I always laugh when I hear people say that in the media and elsewhere. I've never lost any sleep due to DST my entire life. Go to bed earlier or wake up later.
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Andre1969
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To quote that one song on the oldies station...Easier, easier said than done!
People might not lose that hour of sleep on Saturday night, because they simply wake up an hour later by the clock on Sunday morning, although they slept the same amount of time.
But, it can take awhile to get your body clock adjusted. So if you if you try to force yourself to get to bed an hour earlier on Sunday night, you might have problems falling asleep. And whatever obligations you might have on Monday morning are going to come an hour earlier, according to your body clock.
I guess one reason it never affected me and didn't need to adjust was because my bedtime always varied most of my career, often by more than an hour from one day to the next, and I slept ok. So the time change occurring on a Sunday morning was nothing.... nor Monday morning.
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It's the indecision that gripes me. Just PICK one, and stick with it! I don't care if we are forever on daylight savings time or forever not. The government needs to just be a grown-up for once and decide, and then stop messing with it for pete's sake.
I agree, stop changing it, but I want it to be set to Daylight saving time.
We live in CST but close to the EST time line. So when it is standard time, it gets dark too early. If we were near the Mountain time line, we would have an extra hour of daylight.
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I'm one of those people who worked rotating shift work for decades (rotating weekly). I don't notice half a day, sometimes more, variation in sleep. So all this complaining about changing one hour twice a year seems a bit much. I don't even notice it.
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84 entries talking about an event that happens every year. Proving once again we can talk about anything around here. We must be retired or something.
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I agree, but (as usual) the powers that be are more focused on what's politically expedient than what makes sense for the general public. The data are very clear about a substantial increase in the number of heart attacks and traffic accidents on days right after the switch to DST. From the interwebs:
I would challenge any politician to cite data that "children waiting for the school bus in the dark" is actually worse than many more people being stricken with heart attacks and getting into fatal car accidents right after the switch the DST.
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Andre1969
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I tried searching for "how many kids get injured at the bus stop" Maybe not the best wording, as it came back with "It looks like there aren't many great matches for your search"
The closest thing I could find was this... "Tragically, children are still at risk of being injured or killed at school bus stop accidents. According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), between 2007 and 2016, there were almost 300 school-age children killed in school-transportation accidents."
Now, any kid getting killed in an accident is a tragedy. However, 30 per year is pretty minor, in comparison to other things that kill kids. And of that 30, it doesn't say how many are killed specifically because they were waiting for the bus in the dark.
Here's another interesting tidbit, from another site...
"School bus-related crashes killed 108 people nationwide in 2021, up 50% compared to the pandemic-related low number of 54 deaths in 2020, according to National Safety Council (NSC) tabulations of data from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA).
From 2012 to 2021, about 70% of the deaths in school bus-related crashes were occupants of vehicles other than the school bus, and 16% were pedestrians. About 5% were school bus passengers, 5% were school bus drivers, and 3% were pedalcyclists."
So, it sounds like about 30 kids on average die waiting for the bus, and if 2021 is a "typical" year, another 5-6 on average, die ON the bus when it's involved in an accident.
So, it does sound to me like the damage from the DST change (28 in car accidents plus however many heart attacks) is much greater than what happens with kids waiting in the dark. However, the switch to DST makes some kids wait in the dark, anyway. My neighbors' kids catch the bus around 7:15am. Last week, it was fully light at 7:15am, since that's like 8:15 now. But at 7:15, the sun hasn't come up yet here, although it's fairly light. But I'm sure some kids earlier on that bus route might be waiting in the dark. Not pitch-black dark, but dark enough that it could obscure visibility somewhat.
I wonder though, if the ~30 per year stat includes kids walking to and from the bus stop, or just actually at the bus stop?
The closest thing I could find was this... "Tragically, children are still at risk of being injured or killed at school bus stop accidents. According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), between 2007 and 2016, there were almost 300 school-age children killed in school-transportation accidents."
Now, any kid getting killed in an accident is a tragedy. However, 30 per year is pretty minor, in comparison to other things that kill kids. And of that 30, it doesn't say how many are killed specifically because they were waiting for the bus in the dark.
Here's another interesting tidbit, from another site...
"School bus-related crashes killed 108 people nationwide in 2021, up 50% compared to the pandemic-related low number of 54 deaths in 2020, according to National Safety Council (NSC) tabulations of data from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA).
From 2012 to 2021, about 70% of the deaths in school bus-related crashes were occupants of vehicles other than the school bus, and 16% were pedestrians. About 5% were school bus passengers, 5% were school bus drivers, and 3% were pedalcyclists."
So, it sounds like about 30 kids on average die waiting for the bus, and if 2021 is a "typical" year, another 5-6 on average, die ON the bus when it's involved in an accident.
So, it does sound to me like the damage from the DST change (28 in car accidents plus however many heart attacks) is much greater than what happens with kids waiting in the dark. However, the switch to DST makes some kids wait in the dark, anyway. My neighbors' kids catch the bus around 7:15am. Last week, it was fully light at 7:15am, since that's like 8:15 now. But at 7:15, the sun hasn't come up yet here, although it's fairly light. But I'm sure some kids earlier on that bus route might be waiting in the dark. Not pitch-black dark, but dark enough that it could obscure visibility somewhat.
I wonder though, if the ~30 per year stat includes kids walking to and from the bus stop, or just actually at the bus stop?
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As usual I am very sad with the clock moving forward. I liked the extra light in the evening, and have no need for my day to start earlier. :/
You have it backwards. The clock moving forward means there will be daylight later into the evening based on the clock. And it will be dark later into the morning by the clock.
Well, as mentioned, school scheduled can be changed if that's really an issue. But full time DST would eliminate having to adjust to the time changes for people that are sensitive to it.
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We neither spring forward nor fall back. SO, since most of our TV programs are on a mainland schedule, they flip-flop for us. Fortunately, my DVR seems to adjust reasonably well. YMMV
