Coronavirus - Health aspects

[NW-Bound]

And then your caring will only be temporary.

Some did recover from near death. So, it is still worth caring about what you are afflicted with.

Now, some young people also died, and they made the news. But let me ask you all this: have you read about any geezer recovering from COVID-19?

I have been reading, and have not run across one. Not to say that no one did, but I keep reading about 80-year-olds succumbing.

 

[brewer12345]

At this point I am wondering how long it will be before the public starts clearing supermarket shelves.

 

[Fermion]

At this point I am wondering how long it will be before the public starts clearing supermarket shelves.

I am about to stock up now. It has been a dilemma if I should go to the store now or wait until the stock market closes.

I want to have enough stuff that I don't have to go to the store during a citywide lockdown. I am thinking 30 pounds of coffee should do the trick along with everything else.

The other trick will be to sneak it all inside without the neighbors seeing lol.

 

[brewer12345]

Just put it in big boxes labelled "porn" and "sex doll".

 

[MichaelB]

At this point I am wondering how long it will be before the public starts clearing supermarket shelves.

After living through many hurricanes, its pretty clear that most people will go out looking to stock up supplies the day before it hits. Few stock up early in hurricane season or when warnings are first broadcast, which is 4-5 days earlier.

We were at Costco this morning buying for a shipment to Venezuela and didn't see much that looked like people stocking up.

 

[Fermion]

Just put it in big boxes labelled "porn" and "sex doll".

But during a lockdown, wouldn't those be on people's list?

 

[FIREd]

I think that containment has failed and that, because of the long incubation period and the high proportion of people showing no or only mild symptoms, the virus is already much more widespread than reported. Very few people are actually getting tested, except those who are in critical condition, those that have had a direct contact with a confirmed case, or those coming back from outbreak areas. That is to say, we can't detect what we are not testing for.

But I am not overly concerned for myself. Based on actuarial tables and COVID-19 mortality rates published so far, I still have more chance to die from something other than the virus in the next 12 months and >99% chance to still be around next year. Those are decent odds. But I am concerned for relatives who are older.

Still, I see very few people heading to the store to stock up. I have told a few relatives to replenish their pantry before the panic buying sets in but they have not heeded my warning.

 

[jollystomper]

I have been reminding myself to treat every public surface as contaminated, coronavirus or not. It's just a good health habit.

We were traveling earlier this week at stopped at a highway rest stop. We picked up something to eat and the table with napkins, condiments, etc. was in a separate area. as we approached the area woman stopped near the table to sneeze, and them blow her nose. We decided we did not need anything from that table.

 

[Fermion]

Still, I see very few people heading to the store to stock up. I have told a few relatives to replenish their pantry before the panic buying sets in but they have not heeded my warning.

Even my wife isn't really taking this seriously. I mean she is ok with me stocking up on a few of the essentials but she is not the germaphobe that I am.

I have had the flu. I do not want anything worse than that. I hate not being able to breathe.

 

[TromboneAl]

Are we blowing this out of proportion? I don't think so. But I have to admit I vastly overestimated the effects of Y2K.

 

[Fermion]

Are we blowing this out of proportion? I don't think so. But I have to admit I vastly overestimated the effects of Y2K.

Maybe it will Andromeda strain itself into some harmless virus

 

[Ronstar]

I went to the local small town hospital today for a blood test. The receptionist was wearing a mask. I asked the check-in person how many cases of coronavirus the hospital has had so far.

She said zero. We talked about it for a few minutes. Her tone suggested that it is a problem elsewhere not expected locally. She didn't seem too concerned.

 

[Bongleur]

The daily WHO situation report does not have a link to the page that will get you to the next day's report. This seems to be the index page for it:

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/situation-reports/

 

[Bongleur]

I went to the local small town hospital today for a blood test. The receptionist was wearing a mask. I asked the check-in person how many cases of coronavirus the hospital has had so far.

Since there are only about 456 cases in the entire USA, it was kind of a silly question. If one was found in your locality it would be all over the local news.

Wearing a mask is a sensible precaution for a receptionist within 3 feet of sick people all day long. COVID-19 has nothing to do with it.

 

[brewer12345]

But during a lockdown, wouldn't those be on people's list?

You want to be the one to try someo else's previously enjoyed sex doll?

 

[NW-Bound]

Are we blowing this out of proportion? I don't think so. But I have to admit I vastly overestimated the effects of Y2K.

It may be. But on the practical side, when you are quarantined like people in that hotel in Tenerife, you are not going to argue with the local police that they are over-acting.

See what happened to a Chinese family who disobeyed the order to stay indoors. The story was that this did not happen in Wuhan, but somewhere else. This family escaped from Wuhan to flee to Kunshan, but refused the order to self-quarantine, and roamed the streets. And it was said that one family member had some symptoms.

