Road Trip - Las Vegas Base

If you have time on your Joshua Tree leg of the trip Pioneertown is not very far from there and kind of a cool place- Have a burger at Pappy and Harriets if you go!!
https://visitpioneertown.com/businesses-in-pioneertown

Near (kind of) Palm Springs you have Anza Borrego State Park, The Salton Sea, Borrego Springs and a bit further the little town of Julian. All really cool places to visit. Some driving required but it sounds like you enjoy the raod trip portion

Also in Vegas, if you haven't done it, the Mob museum is always fun


Safe travels and enjoy your trip!!

Thanks for the options for the California portion of my trip. I do have a visit to the Salton Sea if time permits on the list, so I will add these other things as well. I don't know exactly how timing will work out for my time in CA, so I will just wing it based on what my options are at the time. That's how I roll sometimes.
 
I love Anza and Salton Sea - but he'll be getting plenty of desert driving through the Mojave to Palm Springs.

PPirate - the Mouse's tank hike in Valley of Fire is short and level. It's very doable even for out of shape folks. And there are excellent petroglyphs. In Red Rock Canyon there is a 1/4 mile hike (hardly even a hike) to see some petrographs and petroglyphs adjacent to each other.

I was just in Red Rock/Valley of Fire 2 weeks ago. And was in Joshua Tree in November.

Thanks, Rodi. This is helpful. My days in California are pretty fluid, so we'll see what I decide to do. Having options is good.
 
Thanks for the options for the California portion of my trip. I do have a visit to the Salton Sea if time permits on the list, so I will add these other things as well. I don't know exactly how timing will work out for my time in CA, so I will just wing it based on what my options are at the time. That's how I roll sometimes.

The geological features around the Salton Sea are interesting -- hot springs, bubbling mud pots and similar. It's a shame about all the dead fish, though. My wife, who will demand we drive 800 miles out of our way to see the world's largest ball of rubber bands or a creepy clown hotel, loved the International Banana Museum.

Pappy and Harriet's also has occasional live music. We have seen NRBQ play there.
 
Interesting. Everyone has their preferences, I guess. Death Valley is actually at the top of my list and would be the last thing I would skip. I'm a former geologist/geographer and totally enjoy seeing nature's variety of landscapes. I'm sure I'll enjoy it.


I'm with you on Death Valley...
 
Zion is awesome but a good swap out for the OP would be Snow Canyon State park in St George...it's a gem. Sand Hollow is pretty awesome as well.


5 million people visited Zion in 2021. April is also pretty high season at the park.

You beat me to it. Zion is a hornet’s nest. So crowded. Snow Canyon is almost as gorgeous and has the added benefit of lava tubes. Xetava, one of our favorite restaurants is near by as well. On the edge of the park are cider cones you can hike. Lots of petroglyphs are nearby as well.
 
If you like to hike around the desert an interesting spot right near Palm Springs is the Coachella Valley Preserve in Thousand Palms. It gets pretty warm there, but early April should still be OK. I did a quick hike to one of the Palm Oases there back in February.

Honestly though, by April I tend to gravitate more to the high desert and my favorite hike in the area is the 49 Palms Oasis trail in Joshua Tree - pretty views and tons of lizards to look at (and if you're lucky a desert tortoise or two).


P.S. On that same topic, I love Anza Borrego and was camping there just a few weeks ago, but it's also low desert and can get hot pretty quick once April rolls around...
 

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You beat me to it. Zion is a hornet’s nest. So crowded. Snow Canyon is almost as gorgeous and has the added benefit of lava tubes. Xetava, one of our favorite restaurants is near by as well. On the edge of the park are cider cones you can hike. Lots of petroglyphs are nearby as well.


Maybe we'll have lunch together there some day! We almost bought a house in Ivins 15 years ago! But the Ivins of today is far cry from then....the middle of town used to have horse pastures.


For someone like the OP with limited hiking ability Pioneer Park and its walking trails is good as well. The entire Red Cliffs Desert Reserve has much to offer.
 
We flew into Vegas on a $141 round trip last June. Stayed a couple of days in Vegas and hit the road to the Grand Canyon, Bryce Canyon and Zion National Park.

Needless to say, these parks are very popular and congested. But they're special.

