Tiger in a pile of p/r poop.............

While this discussion is focused on Tiger I believe there is a bigger lesson here that we can teach our children, particulary daughters. It is important to consider the maturity of the person you choose to become involved with, let alone marry.

I don't think Tiger is a 'bad' person, just that he is not mature in an intimate sense. My sister married a man with similar deficiencies but our parents had no way to identify the issue. The family left it to her to select her spouse.

I don't know what the solution might be.
 
Elin may leave him, but golf will remain.

One thing we have not considered- Elin may be a gold plated pita. I don't like the look on her face- can we say Ice Maiden?

It's all a media circus, to distract us from things that might actually matter.

Ha
 
One thing we have not considered- Elin may be a gold plated pita. I don't like the look on her face- can we say Ice Maiden?

It's all a media circus, to distract us from things that might actually matter.

Ha

Ok I'll admit I have a weak spot for Scandinavian blonds with great bodies, but you also have to give the girl credit for not wrapping a 9 iron around his head, like the SNL skit showed. No jury in the country would have convicted her of the assault.
 
From another forum !

In Defense of Tiger Woods and Good Fun Sex

Why does Tiger Woods owe us an apology?

Let's assume that all the accusations of serial philandering are true. That no waitress was safe from his charms. What right do we, the public, have to be upset?

Woods never presented himself as a pillar of moral virtue. He marketed himself as a great golfer. His job was to knock balls into holes?which he did. He didn't cheat at golf.

Nowhere in America lives a kid who looked up to Tiger because he thought he was faithful to his wife.

Woods wasn't some right-wing hypocrite. He didn't preach. His church was the Chapel of Sports Excellence.

Apologize? What for?

I'm not even sure he owes his wife an apology. According to various reports (although I fathom not how said accounts were sourced), Woods' wife lost interest in sex after having kids. If she turned colder, oh well. Things happen. Tiger didn't have the right to demand that she put out. But he had every right?the duty, even, if there was to be any chance of his keeping his family intact from divorce?to have some fun on the side.

If Mrs. Woods wanted it ten times a day, on the other hand, he owes her an apology. Her. Not us.

Yet the media is tearing Tiger a new one. "The fact that he isn't allowing questions and is positioning his friends and handpicked reporters as props [at his tele-apology] is the height of arrogance," publicist Nick Ragone told The New York Post. "At some point, he'll be shamed into doing a true mea culpa." Another PR flack said: "He didn't think enough of his fans back then [three months ago, when the scandal broke] to do the right thing."

"Mea culpa"? What for? "Think enough of his fans"? How is Tiger's sex life the business of his fans? Although, personally, I was surprised to find out he was straight. But I digress.

More than 150 years ago, Nathaniel Hawthorne posited that America's original sin was its Puritan heritage. Isn't it time we grew up?

Several years ago a book appeared with a provocative title: Against Love. Who could be against love, I wondered, and why? Not the author, Laura Kipnis. "Clearly no one can be against love," she writes. It turned out that she was actually against monogamy. Monogamy, Kipnis argued, stifles passion.

"Adultery is basically a referendum on the sustainability of monogamy, which means a referendum on the basic premises of modern coupled life, namely that desire will persist throughout a decades-long relationship, " writes Kipnis. "If it doesn't apparently you're supposed to either give up sex, or 'work harder' at it. Adultery is the collective?if secretive?rebellion against these strictures, but also a backdoor way of experimenting with possibilities for more gratification than what we're officially allowed, a workshop for wanting "more" that what current social institutions provide."

So why did she choose that title? I don't know for sure, but I bet the fact that opposing love is less controversial than opposing monogamous relationships had something to do with it.

What's surprising is that people act so shocked when you speak out against monogamy. If a make of car failed as often as monogamy does, if it burst into flames half the time you took it out for a ride?that's the divorce rate?it would be recalled. Monogamous marriage is so widely recognized as a lemon that it has spawned countless pop culture parodies ("The Lockhorns" comic strip, the "Married with Children" TV show).

People talk about elderly married couples who are still happy and in love in the hushed, reverential tones used while standing in front of the "Mona Lisa" the first time or witnessing a UFO landing in front of the White House. If a car almost never worked, its manufacturers would be thrown in prison.

Tiger Woods, in other words, is merely the latest of billions of human beings who have been victimized by a crummy, worthless system that has only been around less than one percent of human history, one that everyone hates but is afraid to admit. He hates it, his wife hates it, most of us hate it. Yet we all pay it lip service.

Truth be told, the Tiger Woods "scandal" exists mainly in the minds of media gatekeepers. The topic was discussed in bars and break rooms and cafes, but nary a "what a pig!" has been heard. The reason is obvious: most Americans have cheated. Some have as many lovers as Tiger.

