My relaxing hobby -- in pursuit of the $10 tomato

What the heck do you do about birds. I've almost given up growing any beefsteaks because in invariably when I say, "ah that tomato is just about ready to picked," the next day 1/2 of the tomato is gone.:mad: While the birds look well feed. You'd think with 4 cats, two of which are quite good hunters, it wouldn't be such a problem.
Ok this will sound stupid but how do you keep the netting from blowing off in the wind? I.e. how to you anchor the net so it does keeps the birds in and doesn't get tangled up with the tomato plants.
I feel your pain-- my father-in-law was on a tomato kick while they were living here. Somehow instead of growing his own darn tomatoes in his yard I was expected to grow them in ours. We had over a dozen plants and enough yield to feed the National Guard, but at times our backyard looked like scenes from "The Birds".

We kept the plants off the ground with Wal-Mart's 99-cent metal frames that you stick in the ground and drape the plants over. We looped a few feet of fishing line a couple of times through CDs (to keep them from sliding around) and tied the ends between the frames.

The birds can't see the fishing line very well so they keep running into it, and they don't like the way the CDs move & glitter in the sunshine. They get discouraged and move on to other food sources.

We also began picking the bigger tomatoes as soon as they started turning red and ripening them indoors. Of course I was picking cherry tomatoes several times a day!

We discouraged the occasional critter with Volck oil spray and fertilized with Miracl-Gro, although the fertilizer was probably overkill. My FIL kept complaining that the weather wasn't hot enough (over 90 degrees) to get a really good crop. If that's really the case then I'd hate to be in charge of a successful tomato garden!
 
Nords, HFWR thanks for the suggestions. I guess I'll stop by Walmart or HOme Depot and get some more frames and ad some CDs, that seems like a a relatively easy idea.
 
Marquette, I am aware of CSA's but your idea to volunteer with one is interesting. I wish I had the energy and physical ability to take care of my own garden plus volunteer at a CSA.

Update: my early girl plant has tiny green tomatoes. My San Marzano has no flowers or fruits! Rats. I need to feed that one something else.

NW Bound --lucky you to be able to grow eggplant! I think they are a beautiful vegetable. Maybe I'll try those next year.
 
I'm growing my vegetables in containers this year. It makes everything sooo much easier. No weeding and just a little watering once a day. I use a light application of fertilizer in water once a week.

I am using self-watering containers. The results are great. My in-the-ground gardens were never this great. We are going to have approximately ten zillion tomatoes ripening all at once. I also have eggplants with cute babies, peppers, and lots of onions. I also have many pots of herbs.

I also want to plant parsnips, although I am going to wait until next spring. I love them but the hub hates them. More for me.
 
I'm growing my vegetables in containers this year. It makes everything sooo much easier. No weeding and just a little watering once a day. I use a light application of fertilizer in water once a week.

I am using self-watering containers. The results are great.
I water my containers every 2 to 3 days (if there's no rain) until the water runs out the drain holes. I also use Soil Moist crystals, which helps immensely.

I tried one of those self-watering containers this year, and I'll definitely be picking up some more of them! The one I have is about 36"L x 12"W x 14"D. They recommend something like 2 or 3 pepper plants as the most you should put in it. I have 10 pepper plants in it, and they are all totally loaded with peppers, and the plants are huge & healthy!!! Anaheim Hots & Hungarian Hots!
I also want to plant parsnips, although I am going to wait until next spring. I love them but the hub hates them. More for me.
My container parsnips are coming along just super. I'm glad because I've never tried them in containers before.
 
You can grow ANYTHING in containers! Flowers, ornamental grasses, herbs, veggies, shrubs, trees.....anything! I know because I grow ALL of those in containers.....106 containers this years.....every size, shape, material, color.....even an old sink!
HEY!! No pic of the old sink? Seriously though, it looks great. Been thinking of adding a few containers to our stuff. And such a nice eclectic collection too.

I keep watering and waiting and generally give up on the weeding....I finally gave up because of the imbalance of watering/waiting/anticipation compared to the reward.....In my town we pay for water that we use, based on a water meter. Then we also pay a sewer charge, almost double the amount for incoming water. If I'm watering my garden for 3 months, of course I'm paying for water I use. But I'm also paying almost double that for water that's going in the ground and not being treated on the return trip.....I never measured how much water my garden used or how much I spent on the few plants. Per tomato, it may have been economical. I just felt that it wasn't worth the effort and anticipation/disappointment.
Sue, do you have a lawn that requires mowing? One of the things I have found that REALLY cuts down on watering requirements is to use my grass clippings as a mulch. Double benefits as it piles up it preserves ground moisture, and the bottom layer starts to rot and provides fertilizer.

