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Old 01-19-2016, 02:11 PM   #41
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Unfortunately Canada fails on the weather front and salt water front, unless we consider Van. isle. (Gloomy for half the year) We have family there too.

I hate to get off topic as I really think your OP was a really good insight to those looking to move about. We have lived by the same mantra in all our moves.
Yes we live in Wet Vancouver and were OK while working but once retired, we decided to escape the gloomy gray "mild" weather for 5+ months. We tried Florida twice and each of Phoenix, San Diego and Palm Springs once. Ironically, we found San Diego (La Jolla) to be gloomy much of the year even though warmer. That marine layer is a killer.
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Old 01-20-2016, 08:10 AM   #42
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Weather as a sub-topic under 'where to retire' will all depend on the individuals interests. Year round warmer weather will obviously not be what someone who likes skiing/snowmobiling/etc. weather wants to hear about. People retire to Alaska just because they like the outdoors and hunting for example.

What can be of interest to people looking to retire somewhere warmer though, is an understanding of what warm weather can mean in different places. What I mean is, people who are interested in retiring to a warmer climate, may not realize the difference humidity can make in the place they think will be their 'retirement paradise'.

A good example is SEA and Thailand which is a popular place for retirement. The humidity is incredible there most of the year. But the average person considering it as a location to retire, may not see past the 'warmer weather'.

If you retire to say Malaysia, you will find that you probably go out to shop only very early in the morning or late in the evening. If you go out after 9am, you will walk about 1 block before your shirt is sticking to your back. Warm yes, comfortable no.

So as a general comment under the topic of 'where to retire to', it makes sense to add that if you want warmer weather, make sure the locations you consider while warm, are not so humid that it will be a problem for you. Humidity is much more important than temperature in terms of what feels comfortable.
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Old 01-20-2016, 08:21 AM   #43
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Humidity is much more important than temperature in terms of what feels comfortable.
Back when......we used to run in Riyadh (dry) year round, (albeit at 05:00 a.m.), regardless of the temps.....joined one day by a guy on our project who was stationed in Jiddah, (on the Red Sea and extremely humid).....he said that in the summer in Jiddah you could run a mile..period.
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Climate, as noted is personal preference/Tolerance. I agree high humidity can get to you after a few weeks of it. We were a lot more bothered by it when we first moved to NE FLA 12 years ago. Now we are used to it (I think). We like to say we are at least. But over all we prefer living by the beach, with no snow, LOTS of sunshine and mild winters, (We can go to Colorado if we want good skiing). Living by the beach reduces humidity and the constant breezes help.

Our list is sort of like this, although the order does change:
  1. A Lot more sun than cloud and rain.
  2. No snow in winter
  3. Salt Water Beach, VERY Close.....(Not so much for the beach itself, there is just something about living in a beach town. Hard to explain) This stems from spending 3 years boating in the Caribbean, go figure.
  4. Top Notch Health Care, with no/little waiting for specialists, MRI, CT etc., even if the Insurance company based payment system is sad. (I have a Pacemaker)
  5. NOT a Big City
  6. Reasonably priced housing
  7. Average Taxes
  8. Reasonably priced good quality food
  9. Low crime rate
  10. All else is noise really
The last few items are not really in order just came to mind...... Makes me wonder what YOUR lists are like? We do not work so job availability does not even appear on ours.
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Old 01-20-2016, 09:43 AM   #45
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I personally have few 'must haves' ShokWaveRider. I'm pretty tolerant and adaptable to most things. Weather for example isn't really a biggy for me. If I can't go to a beach, I can walk in the fall leaves. Have you ever hiked through a maple forest in Ontario or New England in the autumn? https://www.google.ca/search?q=ontar...w=1051&bih=501

Just as you can visit Colorado to ski, I can visit a good beach to swim. Everywhere has its pluses and minuses and for me weather is not a huge factor simply because different weather offers different choices of things to enjoy. The only real weather downer I consider is rain. Warm, cold, dry(desert), all have things of interest to me but in the rain, there sure ain't much you can do. So Vancouver, Canada or Portland, Oregon are not gonna make my list.

I do have one 'must' or more accurately, 'must not have'. As a rule of thumb, I am not interested in anywhere where most of the houses have bars on the windows to keep crime out. The places that eliminates may surprise some people. Costa Rica or S. Africa for example which are fairly popular for retirement. It also of course eliminates some areas in some N. American cities. I consider it a pretty good rule of thumb.

I always remember a couple I met in Tahiti who lived in Beverly Hills and who told me in conversation that they had 'intruder drills' with their son, just like I might have had 'fire escape drills' with my two sons when they were younger.

