun |News
Because he needs his daily what-are-the-royals-doing-today fix?OAG,
Why do you read the Sun?
Why do you read the Sun?
Why do you read the Sun?
Sounds like as good a reason as any for the market to drop another 300 today.
NO! Because you don't READ the Sun:
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OAG,
Why do you read the Sun?
Why do you read the Sun?
Why do you read the Sun?
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To others - the question is part of a hint to the answer.
NO! Because you don't READ the Sun:
Ironically those pages 3 boosted the morale of quite a few U.S. Navy sailors during many 1980s boomer patrols out of Holy Loch. Squadron 14 submarines were sort of a mobile underwater Sun archive stretching back years. Just in case.The Sun says - you want to see topless women; here they are; now for the rest of the news.
Are we talking about the Sun or about their page 3 models?I always wondered why they don't have glass in the front so they can see where their going.
These are ballistic missile subs, so they generally don't use their active sonar (ping, ping) when on patrol--that would let the bad guys find them easily. Kinda like shining a bright flashlight in a neighborhood of snipers. They just find a chunk of water and loaf about as quietly as possible. They passively listen for other "boomers" and attack subs, but this goes to show that the boomers are apparently darn hard to hear.you would really think that they'd have some sort of sonar or something turned on at all times. isnt someone here a navy sub guy? fill us in...
I was surprised that the satellites collided (there's a vast amount of space up there), and I'm surprised that the subs collided (a lot of space down there).
A whole bunch of submariners are going to be looking for new jobs this month.
you would really think that they'd have some sort of sonar or something turned on at all times. isnt someone here a navy sub guy? fill us in...
I'll have to check scuttlebutt on my favorite submarine blogs & boards. I suspect one (or possibly both) of the submarines was out of their assigned waters-- either through nav error, equipment problems, or plain ol' stupidity. (Not necessarily in that order.) It gets messier if the incident occurred within territorial waters or "disputed" waters, but hopefully these NATO allies are above that petty bickering.These are ballistic missile subs, so they generally don't use their active sonar (ping, ping) when on patrol--that would let the bad guys find them easily. Kinda like shining a bright flashlight in a neighborhood of snipers.
Bummer. The NATO countries generally share info about who's where & when.....
The editor of Jane's Fighting Ships was on NPR.
He said that the French are not part of NATO, so they did not have the info about the underwater positioning of the British sub.
NATO sources told TIME that France is not alone in withholding information about nuclear-armed submarines — the Brits and Americans keep the location of their strategic deterrent secret too. In a prepared statement, a NATO spokesman said: "France uses the same procedures with regard to its submarine fleet as all other allies."
It's always been messy. They've been participating in NATO exercises for years, but they have a reputation of attending all the planning conferences and then canceling at the last minute. That's bad enough, but then they show up at the post-exercise debrief.The editor of Jane's Fighting Ships was on NPR.
He said that the French are not part of NATO, so they did not have the info about the underwater positioning of the British sub.