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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
I doubt it. Adjustments will be made (as they were over the years for me/DW).as SS will be exhausted.....
I doubt it. Adjustments will be made (as they were over the years for me/DW).as SS will be exhausted.....
I also signed up today. It won't start for a while. I am not clear whether I will get my first payment the month after my birthday month, or if that month (birthday +1) is the first month for which I earn a benefit, and the actual payment will hit my account late in the following month. I may drop by the office and ask.
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Nothing changed my mind, I am almost 70.Weren't you going to wait until 70 and isn't that about 4 years away? What changed your mind regarding when to start the draw?
You "earn" your SS benefit during a full month and receive your "check" the following.I also signed up today. It won't start for a while. I am not clear whether I will get my first payment the month after my birthday month, or if that month (birthday +1) is the first month for which I earn a benefit, and the actual payment will hit my account late in the following month. I may drop by the office and ask.
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Thanks. I should get a check toward the end of June. At least when I was getting them before, they came on 4th Wednesday, and from your explanation it seems that is what I should expect once more.You "earn" your SS benefit during a full month and receive your "check" the following.
For instance, my birthday is January 3rd. I will not have a full month of "earnings" until February is completed.
I will receive my "check" in the second week of March (checks are delivered/deposited on the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th Wednesday of the month, depending on your birthdate), per:
2011 Schedule of Social Security Benefit Payments
Birthdate 01-10: 2nd Wednesday
Birthdate 11-20: 3rd Wednesday
Birthdate 21-31: 4th Wednesday
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how did your neighbor's wife & son get benefits? never heard of anything like this.
Sorry, I'm not that smart ...One other question if you can help again...
Yes, but FIRE and collecting SS can be mutually exclusive events, or in the case of us younger folks, WILL be mutually exclusive events........as SS will be exhausted by those 10,000 boomers a day turning 65 this year.........
One other question if you can help again- say my check comes in June, for benefits "earned" in May. I will thus get 7 checks in 2011. But I will have had 8 months of accruals- will my 1099 show income from the 7 months that I received, or the 8 months that I accrued?
It sounds as though no matter when you apply for SS in January (could wait until Jan. 31), your first check will be for the full month of Feb. and received in March. Is this right?You "earn" your SS benefit during a full month and receive your "check" the following.
For instance, my birthday is January 3rd. When I claim (at age 70) I will not have a full month of "earnings" until February is completed.
I will receive my "check" in the second week of March (checks are delivered/deposited on the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th Wednesday of the month, depending on your birthdate), per:
2011 Schedule of Social Security Benefit Payments
Birthdate 01-10: 2nd Wednesday
Birthdate 11-20: 3rd Wednesday
Birthdate 21-31: 4th Wednesday
I thought that was the case but it appears Jake46 applied in August and received his first check in September...It sounds as though no matter when you apply for SS in January (could wait until Jan. 31), your first check will be for the full month of Feb. and received in March. Is this right?
I applied online - I'll call them after a few days and see what they say. They said wait 5 days for it to get into the system.I thought that was the case but it appears Jake46 applied in August and received his first check in September...
Interesting tidbit here is that attached to the recent Health Insurance Bill is a feature that removes indexing of that $85,000 first step and the higher steps also that are used to increase one's Medicare premium. This will make a big difference over time in how much we are forced to pay for Medicare.
Normally, SS is applied for three months before your SS start date (to allow for paperwork and gathering whatever records are required - such as a DD214 for older folks that served in the military). If I would apply in January, the clock would not start for eligibility for three months and would receive my first deposit around May-June.It sounds as though no matter when you apply for SS in January (could wait until Jan. 31), your first check will be for the full month of Feb. and received in March. Is this right?
In my case, I'll be paying my Part B (quarterly) for four years until I actually claim my own SS benefit at age 70.
Yes; mine will jump from $96.40 to $115, because I paid back and refiled-therefor I was not receiving an SS check at year end 2010, so the "hold harmless" provision no longer applies to me.This has had some bizarre effects, as well. Medicare Part B premiums have been frozen for the past two years for those on SS (who didn't trigger the means-testing increases). So today you have 67 year-olds (or older) paying $96.40 per month for Medicare Part B if they have been on SS for two years, and $115 per month if they have not.
Yes; mine will jump from $96.40 to $115, because I paid back and refiled-therefor I was not receiving an SS check at year end 2010, so the "hold harmless" provision no longer applies to me.
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Your profile says you're retiring in 2012...
Or 40 year old disabled folks (like my son, on SSD).So today you have 67 year-olds (or older) paying $96.40 per month for Medicare Part B if they have been on SS for two years, and $115 per month if they have not.
Thinker,
I applied for SS yesterday. I turn 62 next month. Several months ago I ran an aftertax, discounted cashflow analysis that indicated I was better off taking it at 62 rather than waiting until 70. I used a conservative aftertax portfolio rate as the discount rate in the npv function when evaluating and comparing the two cashflow streams. In doing so, the breakeven point was pushed to age 88 from about 78. Both of my parents died at age 84. This was a very decisive analysis for me, since I had been in the previous "wait til 70" school of thought. A couple of days ago, I read another thread on this forum which performed a somewhat similar calculation confirming that my analysis was on track. It also helped that before I retired, I worked in a finance dept and evaluated capital project cashflows, so I had some experience at it.
I sometime wonder if the planners just always assume folks will have a spouse to consider in the calculations.I had planned to wait, too. I didn't bother to do a complex calculation (too much like a job? maybe). Interesting that when you calculated the growth on the money it made the breakeven point much later.
I am comfortable with what I have chosen. And to hear that you don't break even until 88.... hope I live that long. My dad just turned 90, mom died at 85. But my own health history isn't good. I really needed to retire, partly for health/stress reasons.
I have an MBA, worked in finance in IT... just would have to do to much work (w*rk...) to do the calculations you did... Lazy, too, these days!
Thanks a lot for sharing the information. It pretty much throws out the theory of wait, wait, wait... that the financial planners keep throwing out. Anyhow I'm making more than 8% on my money these days (of course I can't count on it forever... etc.) so why settle. That occurred to me too.
This is actually an involved problem with critical assumptions, though the procedure is straightforward once you have decided what you are trying to find out. If it weren't involved, opinion wouldn't rocket back and forth every time someone new comes along with a black box and tells us what to do. The explanation for this can only be that most of us do not understand what are the relevant factors in our individual cases, or how to process them, for this important decision.Factoring in the growth pushes the breakeven out to about 85-87 range.