I'm not sure I follow how you are paying more for the water that [i[doesn't[/i] get returned for treatment? Seems to me that would be cheaper, since you aren't paying for the sewer return.

Ok all of you advanced gardeners.....What the heck do you do about birds.
Aluminum pie pans on strings, strips of bed sheets torn about 12"-18" long, LOVE Nords cd idea, and a fake owl (just remember to move it from post to post every day or so.
 
I'm not sure I follow how you are paying more for the water that [i[doesn't[/i] get returned for treatment? Seems to me that would be cheaper, since you aren't paying for the sewer return.

I think it's like how they charge us here in town. They meter your water usage, and charge you a certain rate for that. Then they base your sewer rate on that amount, regardless of where the water goes when your done with it.....down the drain or into your yard/garden.
 
In AZ, there is a huge difference in water consumption in winter vs. summer, when people use a lot more to water lawn and to fill swimming pool. So, the sewer charge is based on water useage during the 3 winter months.
 
I think it's like how they charge us here in town. They meter your water usage, and charge you a certain rate for that. Then they base your sewer rate on that amount, regardless of where the water goes when your done with it.....down the drain or into your yard/garden.
In AZ, there is a huge difference in water consumption in winter vs. summer, when people use a lot more to water lawn and to fill swimming pool. So, the sewer charge is based on water useage during the 3 winter months.
Yup, unless you pay extra for a separate water meter to "prove" that the water is going to irrigation instead of to sewage.

I decided it was cheaper/easier to cut way back on the watering. Should be there in another 3-5 years.
 
Has anyone read the all new square foot gardening book? My dad swears by it, and by looking at his garden, I think he is onto something!

I have a friend who planted a dozen upside down tomato plants this spring, I need to go check out his operation, i'll report back. :)
 
We have a very small vegetable garden (about 128 sq. ft., mostly all-day filtered sun with only 2 hours of bright sun per day). This year it has yielded a fair amount of veggies, far exceeding my expectations.

YTD, this is what we harvested:
21 small beets, 6 cucumbers (those are actually planted in containers), almost 1 lb. of green beans (just started harvesting those last week), 18 servings of lettuce, 12 onions, 46 potatoes, 85 radishes, 21 strawberries (most were eaten by some critters despite the net), 6 bell peppers, 2 lbs. of swiss chard, 32 tomatoes and 1 zucchini, plus plenty of basil, parsley and cilantro.

I use a granulated fertilizer called "Osmocote flowers and vegetables".

Picture of one of our early June harvests:
 
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FIREdreamer, nice!
I especially like the beet.

Our tomatoes could be doing better. After good growth last month, they have started to exhibit shrinking foliage (yes, literally re-dimensioned) and yellowing/dried-out lower leaves on some plants (tho' I have watered them all equally). Yield appears modest at best now; the newer flowers seem less apt to bear fruit. It has definitely been 90° or so these last couple of weeks. Older fruits seem on a good track, but I guess I was hoping for more abundance.
 
Firedreamer, that's an amazing harvest for a filtered light location! Way to go!

We're in the Willamette Valley(Or.), and my peppers and tomatoes have fruit, but they are not ready yet (maybe a couple of weeks out from first harvest.) We've been picking lettuce since the end of May. I chopped up my first Ichiban and Fairy Tale eggplant minis and put them in a stirfry on Friday. I'm growing potatoes in a garbage can (a fun enterprise) but I haven't harvested any yet (I pulled out one the size of a marble the other day--so I'm letting them get bigger). Onions I have a-plenty, and I've been pinching herbs for cooking for some time.

We have a rotisserie attachment for our kettle barbeque and we like to roast whole chickens and turkeys with it. I stuff rosemary and sage in the cavities and under the skin on the breast, then rub the skin with olive oil, garlic and margarita salt (it's what I have on hand ... ). It makes the most savory chicken or turkey imaginable.

Lord, I love summer. My next challenge is to have vegetables in the containers througout fall and winter. I know I can grow lettuce, carrots and brussels sprouts outdoors, and I am going to bring a plant rack indoors and try to grow mini tomatoes, eggplants and herbs indoors in a sunny window with a compact flourescent light for backup. We'll see how it goes.
 
LRS, after reading about it in Cooks' Illustrated, I am a fan of brining. For a chicken, just a few hours in a sea-salty bath (you can add bay and garlic or whatever other herb for more flavor) is all it takes to make it a lot juicier. It's like a natural, home-grown "Butterball"-esque treatment.
 
Mmmmm ... salt. I love it on everything. I found a recipe for brined pork roast that I am going to try this week.