The Father told the son who had his own downstairs bedroom/studio apartment, that if the alarm went off, he was to run immediately upstairs where Father would be waiting at the top. The first person up got a pass and the second person up was going to get a bullet. He wasn't kidding. Did you ever ask yourself why pretty much every house in Beverly Hills has a security company sign out front warning of 'Armed Response'? That doesn't sound like somewhere I want to live either.
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...... Makes me wonder what YOUR lists are like? ....

My list
  1. Sunny, warm, low humidity - mild winters
  2. Access to great hiking, biking, and running routes
  3. Kayak lakes/rivers nearby
  4. Interesting places nearby to photograph
  5. Something resembling a wilderness within 0.5 hr
  6. Minimal traffic, crowds
  7. Grocery/home improvement stores within 0.5 hr
  8. Big city/shopping(DW)/airport within 1-1.5 hrs
  9. Reasonably priced housing
  10. Ability to have workshop on property
  11. Low real estate taxes
  12. Low crime rate

Unfortunately, I haven't found a single place that meets all of these criteria.


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Or, some of us who moved a lot when we were younger are really thrilled at being able to finally "set down roots". At least I am. I have lived in Louisiana for 20 years by now, and love the fledgling roots that have begun to sprout.
That reminds me of my husband. His dad was in the Navy. DH was born in the Philippine Islands soon after WWI. He moved a lot in his childhood, but lived in some pretty cool places including Hawaii and San Diego. I think that is one reason that every time we move he wants it to be the forever home. But, it often hasn't been because needs change over time.

I, on the other hand, never moved during childhood. In fact, my mom is in her 90s and is still in that same house after almost 60 years there. When I went away to school I was ecstatic just to be somewhere else.

Moving literally doesn't bother me at all. I don't love traveling actually (pets), but selling our house and buying a new one if needs change is totally OK with me (yes, you need to stay long enough to make it OK financially). So from my standpoint, I always have a next attitude. I don't move somewhere with the intent of moving. I'm fine staying if my needs stay the same. But, if something changes it doesn't bother me at all to move.
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Old 01-20-2016, 05:08 PM   #48
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You have no idea Katsmeow how difficult it is to get some people to understand that 'needs change' even after retirement. So many seem to think they can 'plan' their retirement. I've yet to meet anyone who 'planned' everything that ever changed in their life up until retirement. But I've met many who think they can do so after retirement.

All any of us can hope to do at any age is MAYBE have a year go as planned. Beyond that at any age, it's all just guesswork and subject to change. Like the Yiddish saying goes, 'man plans and God laughs.' Personally, I like the Greek take on the same thing.

A shrug of the shoulders and the phrase, 'tina kana may'(written phonetically). It more or less translates as, 'what can I do' but it means, 'it's in the hands of the Gods.'
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Has anyone tried Findyourspot.com? You answer a quiz and it gives you 2 dozen places to consider. I thought it did a descent job of matching to locations.
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Has anyone tried Findyourspot.com? You answer a quiz and it gives you 2 dozen places to consider. I thought it did a descent job of matching to locations.
Before you click through this site's 20 pages, be forewarned that it requires you to provide a bunch of personal information before it coughs up a recommendation.
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Before you click through this site's 20 pages, be forewarned that it requires you to provide a bunch of personal information before it coughs up a recommendation.
It does, but I have not seen a bunch of E-mail or other problems as a result. You can opt out of a lot of stuff if you want to.
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It does, but I have not seen a bunch of E-mail or other problems as a result. You can opt out of a lot of stuff if you want to.
I, personally, thought it was sneaky to make you answer 20 pages of questions before springing on the demand for personal information. That way, you have an investment and an incentive to give information that you probably would not have given initially. YMMV
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you have an investment and an incentive to give information that you probably would not have given initially. YMMV
For me, having reached the 'personal questions', it provided an incentive to shut down that window.
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My list
  1. Sunny, warm, low humidity - mild winters
  2. Access to great hiking, biking, and running routes
  3. Kayak lakes/rivers nearby
  4. Interesting places nearby to photograph
  5. Something resembling a wilderness within 0.5 hr
  6. Minimal traffic, crowds
  7. Grocery/home improvement stores within 0.5 hr
  8. Big city/shopping(DW)/airport within 1-1.5 hrs
  9. Reasonably priced housing
  10. Ability to have workshop on property
  11. Low real estate taxes
  12. Low crime rate

Unfortunately, I haven't found a single place that meets all of these criteria.


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For me, having reached the 'personal questions', it provided an incentive to shut down that window.
Exactly what I did.
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