By the time we got back to Vegas to fly out, we put 1000 miles on the rental car. Let me just say travel in the region is expensive--from hotels to restaurants. And we're no longer interested in visiting Las Vegas any longer.
 
Interesting. Everyone has their preferences, I guess. Death Valley is actually at the top of my list and would be the last thing I would skip. I'm a former geologist/geographer and totally enjoy seeing nature's variety of landscapes. I'm sure I'll enjoy it.

Zabrieski Point is a short drive from Furnace Creek. Colorful formations of mud/silt in the morning and late afternoon. Ubehebe Crater is a must see, but definitely walk around the entire crater. Less steep going clockwise. It's only a couple of miles including walking around the Little Hebe.
Gas at Stovepipe Wells should be cheaper than the Furnace Creek gas station. I was there a month ago. Regular unleaded was well over $7 a gallon at Furnace Creek. Food prices are pretty bad too but you're limited to those two places in the valley.
And don't miss the large hot spring fed pool at the Ranch or at the Inn.
 
We've spent a few days in Las Vegas on a few road trips. Closest places we visited were Hoover dam, Zion, Bryce, Rte 66 through the desert, Grand Canyon. Most of these were stops going to and from Las Vegas - Hoover Dam we did as a day trip.Wish we would have done Death Valley - we need to go there next time.
 
We have been to all those places. You could also get to Bryce Canyon, and we had another trip where we went to the Alabama Hills, in CA, Bristlecone National Forest, and the Tioga Road area of Yosemite.
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Interesting. Everyone has their preferences, I guess. Death Valley is actually at the top of my list and would be the last thing I would skip. I'm a former geologist/geographer and totally enjoy seeing nature's variety of landscapes. I'm sure I'll enjoy it.

IMO, Death Valley is very interesting since it is so different. I suppose if somebody absolutely hates the desert and heat, they might no like DV. I was last there in January. It was nice. I did get snowed in when the road home through the mountains was closed due to snow.
 
We have been to all those places. You could also get to Bryce Canyon, and we had another trip where we went to the Alabama Hills, in CA, Bristlecone National Forest, and the Tioga Road area of Yosemite.
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Beautiful pictures, but I think that both Tioga Pass and the road to the Bristlecones are closed due to winter snows. Both areas usually open closer to Memorial Day.
 
Thanks for the options for the California portion of my trip. I do have a visit to the Salton Sea if time permits on the list, so I will add these other things as well. I don't know exactly how timing will work out for my time in CA, so I will just wing it based on what my options are at the time. That's how I roll sometimes.


I would skip salton sea . It’s not like mono lake , mostly dried up and kinda nasty ( IMO )
 
OP here. I just got home last night from this trip. I enjoyed the trip very much and it turned out pretty much as I had hoped. Keep in mind that I'm not a hiker. I will do short, relatively easy hikes of 1 mile or less if inclined. Usually, I limit my hikes to about 1/2 mile round trip from the roadside stops. The weather was perfect. No rain and temperatures in the mid 70s to upper 80s during the days. Lots of sunshine.

I flew first class from Pittsburgh to Dallas to Las Vegas using some frequent flyer miles I had stored up.

I'm not big on the casinos in Las Vegas. And I'm not a gambler. I stayed at a reasonably priced Candlewood Suites hotel for the first 4 nights of the trip. It was a short walk off the Strip, so after arrival I walked over there and had some dinner.

The next day I drove up into Death Valley National Park, entering from the Northeast via Beatty, NV. I explored all the stops along Highway 190 South and then went down to Badwater Basin and back up. Then I started back to Las Vegas with stops at Zabriskie Point and on the side road to Dante's View. I enjoyed this day very much and found the geology of the place fascinating.

The next morning, I drove to Red Rock Canyon National Conservation Area just to the west of Las Vegas. I really liked the road loop through the park. I love weird rock formations and this one offered them. After this visit, I then drove to the far other side of Las Vegas to spend the afternoon visiting Valley of Fire State Park. This is a real gem of a state park and worth the drive out to it. It offers a very scenic roadway and several short, easy trails to see things.

