Bonds/Clinton

azanon said:
I think the debate continues to this day whether he really had "sexual relations" with her, does it not?
Is foreplay only, sex?  What about just flirting?  Do backrubs count?  Someone clear this up for me. 

This one is easy... if you are married, will your wife think you are having 'sex'? If so, then you are... Clear?
 
Texas Proud said:
And then there is Wilt with an average of 50 points a game, 20 plus rebounds and 10 plus assists... or AVERAGING a triple double for a full season...
I didn't think that was the record he was famous for.  Those are basketball stats, right?
 
Even if those basketball stats were true, would that be a testament to how great some basketball players offenses were back then, or how far basketball defenses have come today? Its really besides my point. My point is there are several varables that are different today compared to 50 years ago, so you can't realistically compare statistics anyway. Sure, its fun to do just for entertainment purposes, but thats about it.

I'm a tennis player myself. In the old days, they had those wooden rackets so serves and the pace was slow. Now they have these advanced, light-weight, powerful rackets. There's just no way to compare.....
 
mickeyd said:
Are you sure about this? I think that Oscar Robertson was the only guy to average a triple double and  how could Wilt avarage 10 assists as a  center? Again, basketball stats only.

Yep, the memory is fuzzy....

He did average 50 PPG and 25.7 RPG, but only got 2.4 assists...

Year RPG APG PPG
59-60 27 2.3 37.6
60-61 27.2 1.9 38.4
61-62 25.7 2.4 50.4
62-63 24.3 3.4 44.8
63-64 22.3 5 36.9
64-65 22.9 3.4 34.7
65-66 24.6 5.2 33.5
66-67 24.2 7.8 24.1
67-68 23.8 8.6 24.3
68-69 21.1 4.5 20.5
69-70 18.4 4.1 27.3
70-71 18.2 4.3 20.7
71-72 19.2 4 14.8
72-73 18.6 4.5 13.2
Totals 22.9 4.4 30.1
 
mickeyd said:
Are you sure about this? I think that Oscar Robertson was the only guy to average a triple double and  how could Wilt avarage 10 assists as a  center? Again, basketball stats only.

NOPE, not sure... and I was NOT RIGHT.... But YOU ARE:


Year RPG APG PPG
60-61 10.1 9.7 30.5
61-62 12.5 11.4 30.8
62-63 10.4 9.5 28.3
63-64 9.9 11 31.4
64-65 9 11.5 30.4
65-66 7.7 11.1 31.3
66-67 6.2 10.7 30.5
67-68 6 9.7 29.2
68-69 6.4 9.8 24.7
69-70 6.1 8.1 25.3
70-71 5.7 8.2 19.4
71-72 5 7.7 17.4
72-73 4.9 7.5 15.5
 
Nords said:
I didn't think that was the record he was famous for.  Those are basketball stats, right?

Yes... it is another stat that he has claimed... but I think that Bill was on his way to try and break that one, but got caught :LOL:
 
...and the thing about Big O's record that is amazing is that no one really noticed it as a great achievement until recently when double-doubles, triple-doubles, etc were noted by current sports guys. Back in the NBA day, all anyone cared about was Wilt's scoring and Russel's defense.
 
So what the hell does this have to do with FIRE and Money? I thought I was going to read a thread about how bonds do well under Dem leadership or some damn thing.
 
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