Why not drive a Tesla?

You don't understand the amazing drive of the tesla

The electric gives you instant effortless power with unbelievable acceleration. I find out I end up getting places much faster due to this.

The electric cars are completely quiet with no vibration or rumble from the gas motor vibrating.

Like I said 95 percent of buyers buy again.

You have to experience it to understand it.
 
Agreed. He is kind of out there. And nothing he has not discovered any new physics.

He has driven the world towards electric vehicles which is commendable.

Owning a tesla is a little like being in a cult. Never go on the tesla forum and criticize anything or you will get beaten
 
I know Musk is a hero to many people, but the previous comparison of him to Edison was beyond ridiculous...
I never met either, and don't have feelings either way, although I must admit to being deeply grateful to Mr. Edison for inventing the phonograph, from which I have enjoyed countless hours of pleasure.

I think Fermion's post was tongue in cheek and not suggesting a true comparison.
 
I have no doubt that some day in the future we all will be driving electric cars but the technology and infrastructure still has some ways to go to be viable for the masses. For now I'll keep my gas engine. Heck, I'm still trying to get use to the 2.0l 4-banger turbos :LOL:
 
We test drove one a couple of years ago. It is a beautifully engineered car. Simplicity and clean lines. Since then, they have moved the dealership across the street. Our driving pattern would never justify it. Our condo provides no plugins. Maybe some year...
 
I would drive a Tesla. But I drive in places where I believe charging is not available. As to the Edison-Tesla comparison, maybe Musk meant Tesla to be contrasted to anything Edison, as in the original Tesla/Edison electrical versions.
 
You don't understand the amazing drive of the tesla

The electric gives you instant effortless power with unbelievable acceleration. I find out I end up getting places much faster due to this.

The electric cars are completely quiet with no vibration or rumble from the gas motor vibrating.

Like I said 95 percent of buyers buy again.

You have to experience it to understand it.

What does that mean? Tesla has only been around a few years, are you saying that 95% of the people have already had to buy a second one?

I'm guessing you are saying 95% of buyers say they would buy again, which is not the same thing. Much like you claim that range is not a problem (it is for some people) and charging is free (only if you are grandfathered in, from what I gather). Completely quiet? What about wind and tire-on-road noise at highway speeds? Half-truths don't go very far with me, and you seem to be full of them.

Back to the range issue, I was just looking to see what one of my longest drives, which I do every year or two, would be like. It's doable, the stations are properly spaced, but I'm locked into those stops, which means that if there's an accident at that exit I still have to take it, and if there's an accident nearby such that I might take another detour around a city, forget it. It's the same as planning out your gas station stops in advance, and sticking to those, no matter what. Or worse, someone else plans them out for you, with no regard for the stops being near a restaurant that you'd actually like to eat in.
 
Don't try to drive across ND with one, the tesla map shows none in ND.

There are a lot of other places with none around as well.

I have no doubt it's a cool car, but since I drive only 12K per yr, I'm already saving the planet by driving less than average :)
 
Sorry. Don't mean to be deceptive.

They say 95 percent of tesla owners that buy an additional car , actually buy a tesla Not asked what they would buy

Everyone gets free charging if they are referred

When I refer to quiet, I mean engine noise

The amount of time I spend charging is much less than I spend putting gas in.


I have both. Gas cars (truck) and Toyota hybrid,

When you own both it is easier to do comparison
 
They say 95 percent of tesla owners that buy an additional car , actually buy a tesla Not asked what they would buy
I find that very hard to believe. Got a source for that?
 
I have a model s 85d and a model 3 on order for my daughter

I'm not a car guy either but there is nothing like a tesla

Range is never an issue. Every morning you leave with a full tank and I get 275 miles of range. There are superchargers everywhere and you get about 80 percent charge in about 40 minutes

The autopilot is amazing on highways, not so good on side streets

I have over 50k miles in two years.

I am completely convinced that all cars will go electric in the future

Will never go back to gas


The question is how far in the future... I do not see it happening in my lifetime....