Against logic and reason, the fidelity hoax goes on. Tiger Woods isn't a sex addict?he's a human being who likes to have sex. Lots and lots of sex.

Tiger Woods shouldn't apologize?he should teach classes.
 
Looks like the comeback has officially begun... He just lined up his first new post-meltdown sponsor:
 

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He was on the tv show "Full House" and has made many made-for-tv movies. He's considered a star I think.

Frayne, you gotta point there. And Tiger certainly doesn't own me an apology, and, frankly, I really didn't want to be bored by hearing about it so much on tv....but I do think if I were married to him or one of my friends was I would think he was a pig.
 
I hear Jesse is building a custom ride for Tiger in exchange for golfing lessons...:whistle:
 
I hear they are trading little black book, which I guess now days is actually blackberries.
 
This will come as no surprise, but the divorce has been confirmed by the parties involved.

Tiger Woods and Elin Nordegren divorce - Telegraph

Cliff, seems like Elin is now available, so what is your next move going to be?

Can't speak for Cliff, but I wouldn't take that ice maiden on a bet. Now any of those Tiger floozies might be another story, if any of them have a taste for frugal, impecunious old men.

Ha
 
Can't speak for Cliff, but I wouldn't take that ice maiden on a bet. Now any of those Tiger floozies might be another story, if any of them have a taste for frugal, impecunious old men.

Ha

Not even if she asked nicely and said please:confused: I got a feeling most of Tiger's other girlfriends were probably as much interested in Tiger's money and fame as they were in Tiger.
 
Can't speak for Cliff, but I wouldn't take that ice maiden on a bet. Now any of those Tiger floozies might be another story, if any of them have a taste for frugal, impecunious old men.

Ha


Just curious on how you know she is an ice maiden:confused:


I think she is beautiful... can't say anything about her personality, but she seems to smile and laugh when I have seen her on the TV...
 
Just curious on how you know she is an ice maiden:confused:


I think she is beautiful... can't say anything about her personality, but she seems to smile and laugh when I have seen her on the TV...

I don't know about her personality either, haven't never met her (yet:D). I think she is gorgeous also. "You can never be too thin or too rich" and after the divorce she is so rich, I'll never have to worry about SWRs.:LOL:

So here is my plan.
1. Lose 20 lbs
2. Plan a trip to where ever she and the kids settle down
3. Write her a nice letter, expressing my admiration for the classy way she has conducted herself in this sordid affair.

I am open to suggestions on what else to include on the letter. What type of things to send a girl who has everything, that won't seem overly scary stalker type. I am guessing their is going to be some competition for the elegant Elin.
 
I am open to suggestions on what else to include on the letter. What type of things to send a girl who has everything, that won't seem overly scary stalker type. I am guessing their is going to be some competition for the elegant Elin.

Try crotchless panties. They should strike the right balance of fun and adventurous while also being respectful. :)

This might help your selection process. http://www.fredericks.com/on/demand...rch-Show?q=crotchless+panties&Go.x=23&Go.y=14
 
HaHa I can always count on you to provide valuable advice. It is worth ever penny I spend on it. :)
 
Clifp , You need to dazzle her with your sincerity , faithfulness and financial knowledge . Ignore Ha's suggestion that was only if you were after that Perkins waitress that Tiger cheated with . You need something much classier .
GUIA LA BRUNA
 
Clifp , You need to dazzle her with your sincerity , faithfulness and financial knowledge . Ignore Ha's suggestion that was only if you were after that Perkins waitress that Tiger cheated with . You need something much classier .
GUIA LA BRUNA

Moe, I will admit that this choice possesses a certain je ne sais quoi that is perhaps missing from my Fredericks choices. But maybe she isn't so classy after all? Maybe after losing Tiger she might see the benefit of a bit more trash?
 
Huh? Seeing that Tiger is about as trashy and classless as a guy can get? I still cringe when I think about those Vanity Fair articles...all husband and I have to do is say, "Tiger in the parking lot!" and the other one cracks up....

Maybe after losing Tiger she might see the benefit of a bit more trash?
 
Clif, Elin might appreciate knowing that you hate golf, too.


LOL, that makes me feel much better I was definitely going to include that in my letter. Did I mention that I hated golf in some thread, because I really do. Actually, I did like Tiger and Michelle Wie since she is local girl.
Now you cynics may suspect the reason I hate golf is because I really suck at the game, and you would be right. But also one of my heroes is Winston Churchill and he famously described the game as a "good walk spoiled".

HaHa to be clear, Elin didn't lose Tiger. Tiger lost Elin. I suspect that vast majority of men and women realize who the big loser was. Of course for the guy who suggests crotchless panties from Fredricks geez. I once lost major major points arguing with a girlfriend that only difference between Victoria Secrets and Fredrick's was the label.

Now the Italian lingerie shop that is superior suggestion although maybe more appropriate after our first date.
 
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