Chuckanut
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As a public school teacher I paid for many training classes out of my own pocket. Nothing new here.
Interesting stuff...
Anyone here wanna give a guess as to what a $2000 training trip might cost a company, after the tax benefit?
Yes, depends, but assuming a moderately profitable corporation.
The title of this thread is misleading since the trip OP is describing is NOT a "work trip."
To make it a "work trip," OP would need to make a proposal to management showing the benefits of his newly acquired knowledge to the company accompanied by a proposal of a project he would implement and what improvements in security and costs it would yield. Goals should be well defined and quantatively measurable. Success of the project would be a key factor in OP's performance review and merit raise.
Otherwise, rather than a work trip, it's just a "boondoggle."
The company would be nuts to pay for this or even give OP paid time off to attend.
if I had to actually go on a work trip, I would at least try to see some sights as well.
I have never actually been required to go on a work trip
if I had to actually go on a work trip, I would at least try to see some sights as well.
I have never actually been required to go on a work trip
Sight-seeing? Perhaps that confirms what youbet is saying. I am thinking that if you had ever "actually been required to go on a work trip", you might learn more about what they entail, and what would be required of you, and what these trips really ARE.
Good call on the tax deduction. I would actually consider myself mad for paying for this myself. Now, let's not be fooled, if I had to actually go on a work trip, I would at least try to see some sights as well.
I have never actually been required to go on a work trip, but I did get a trip to Hawaii paid for from a govt contracting gig to obtain a certification.
I traveled for w*rk sometimes gone for a month or more. I saw the insides of some pretty neat data centers all over the world. Spent a fair amount of time in Boston, lot of data centers there, someone told me there's an ocean around there too.
Most times were better though - spouses & SOs would fly down for the weekend and we'd go out and party, see Disney World, and the like.
You were lucky that you didn't work for my agency - - you never would have traveled for work again! Seriously, you wouldn't and you would have been reprimanded due to not completing your work assignments. NOBODY that I ever knew (not even upper management) ever had time to do anything like that on a work trip unless they took vacation time at the end of the work trip and did it on their own time afterwards. We were getting paid too much by our agency to ever squander work time on that sort of thing.
We have two week assessments where it is cheaper (or breakeven) to stay the weekend than to travel home and back again. So my federal agency will allow you to stay over and will pay per diem, hotel, and rental car. If you then work on the weekend, you can claim comp time but otherwise you are not getting paid and can do what you like so you could go to Disneyworld or whatever. These are usually complex assessments so I generally wrk on my report on Saturday but may take Sunday off. During the weekdays, any sightseeing is done after hours. Just wanted to clarify for all the taxpayers reading this.
I suppose that on a work trip, that after getting to the meeting/conference at 8 AM each day, working all day, meeting again at 6:30 for a working dinner that lets out around 10, one could have a jolly old time seeing the sights!
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Honestly I thought everybody's work trips were like this.
IMO they are a tremendous waste of manpower and money for interactions that would be just as effective over the internet.
I suppose that on a work trip, that after getting to the meeting/conference at 8 AM each day, working all day, meeting again at 6:30 for a working dinner that lets out around 10, one could have a jolly old time seeing the sights! Well, if one did not have to prepare a PowerPoint for an unexpected presentation to a room full of people the next day. Luckily the latter did not happen every day.
ABQ2015 was right, in that if I had time to kill over a weekend before or after, I could sightsee. Well, often there was a welcome buffet starting around 4 PM on Sunday, and sometimes I was so tired from the flights that I just wanted to rest, but otherwise the weekends were usually free if/when I was at the destination.
You know, I don't miss work travel one bit, I must admit. IMO they are a tremendous waste of manpower and money for interactions that would be just as effective over the internet.
Did I mention that I walked uphill both ways to elementary school, barefoot in the snow? Honestly I thought everybody's work trips were like this.