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Old 09-07-2012, 09:44 AM   #61
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Thanks 2 U, I removed my netbook from my carry-on and I'm going with just my (and DW's) smartphone (we leave tonight, for Scotland).
Enjoy the trip! (With a little less baggage)
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Old 09-07-2012, 10:37 AM   #62
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Texas Proud, I think this is a splendid outcome. It's really important for teenagers to win some arguments with their parents and he stuck with this one. A great lesson for his adult life that if he really wants something, to go after it until he gets it (think of how many people aren't able to argue with authority). It would have been really easy for you to have put your foot down and not let him win this one but you listened to him and respected his point of view (without agreeing with it, also good for him to see), and he can feel proud that he was able to convince you, however unwillingly, to come around.

It's a pretty minor item in the scheme of things, and he sounds like a really great teenager.
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Old 09-07-2012, 05:16 PM   #63
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I vote to let him do what he wants with his own money. One of the things I learned to do from my Dad, in a negative lesson, was how to give advice. When I would ask my father for advice he would give me advice, which, in looking back, was good advice and right in every single case, but then he'd get angry and hold it against me if I chose not to follow it to the letter. I have since taken the tact of giving advice and then letting go of it.

BTW. some of the most long-lived lessons I ever learned about money were learned during my teens. I still have some of the same feelings about possessions and stuff and cash money that I acquired back then. Most of them are very emotional and I have decided I just can't change that part of me.

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Old 09-07-2012, 06:05 PM   #64
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Part 2 of this lesson will occur when he drops his phone in the toilet.

We never paid for our daughter's iphone nor her data plan. Nor her second iphone, nor her 3rd iphone, ....

And at age 15, this kid should be paying for all things themselves. You can give an allowance, but what he does with it: clothes, shoes, haircuts, McD's, etc are learning experiences.
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Part 2 of this lesson will occur when he drops his phone in the toilet.

We never paid for our daughter's iphone nor her data plan. Nor her second iphone, nor her 3rd iphone, ....

And at age 15, this kid should be paying for all things themselves. You can give an allowance, but what he does with it: clothes, shoes, haircuts, McD's, etc are learning experiences.
Why did you have to bring that up? That happened to me about 10 years ago and scarred me for life, as it was a public toilet I had to fish it out of. Had like 4 opportunities to catch it while it dropped and bounced around the rim. Couldn't come up with the big catch at the key moment.
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Enjoy the trip! (With a little less baggage)
Just a follow up.

We took my DW's KindleFire along (bigger screen than a smart phone) and we used our phones as hotspots.

Total data usage during the ten days was 30 minutes. It cost me $200 in data roaming charges. While I was aware of the possible high cost (we turned our data off at the airport, in Newark before we boarded), I was amazed at what the cost really is while out of the country.

Heck, our phone calls to home (every day) only added up to $30 (roaming charges).

OTOH, the idea of any communications access from any remote area simply is amazing - speaking as one who served in Nam, and didn't have any direct communications for a year (that's when letters were still in vogue )...

Oh yes, the trip was great. While we've been there before, every "reoccurance" is a treat, since something is new. In this case, the heather was in full bloom in the highlands.

I also was fitted for my kilt. Upon wearing it for the first time, the tailor had his three daughters view it (to ensure that it met the "requirements"). One lass (upon checking the stitching and using a mirror to check the undergarment), uttered the comment that she was viewing the "eighth wonder of the world" (drum roll, please ).
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Just a follow up.

We took my DW's KindleFire along (bigger screen than a smart phone) and we used our phones as hotspots.

Total data usage during the ten days was 30 minutes. It cost me $200 in data roaming charges. While I was aware of the possible high cost (we turned our data off at the airport, in Newark before we boarded), I was amazed at what the cost really is while out of the country.
Sounds like a great trip.

On the data plan, last year when we went to England and still had ATT we were able before we left to be put on an international data plan while we were there. It gave us a small amount of data usage and reduced the amount of overage. We used only a little bit of data, mostly to send some emails and to post a few things on facebook. In the hotel we had Wifi so didn't have a cost for that.
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I also was fitted for my kilt. Upon wearing it for the first time, the tailor had his three daughters view it (to ensure that it met the "requirements"). One lass (upon checking the stitching and using a mirror to check the undergarment), uttered the comment that she was viewing the "eighth wonder of the world" (drum roll, please ).
Undergarments are worn under a kilt?
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Ask him to wait a month and see if he still wants it. I would then agree to it.
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Undergarments are worn under a kilt?
Only by Scots. Otherwise they'd need a longer kilt.
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I keep my blaster under my Kilt.
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