As an example... the Chevy Bolt loaded is listed at $43K... the similar Cruze loaded you can get for $27K... that is a difference that the electric needs to reduce.... Gvmt is not going to keep paying $7K per car forever...


And this cannot be more clear that the hybrid is probably going to be the way of the future... Hyundai now has a car called the Ioniq... an all electric one cost $37K fully loaded... but the hybrid cost less than $26K...


So I think fully plug in electric will not win without some major technology that makes energy storage much cheaper than today...
 
When I refer to quiet, I mean engine noise

I can't hear my car engine when I drive...road and wind noise surpass the engine noise. It's like that for most cars, unless the engine noise is designed in as a "feature".

The amount of time I spend charging is much less than I spend putting gas in.

Unless you have to wait for it to charge before you can continue. That being said, waiting 3 or 4 minutes to fill a tank isn't a hardship. On the other hand, waiting a half hour or longer for a charge is a major inconvenience for many.
 
History will determine that.

Has Musk actually invented anything groundbreaking like Edison did, or is he simply tweaking existing technology to make it more feasible? Batteries were around before Musk's parents were born. The same goes with rockets. Light bulbs changed the world, nothing Musk has done comes anywhere near that one accomplishment (out of many) of Edison's.
 
I know Musk is a hero to many people, but the previous comparison of him to Edison was beyond ridiculous...

He is a snake oil salesman with a large cult following , judging from TSLA stock.
I don't think the car is beautiful.
 
I would guess that the people who love Tesla cars are the same ones that enjoy getting the latest smart phones, laptops, tablets, and other new technology when it first comes out.

This forum has a lot of members who take pride on using a flip phone and hanging on to old cars, old computers, and old tech devices much longer than average. Tesla is likely a car for the millennial generation, or at least those who think like a millennial.

I would have thought this thread would generate enthusiasm from other Tesla owners or prospective owners. But it seems like most of this thread is just a bunch of curmudgeons coming up with all sorts of reasons to not like the car.

So to all of you, I say "GET OFF MY LAWN!"
 
I would guess that the people who love Tesla cars are the same ones that enjoy getting the latest smart phones, laptops, tablets, and other new technology when it first comes out.

This forum has a lot of members who take pride on using a flip phone and hanging on to old cars, old computers, and old tech devices much longer than average. Tesla is likely a car for the millennial generation, or at least those who think like a millennial.

I would have thought this thread would generate enthusiasm from other Tesla owners or prospective owners. But it seems like most of this thread is just a bunch of curmudgeons coming up with all sorts of reasons to not like the car.

So to all of you, I say "GET OFF MY LAWN!"
I know. Not a car enthusiast myself, but (at the risk of irritating the Tesla naysayers :)) I like the Tesla. It has nothing to do with Mr. Musk, and getting one is out of the question because it doesn't match my needs. It just seems to me that the automotive future is one step closer, and in a stylish way, and I get to witness that in real time. :)
 
I say Tesla owners are too sensitive. The comment about Mr Musk is a tongue in cheek comment. One of my millennials' favorite car is a mini. Maybe we can go suck our thumbs and calm ourselves a whee bit.
 
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I would guess that the people who love Tesla cars are the same ones that enjoy getting the latest smart phones, laptops, tablets, and other new technology when it first comes out.

This forum has a lot of members who take pride on using a flip phone and hanging on to old cars, old computers, and old tech devices much longer than average. Tesla is likely a car for the millennial generation, or at least those who think like a millennial.

I would have thought this thread would generate enthusiasm from other Tesla owners or prospective owners. But it seems like most of this thread is just a bunch of curmudgeons coming up with all sorts of reasons to not like the car.

So to all of you, I say "GET OFF MY LAWN!"

Actually, I have nothing against Teslas, I just think the hype is way overblown. It's an expensive battery operated car with limitations that some people find too onerous.

And, many people simply don't like the fact that they are forced to subsidize someone's $100,000 car purchase.
 
I'm not planning on getting a Tesla, but a Zero is on my list - :)
 
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