Why don't you check back with us after you have a few years of work experience under your belt? You might possibly know something then.
You definitely get dumber as you get older
"If I knew then, what I know now"...
Well said, gentlemen ... .
And who is supposed to provide them with this? The government? Employers? God?
Who provided you with your education? This sounds like a Dickens novel.
Explain how the rug was jerked out from under you. Admittedly, I was not around when the defined benefit plan went the way of the buggy whip.
Please notice folks here are being more respectful to you than you are to them.
And how is it a bait and switch? Did they usurp a vested interest? Seems people had notice about the pensions disappearing. It isn't like people lost their pensions the day before they retired.
So, let’s assume you are just starting out. You have to pay into a pension plan for the next 40 years. Your employer will to. No choice for you. You are guaranteed a specific payout amount. You do your numbers, see you need more, and save on the side for your retirement.
25 years later, your employer says – things have changed. Can’t afford this anymore. For you, at least. So, here’s what we’re gonna do. Take this lump sum payment, which is our calculation of the current value of our future penison obligation to you. It’s yours. Go ahead and invest it. Now you have to provide for 100% of your retirement. Oh, and by the way, if you don’t agree, you’re fired.
So you take it, check the numbers, and see that the amount given to you is far too little to provide the promised pension. You complain, and the explanation given is: well, on average, it is enough. And for employees just starting out, it’s even better. There may be a few individuals less well off. Just a couple. It all depends on the assumptions. You just need to invest it well – you know, get more than 10% a year return for the next 25 years and it’ll do the job. We did. If you can’t, it’s your tough luck. Go suck an egg. So you say, wait a minute. There’s more money in the pension plan – I checked. Give me my share.
The company pension fund is then split into three pieces. The smallest is given back to the employees in this process. Another piece is transferred to the executive pension plan. Now it has enough to cover years of future growth with no more contributions. The final part of the pension plan is clawed back into the company and booked as profit (even though that’s not legal) . The CEO gets a $10M bonus and $50M in stock options for that while the regulators and tax authorities look the other way.
You see the pension math and complain. So the company announces layoffs. Outsourcing jobs to India. Relocating production to China. You’re fired. More stock options to the executive committee.
So, now you’re screwed. Not enough to retire. Gonna have to work 10 more years, maybe more, and accept a lower standard of living – if you can find a job. But now you’re 50 and nobody will hire you – except Wal-Mart. They say you don’t have the right skills. Not the right fit.
So here we are. Should you have saved more. Yes. Should you have trusted your financial future to a company? No. So it’s your fault. Make better choices next time.
Mr. Landonew (et.al.), you probably think this can’t happen to you, ‘cause you know better. Good luck.