Was I in the wrong for 'roughing' this guy up?

[thefed]

Well,of course I was. But it felt to be a good situation for it....and it was instinctual (dont know if this is good or bad?)


We were at the closing ceremony for a 60-mile breast cancer walk that my MIL participated in. We were there with about 12 people in our group.

As were were waiting for the walkers to arrive, I noticed the guy in front of me had is cell phone on...and the camera on....aimed right at a girl in my party. It was pointed right at her chest...and without looking at his camera he snapped the pic (very discreetly....I was certainly the only person in the place with a view of his screen). It came out blurry so he casually snapped a few more....pretending like he was on the phone, 'stretching' his arms into the air...etc. He even got a nice butt-shot!

Then I saw him text-message the picture to someone on his contact list. By this point, I was fuming, but keeping it to myself. Hindsight says go tell security and have the phone examined....but I was beyond that. The guy waited about 5 mins. and started again....all the while the girl from my party was oblivious. I didnt know her personally so I didnt want to mention it and embarrass her...because she had nowhere to hide them....

So when he went to snap the 5th pic, I said "Knock that sh!t off!" Firmly, but quiet enough nobody heard. He looked at me and said "What?" with a bewildered look on his phace. I said "Don't play stupid with me, I've been watching you for 10 minutes" He said "Calm down dude...you're crazy." as he nervously searches for and deletes several pics with one eye on me and one on the phone. "Get the f$3k outta here right now" I said as I pointed to the other end of the building, "GO!". He slowly meandered toward me and said "You dont know me" I said "You're a f-ing pervert....get out of here before I embarrass you" And I scruffed him by the tricep are and walked him a few feet to give him some momentum. It took all I had not to lay this pervert on the ground....but it wasnt the time nor place.


Normally I wouldnt even say anything, ya know? let the perv go get his rocks off later (he was about 28 yrs old...bigger guy maybe 6ft-220lbs nicely dressed....didnt look like a stereotypical perv). But dont be taking boob shots of women you dont know at a BREAST CANCER event. Have some decency.


My wife saw the end of this and said I shouldnt have touched him,and I agree....but I reached my limit today.

 

[Notmuchlonger]

I think you showed a good deal of self control.

 

[haha]

I think you are crazy, Galahad.

That is how people get killed.

Ha

 

[shiny]

That is how people get killed.
Ha

It probably was a bit risky touching the guy, but I do think you were right to tell him to stop. I wish more guys would call other guys out on their creepy behavior.

 

[youbet]

You weren't wrong thefed, but the pic taking guy missed a golden opportunity when you grabbed his arm. He should have gone down screaming in pain calling for the police and his lawyer.

 

[haha]

It probably was a bit risky touching the guy, but I do think you were right to tell him to stop. I wish more guys would call other guys out on their creepy behavior.

I understand what you mean. When I was a Southern kid, I accepted that a woman's honor was very important, and that I or any other right thinking man should be expected to stand in.

But I got older, and I realized among other things that there were a significant number of ladies who actualy like to be fought over, to cause difficulty and danger for men. Then time went on and I discovered that there is no easier way to get shot than to fail to keep your mouth shut and eyes straight ahead around men and women doing the various things that they do.

Do I think that Fed's group member was harmed by having someone foto her? No. He even said she didn't know any of it. Fed's own woman told him to cool it.

Tell security if you think something has to be done. Or just relax, this was maybe the least important thing that happened all day.

Ha

 

[lazygood4nothinbum]

 

[Notmuchlonger]

New look for you lazy?

 

[shiny]

Funny LGNB!

I started to respond... so if we don't want to end up on "clandestine boob shot .com" or some such then we should just stay home and sit around in our Burqas?? But I held back.

I understand that some women (and men) relish the attention - there are plenty of those to be found without taking creepy stealth photos of someone who has just walked 60 miles for charity.

If someone had been taking those of me, I would be glad to know there is someone like thefed telling them to stop.

 

[lazygood4nothinbum]

glad to see my humor isn't entirely lost. just making the point: know what you're fighting for.

 

[Sarah in SC]

Fighting for the right to wear something that shows off our boobs?

Fed, when did y'all get married? Congratulations!

 

[Walt34]

That is how people get killed.

Agreed. Call police/security and embarrass the guy if you do anything. Touching him puts you and your family at risk, although I certainly understand the motivation to stomp his face.

The reality is that he probably didn't do anything that constitutes a violation of any statutes, although in some locales that is changing. Being a creep/jerk/a$$hole is not a crime.

 

[Dawg52]

I think the most I would have done is step in front of the lady to block his view and shake my head at him. He would have got the message.

 

[HFWR]

Fighting for the right to wear something that shows off our boobs?

From the halls of Montezuma... O0

 

[ERD50]

If you look back at some of thefeds other posts, you will see that he appears to thrive on putting himself in risky situations. And then making himself out to be the hapless victim, or the good guy.