The next day, I did the long drive out to walk the overhanging walkway at Grand Canyon West. I knew this gets mixed reviews from people. NO, it's not worth the money. I paid about $95 for the entrance fee and walk out on to the overlook. But, for me, it's a bucket list thing. I'm glad I did it. The $95 goes to the local Indian tribe that runs the facility and I'm supportive of that. I chose to not pay them more money to take pictures of me on the overlook. They don't permit you taking your cameras out on the overlook either. So I have no real proof that I did this, but I DID! The area also has some nice places to view the Grand Canyon aside from the overlook. Guano Point is quite interesting and well worth walking out on the viewing peninsula.

The next day I drove down to Southern California and through Joshua Tree National Park. I entered the park at Joshua Tree, CA. I really, really liked this park. The rock formations are quite unique looking and the various cactus types are pretty and interesting to see. I recommend this park for sure. On the way to Joshua Tree, I drove through the Mojave Desert National Preserve area. This is a pretty desolate place. I had my fingers crossed that my car wouldn't break down, but it was all fine. I would see a car every now and then, so it really was not a big deal.

I stayed 2 nights in a Palm Desert Holiday Inn Express.

The next day, I just wanted to drive around the local area some. Palm Desert and Palm Springs are beautiful. I could see myself spending a few more days here at a relaxing resort some time maybe. I also drove up into the San Jacinto Mountains and did a loop from the south up to Banning. I chose to not try and take the cable car up the mountain because it was really hazy and didn't think it was worth it. I also took the drive up to Big Bear Lake. It's a really pretty area where I had a nice lunch at a local cafe.

Unfortunately, as I was trying to get back to my hotel in Palm Desert, the traffic on Twenty Nine Palms Highway came to a standstill. I don't know what happened, but it wasn't moving westward from Joshua Tree (the town). So I decided to backtrack to Twenty Nine Palms and re-enter the National Park via the second entrance there. That allowed me to see a short section of the park roads that I had skipped the previous day, then I joined up to the road I had already been on and cut through the park going south. At it turns out, that additional park road segment isn't worth doing unless it's convenient to your desired route. I eventually made it back to my hotel that evening.

The next day, I needed to drive back to Las Vegas and I decided to follow my GPS and take the shortest route. In hindsight, that was probably not the best choice. That route took me westward toward Los Angeles to connect with Interstate 15. The traffic getting to 15 was thick and not eventful. Instead, I wish I had driven east from Palm Desert on Interstate 10 and maybe drive up through Lake Havasu area. I think it might have been a more interesting drive. Maybe next time.

I spent my last night in Las Vegas (at another Holiday Inn Express just off the strip) and walked around the casinos a little more before flying back home to Pittsburgh the next morning.

All-in-all, no regrets on doing this trip. I had a great time.

Let me know if anyone has any questions. Happy to answer them if I can.
 
Many state parks need reservations for day use including the scenic drives-Red Rock was fully booked when we were there. Also if you like coffee, stop by Public Us-it's by the Old Vegas Strip in a lower income area -has great coffee and fabulous food. If you can get over to Esters Kitchen-go. It's amazing food. Get a reservation or get in line before they open.
 
might look on atlas obscura for oddball adventures. i like the ASME for historic infrastructure.
 
Sounds like fun trip, PP.

Thanks for sharing all the details. I need to get out west again soon.
 
I didn't see any reference so far to one of our absolutely favorite museums ever The Atomic Testing Museum. It's strip central, just next to the LV Convention Center, and it was fantastic. So much information about this seldom experienced aspect of our modern history.
 
I enjoyed reading about your trip and gave me some ideas about when we get back out there.

Glad that you had a good time.
 
Glad you enjoyed your trip. We visited Las Vegas last summer, in the middle of 3-digit weather! Yet, Valley Of Fire was the most memorable place we visited because it was an absolute beauty. We stumbled upon Pastel Slot Canyon trail by chance (off Mouse Tank Rd) and walking between those colorful striped sandstones (red, pink, yellow, light brown, grey) took our breath away (well, the heat kinda did that, too, literally, lol).

If you’re in Vegas or passing through it, I highly recommend you visit this state park. It’s only 30 mins from the strip, $10 entrance fee per car, you can do scenic drive if you don’t hike (plenty of stops along the way to take pictures). We actually enjoyed it more than Red Rock Canyon.
 
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