There's also an unconfirmed story about a North Korean official who disobeyed the order to self-quarantine after returning from China. He went to a public steam bath. Nobody disobeys Kim Jong-Un's order. No 2nd chance. Penalty: execution.

 

[ERD50]

Since there are only about 456 cases in the entire USA, it was kind of a silly question. If one was found in your locality it would be all over the local news.

Wearing a mask is a sensible precaution for a receptionist within 3 feet of sick people all day long. Wuhan flu has nothing to do with it.

Right. Wearing a mask for normal flu/colds is probably prudent for this person. Who knows, maybe this person is allergic to flu shots, and has to take added precautions.

We are not far from the hospital in IL that had the two cases (one a traveler from China, the second was her husband who got it from her). It was all over the news, you knew about it, but there was no panic. They both recovered and are home now. No reports of it spreading further.

So it seems odd to ask "how many". If there was even one locally, you would have known about it.

-ERD50

 

[Sunset]

How many people here actually have any masks? The last I knew, there were none to be had in the stores and plenty of price gouging by online sellers, many of whom were probably responsible for cleaning out all the available store stock. We don't have any and I'm not really looking right now.

We have 50.
I bought them 2 years ago , so I could mix up cement, and install fiberglass. It was a great sale, so I bought extra figuring, I'll always be mixing cement every couple of years.

 

[audreyh1]

At this point I am wondering how long it will be before the public starts clearing supermarket shelves.

I think it’s going to be a while. I don’t think the general population are following it as closely as we are.

 

[NW-Bound]

... If there was even one locally, you would have known about it.

-ERD50

There was one case near me recently, and the patient was associated with Arizona State University. They declined to say if that was a faculty member or student.

Just a day or two ago, it was announced that this patient has recovered, and was released from the hospital after 26 days. And now they said it was a man in his 20s, who had passed multiple tests to ensure that he was clear of the virus. So, most likely a student.

Note his young age. And also note the length of time in the hospital. Imagine keeping a large number of patients (tens of thousand) for that long a period. Who has the facility and staff for that?

 

[copyright1997reloaded]

Good point.

Currently, when someone is talking about "the coronavirus*" they are talking about this current one, "Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), previously known by the provisional name 2019-nCoV."

It's not a good term, but maybe we'll all end up calling it COVID-19 or something else.

*

[mod edit]

 

[Fermion]

I think it’s going to be a while. I don’t think the general population are following it as closely as we are.

I think you are right. In our small little mountain town they don't even know really what an index fund is. It is likely an outbreak would catch everyone here unaware.

I probably have a couple of days advantage on you guys in more "refined" cities.

 

[copyright1997reloaded]

There was one case near me recently, and the patient was associated with Arizona State University. They declined to say if that was a faculty member or student.

Just a day or two ago, it was announced that this patient has recovered, and was released from the hospital after 26 days. And now they said it was a man in his 20s, who had passed multiple tests to ensure that he was clear of the virus. So, most likely a student.

Note his young age. And also note the length of time in the hospital. Imagine keeping a large number of patients (tens of thousand) for that long a period. Who has the facility and staff for that?

I thought I read yesterday that the CDC already stated that when it hits here the plan will be to self quarantine in place for 'mild' cases instead of having hospital level quarantine (as has been done in the USA for most? cases so far)? The idea being that most won't require the hospital ("It's just the flu, bro") with less emphasis on keeping it from spreading (i.e. the spread will already be massive, so why bother).

Of course, this plan falls apart when it is punched in the face, i.e. if a massive number of people fall seriously ill.

 

[Clone]

A word of warning to those folks that might be considering the ER proposed CV19 survival diet consisting of pool lettuce, chlorinated craft beer, and Instant Pot Red Beans and Rice: I have been trying to maintain a low carb diet for the past 6 months (with intermittent fasting). We had a steak fry with friends, and I decided to make some BBQ beans to go with. The sudden re-introduction of beans to the digestive system was not appreciated by the GHG emissions producing section. Approximately 3:03 am, I was prompted to visit the bathroom and make an urgent decision- which end would let loose first? I made the correct decision, and was quickly presented with the dilemma of ‘what-if we are attempting to solve a simultaneous equation’? Fortunately, there was approximately a 10 second pause in the ceremony to allow for a repositioning activity.

Red beans and rice is supposed to be close to a nutritionally complete diet, if I remember correctly. And the Instant Pot makes the preparation much easier. (To be fair, I need to dial in the technique. It is a fine line between al dente and refried beans.) If the zombie apocalypse is upon us, I will also be going back to Costco for a pallet of toilet paper.

 

[Sunset]

I had to do the prep for a colonoscopy, first day is a clear liquid diet , jello, broth, and white wine (well it is clear ). Second day morning was just water for a while.

I lost 2 lbs during that time, (measured officially).

Based on that I think I could starve for about 15 days, and end up a nice trim looking person at the end of the quarantine period