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Old 10-28-2006, 08:53 AM   #1
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As an "Other Topic", in the forum's spirit of "... anything goes, outside of rude, obscene, or other stuff ...".

This story has been wasting our time for how long? Now we find Nifong has fostered this, while damaging the reputations of so many, based on ...? I understand he wanted to be reelected, but would have thought he'd at least create the appearance of an honest investigation and prosecution. Amazing.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/10/27/D8L15CT.html
Prosecutor Yet to Interview Rape Accuser
Oct 27 2:56 PM US/Eastern

By AARON BEARD
Associated Press Writer

DURHAM, N.C.

The district attorney prosecuting three Duke lacrosse players accused of raping a woman at a team party said during a court hearing Friday that he still hasn't interviewed the accuser about the facts of the case.
"I've had conversations with (the accuser) about how she's doing. I've had conversations with (the accuser) about her seeing her kids," Mike Nifong said. "I haven't talked with her about the facts of that night. ... We're not at that stage yet."

Nifong made the statement in response to a defense request for any statements the woman has made about the case.

"I understand the answer may not be the answer they want but it's the true answer. That's all I can give them," the prosecutor said after the hourlong hearing.

Defense lawyers said outside court that they found Nifong's statement surprising.

"One of the most interesting things to me of course is Mr. Nifong did admit that he in fact has basically never talked to this woman and has absolutely no idea what her story is, and yet he has chosen to continue to go forward with this case," defense lawyer Joseph Cheshire said.

Nifong said none of his assistants have discussed the case with the woman either and only have spoken with her to monitor her well-being. They have left the investigation of the case to police, he said.

Attorneys for indicted player Dave Evans wrote in a letter to Nifong earlier this month that they believed he had talked with the accuser based on a court motion in which Nifong stated the woman told him she had not taken the drug Ecstasy on the night of the March 13 team party for which she was hired to perform as a stripper.

In response to a claim by a lawyer for an unindicted player, Nifong said he called the accuser to ask her whether she had used the drug.

"She said, 'I've never taken Ecstasy,'" Nifong said. "That was the extent of the conversation because that's all I had to know."

Nifong said he met with the accuser and an investigator on April 11, but didn't discuss details of the case because the woman was "too traumatized." Nifong said the woman didn't make eye contact with him and often seemed on the verge of crying. Their discussion centered around how the case would develop, he said.

"She probably did not speak 15 words during the meeting," Nifong said.

Evans, 23, of Bethesda, Md., was charged in May with rape, kidnapping and sexual offense. A month earlier, a grand jury indicted players Reade Seligmann, 20, of Essex Fells, N.J., and Collin Finnerty, 20, of Garden City, N.Y., on the same charges. The accuser, a student at nearby North Carolina Central University, told police she was raped in a bathroom by three men at the off-campus party.

The players' lawyers have strongly proclaimed their innocence.


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Re: Wow - the Duke "Rape" Prosecutor is Even More Clueless than We Realized
Old 10-28-2006, 11:28 AM   #2
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Nifong needs to get past this election. If he doesn't win, the whole case is in jeopardy. So, for right now, the investigation needs to be conducted to ensure political victory. After that, he would be free to conduct a more legitimate investigation.
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After he gets re-elected he might drop the case...

But, it has gone on so long... I don't think he can see what is really there... so it will go to trial, they will be found not guilty and a lot of resources are wasted.... and they never get cleared in the public...

This is the kind of case where people hate prosecutors.... and think.. that could be me or someone I know...
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Again he seems to have an agenda and quite frankly should NOT be re elected.

People who vote or DO NOT VOTE get what they deserve, weak bad politicians, Can you imagine what it would be like to see 90+% of the electorate VOTE??
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Nifong is running for re-election more or less unopposed. Durham has lots of problems, so Durham DA is not a hotly sought-after job.

The real waste of resources is billed to the parents of the accused kids, whose defense has and will cost their families a lot of money. I know something about the defense lawyers, and believe me their services are not cheap.

The real weasels and cowards are the administrators of Duke University, who couldn't do enough to distance themselves from their accused students when the students needed their support the most. So much for in loco parentis, I guess. Shameful . . . Shame on Duke. Boo, hiss, Duke.
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Nifong is running for re-election more or less unopposed. Durham has lots of problems, so Durham DA is not a hotly sought-after job.

The real waste of resources is billed to the parents of the accused kids, whose defense has and will cost their families a lot of money. I know something about the defense lawyers, and believe me their services are not cheap.

The real weasels and cowards are the administrators of Duke University, who couldn't do enough to distance themselves from their accused students when the students needed their support the most. So much for in loco parentis, I guess. Shameful . . . Shame on Duke. Boo, hiss, Duke.
As I watched the 60 minutes piece last week I gotta say, it smells real bad.

As I tell my student atheletes stay away from the hookers and dancers!!

Only see them in bars if you choose, but to bring in a couple of escort services gals to a party is ASKING for trouble!!
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These guys are full of ****.....their parents should have taught them better.....and they shouldn’t have even been in the position to have allegations raised against them....no sympathy for these morons..
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Which one do you know, Maddy? Or do you just know everything in general?
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Again he seems to have an agenda and quite frankly should NOT be re elected.

People who vote or DO NOT VOTE get what they deserve, weak bad politicians, Can you imagine what it would be like to see 90+% of the electorate VOTE??
I can imagine it. You would still get "weak bad politicians". I will go further.
If 90+ % voted the results would be even worse.

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Maddy ... you sound a bit like NOW, when their leader stated years ago that even a false rape charge was good because it would make men more cognizant of the issue. Shame on you.
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I can imagine it. You would still get "weak bad politicians". I will go further.
If 90+ % voted the results would be even worse.

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Funny but you are right on that point, americans are so stupid!!
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Maddy ... you sound a bit like NOW, when their leader stated years ago that even a false rape charge was good because it would make men more cognizant of the issue. Shame on you.
Yeah, it's like the dem/libs saying "Oh, it's the seriousness of the charges".
Meaningless crap. Anyone can make an accusation, and anyone
can file a suit/assert lawbreaking activity. But, that is the way our
system works these days.

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Yeah, but Americans look pretty smart compared to the citizens of many other countries ...
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Nifong has engaged in prosecutoreal misconduct. He disgusts me. I hope he is charged, tried, found guilty and put in prison. He has ruined the reputations of these young men, all for his own political gain.
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These guys are full of ****.....their parents should have taught them better.....and they shouldn’t have even been in the position to have allegations raised against them....no sympathy for these morons..
Were you ever in college? Were you ever single? Were you ever with one or more women without 10 or more witnesses?

You have to be living in another planet. Some prosecuter needing "points" could have nailed you just as badly as these boys.

They may be guilty. They may be innocent. If they are rapists, I hope they burn in hell. Unfortunately, the innocent until proven guilty seems to have disappeared for these kids.
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Nifong has engaged in prosecutoreal misconduct. He disgusts me. I hope he is charged, tried, found guilty and put in prison. He has ruined the reputations of these young men, all for his own political gain.
That is a good point, however who is gonna charge him??

I keep waiting and still nothing.
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That is a good point, however who is gonna charge him??

I keep waiting and still nothing.
the state has an obligation to investigate his behaviour in this case.
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I actually sent an email to the Governor of NC. Usually a waste of time, but perhaps if enough folks contact their offices, eventually NC leadership may decide enough is enough. This guy is making all prosecutors look bad.
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