High blood pressure? Me? Not yet ...
 
I've been enjoying crookneck squash from my plants grown from seed! I made stuffed squash this evening for my son and daughter in law. It was a big hit!

Here's the recipe

Two crookneck squashes
stuffing mix
onions
butter
grated parmesan

Cut squashes in half. Microwave squashes 10 minutes. Scoop out seeds. Saute onions in butter. Mix in stuffing, add water. Mix in some squash.
Stuff squashes and bake 350 degrees for 30 minutes in pan covered with foil.
Sprinkle grated parmesan on top. Yum!

I also had a bouquet of zinnias from the garden too. :D:D It's all worth it!
 
Mmmmm ... salt. I love it on everything. I found a recipe for brined pork roast that I am going to try this week.

High blood pressure? Me? Not yet ...

One of the best table salt I've ever used, Fleur de sel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleur_de_sel

It's light, crunchy, and a little bit goes a very long way. A little fleur de sel on top of a fresh tomato slice with some basil and you're good to go.
 
I've harvested about 1 mop bucket full of cherry tomatoes off of my 4 plants in the last week. The Early Girls are really starting to take off now....picked 9 more yesterday and will be able to pick another dozen or so in the next day or two (4 plants)........we've had BLT's twice so far, with many more to come!!!

Plus I've gotten 4 zucchinis off of 2 of my 5 plants.....and have used a couple for breaded, pan fried slices......Yum! Some zukes will be grated up and frozen for use in zucchini bread throughout the Fall & Winter months.

The sweet banana peppers have been delicious in our salads every day for almost a month now....and they show no signs of letting up. All the rest of the pepper varieties are loaded down and getting bigger every day, too! We're going to start canning, and freezing some peppers this week! :D
 
FIREdreamer, nice!
I especially like the beet.

Firedreamer, that's an amazing harvest for a filtered light location! Way to go!

Thank you both. We are very happy with our results so far. And it is getting even more exciting. After some much needed rain, a second zucchini is getting ready to bloom, we have 10 cucumbers maturing (including a monster), we can't harvest the green beans fast enough, the bell peppers are very prolific this year (we got only 1 last year) and the cherry tomatoes have started to ripen. Our tomato plants are not looking very good this year, their leaves started turning yellow early in the season after they were infested by white flies. One of them died but we saved the 2 others. Last year our 4 tomato plants yielded about 250 tomatoes. It looks like this year we'll be lucky to get 100 tomatoes.

The downside of our filtered light location seems to be that our veggies are a bit smaller than average and our yield is also lower. But we are still enjoying the results of our hard work!
 
My daughter and I planted a very small variety of veggies in my flower bed this year. So far we have quite a few green Roma tomatoes on our two plants, about 5 peppers on our three plants, about 10 cantaloupe on our 1 plant and maybe 4 butternut squash from about 4 seeds we planted.

We went to a farmers market yesterday and bought some wonderful boc choy...made a good stir fry last night.
 
Overall, it looks like our average forum member's thumb is much greener than mine. Or is it mainly location, location, location? In the desert of AZ, it is difficult to find plants that will thrive in the 110 deg heat. I have to set up automatic sprinkers to water 3 times a day. Whenever we visit friends or relatives in California, we always envy them. Whatever they stick in the ground grows.

But can you beat this? In the current issue of Time Magazine, it is reported in an article on urban agriculture boom that a sub-acre lot on the outskirts of Philadelphia brought in $67K in salad greens and baby veggie. In Milwaukee, a 1-acre farm grosses $220K, but with tilapia tanks, and poultry pens. Yikes, that's work.

If I can relocate to somewhere with a moderate temperature, and am able to not buy vegetable from supermarkets for a few months a year, I would be happy. Looks like some of our forum members are on track to do that.
 
Hey, I know it's too late for this season, but the mention of summer squash and zucchini in other posts prompts me to suggest you summer squash fans try the following varieties for your garden next year:

Summer squash Zephyr - yellow with a green tip - has a wonderful flavor.
Johnny's - Product - 2217 - Zephyr (F1)

Zucchini Costada Romanesco - best flavored zucchini I've found -
Johnny's - Product - 2053 - Costata Romanesco

Johnny's Seeds sells both, not sure where else they might be found.
 
I have large amounts of zucchini and cucumbers. Is there away to preserve/store cucumbers other than pickling (i.e.:cooking or freezing)?
 
NWB, down where our friends live in Puglia where it is very hot and dry (not sure if it is AZ levels), I see tons of commercial lots of plants grown under shaded cover (a loosely woven green or blackish netting, probably recycled poly-something or other). You can buy various grades of filtering, like sunscreen but with percentages.
 
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