Let's see - a convicted drug felon that was thinking about going into a business on the fringes of the drug trade (hydroponic supplies) that would put him into contact with people in the drug business and their money.

And the time he smarted off to a cop when he found himself in a hotel where a drug bust appeared to be going on...

I think there were others, those two come to mind. Some people are not happy if they are not on the edge. Call security? No fun for thefed would be my take on it.

-ERD50

 

[cantlogin]

If you look back at some of thefeds other posts, you will see that he appears to thrive on putting himself in risky situations. And then making himself out to be the hapless victim, or the good guy.

Let's see - a convicted drug felon that was thinking about going into a business on the fringes of the drug trade (hydroponic supplies) that would put him into contact with people in the drug business and their money.

And the time he smarted off to a cop when he found himself in a hotel where a drug bust appeared to be going on...

I think there were others, those two come to mind. Some people are not happy if they are not on the edge. Call security? No fun for thefed would be my take on it.

-ERD50

Right on target.

 

[Westernskies]

I think you handled it well, and exercised an amazing amount of self restraint. It is always easy to say"if I had been in a similar situation, I would have xxxx" but... a few years ago we were out to dinner with friends when a similar situation arose. My brother saw what was happpening, got up from the table, dropped his napkin on the floor, and casually picked it up as stepped over to the guys table. He greeted him like an old friend, patted him on the shoulder and said something like " it is always good to see you, too bad you were just leaving" and unobtrusively dropped his dirty napkin on the guy's plate. He then continued on to the restroom, and when he returned the guy was long gone. Anyone witnessing it wouldn't have suspected a thing.

I would have been tempted to take his phone away from him, and turn it over to the police. They might have been been interested to see just what else he was taking pictures of. If he was that brazen about it, he has probably been doing this for some time, and probably has quite a collection.

 

[Jay_Gatsby]

thefed acted appropriately. Sometimes you just have to step up and tell people what they are doing is completely inappropriate. The guy could have pressed charges for battery against thefed. Likewise, the guy could have tried to knock thefed's block off. Yet either action would have exposed his nefarious activities. It sounds like the guy originally hoped thefed would go along with his lascivious behavior, and when thefed didn't, the guy feigned innocence while trying to cover up his tracks.

 

[CyclingInvestor]

. . . or you could have just pointed the guy to a more appropriate target -

 

[Notmuchlonger]

Ha! that shirt certainly gets to the point!

 

[Bestwifeever]

You over-reacted. What could this guy have been charged with? Taking a picture in a public place of a stranger? Is that illegal? He could have said he thought he knew the woman. He's an idiot but imho you are lucky he didn't call a cop himself when you physically escorted him out of the area. If I were you and it bothered me that much I would have turned it over to someone official at the event.

 

[Westernskies]

. . . or you could have just pointed the guy to a more appropriate target -

Did that picture come off your cell phone?

 

[lazygood4nothinbum]

what erd50 said, plus, what amazing eyesight or presumption (even if correct) to be able to know precisely what was in focus in the other person's camera's viewfinder. maybe the guy was just taking an offcentered picture of your crotch. which way does it lean? because certainly you think you have the balls for it.

which is more perverted? seeing a woman's body which turns you on and wanting to take a picture to preserve the moment or seeing a person who you assume preserving a moment and further assuming the photo "nefarious" in nature and connecting that all with a notion of being at a breast cancer event. does anyone seriously think--even if the guy was indeed snapping boobs--that the pervtographer made all those connections? if your own perverted mind hadn't made such connections, would the photo have seemed so dirty? would an artist ever make a point of painting breasts at an awareness affair for breast cancer?

chivalry or inhibition? here's another news flash: sexual attraction is not perverted. it is natural. so get over it. fight to veil yourself or take a chance to avail youself. but know what you are fighting for.

 

[Westernskies]

what erd50 said, plus, what amazing eyesight or presumption (even if correct) to be able to know precisely what was in focus in the other person's camera's viewfinder. maybe the guy was just taking an offcentered picture of your crotch. which way does it lean? because certainly you think you have the balls for it.

which is more perverted? seeing a woman's body which turns you on and wanting to take a picture to preserve the moment or seeing a person who you assume preserving a moment and further assuming the photo "nefarious" in nature and connecting that all with a notion of being at a breast cancer event. does anyone seriously think--even if the guy was indeed snapping boobs--that the pervtographer made all those connections? if your own perverted mind hadn't made such connections, would the photo have seemed so dirty? would an artist ever make a point of painting breasts at an awareness affair for breast cancer?

chivalry or inhibition? here's another news flash: sexual attraction is not perverted. it is natural. so get over it. fight to veil yourself or take a chance to avail youself. but know what you are fighting for.

Interesting perspective from someone who regularly rants about his own right to sexual privacy.

 

[HFWR]

I think his "rants" are more about his right to sexual freedom, but I could be wrong.