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Hey, don't knock Cuba, there's 2 billion of them down there.
Good thing we didnt invade 40 years ago.
Hey, between the US and Cuba, we out populate China!
Hey, don't knock Cuba, there's 2 billion of them down there.
I hope that most people know they don't have to take some "clerk's" cockamamee decision as the final answer. Always appeal to the division of insurance immediately if you are not getting results. The division of insurance is a department of consumer advocacy. They are generally "on your side" until the unbiased third party team of physicians makes their final decision. Call a broker for help if you don't know what to do!
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But I guess they didn't do too badly in the end...
"Plaintiffs in the case claimed they had been left to pay crippling hospital bills -- some in excess of 100,000 dollars -- after Blue Cross had retrospectively cancelled medical coverage. Lawyer William Shernoff, who represents many of the plaintiffs, said his clients would not have to worry about paying medical bills ever again. "Every one of our clients is pleased," Shernoff was quoted as saying."
Not really....I was more or less being sarcastic here. It really irritates me that Michael Moore glamorizes the Cuban Medical system when, in fact, Cuban doctors are all but being held hostage by their system and paid barely enough to survive for all they do. It's no wonder many Cuban doctors are now trying to defect to America. Is that what Michael Moore wants to do to American healthcare providers? It's one thing to show one side of the story, but what about the other side? He has a real talent for leaving out the negative consequences of the single-payor system. The average American doesn't dig into detailed information...if you show them only the negatives, that's the picture left in their minds. For every negative story, I've got a great positive one. As an average American voter, I like to know both sides of the story. Why can't we see both sides? Why won't the media give any attention to the other side of the story? Let's see the negatives on BOTH sides of the fence.
Both sides to the story? Ok 45 million here in america without insurance. I HAVE supposedly great insurance and just this past month had to deal with idiotic BS from the insurance company on a procedure that MY physician did!!
Please the american for profit system when it comes to health care is screwed up. Cuba yes its a communist mess. However they treated the people from 9/11 that were brought there, stunt maybe BUT if we took those people to an american physician at an american hospital they would not have been seen without that insurance card! Or sent to the way back of the line as uninsured american and we will see you when and if there is time so long as you are not in an immediate crisis.
It's nice that you have these strong unfounded beliefs. Hospitals in Canada get paid by the insurance company just like on the US. If there is demand for more capacity, they build it because there is additional demand. Many hospitals aspire to become major referral centers.Yes, I am sure that single payor systems work wonderfully for routine, acute and relatively minor health problems. Fortunately, that kind of care will satisfy probably 80% or more of any population, and that's why single-payor systems are so well liked, because for the majority of minor health problems and even for acute care, they work great!
My concern is more for that 20% of the population that needs more than just routine care. IMO, that's when healthcare really matters.
I noticed a few things in the article needing clarification:For those who want to understand the Canadian system better, here is a story from one of the Washington rags:
The best solution: questions and answers on the Canadian health care system Washington Monthly - Find Articles
It's nice that you have these strong unfounded beliefs.
http://www.onthefencefilms.com/video/deadmeat/Well, my beliefs are not completely unfounded. Did you watch any of the videos or read any of the testimonials from some of my earlier posts?
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Holy cow, you're not doing yourself any favors with this "source". These guys are about as far out there as you can get without putting on a tin foil hat and waiting for the aliens to land. All of which will look exactly like Hitler.
This stuff is really good though...keep it coming. You cant pay for entertainment this good.
And I mentioned Hitler, which means this thread is legally ended.
Anecdotes do not make a story. They might create some entertaining passtimes but are a really lousy way to decide public policy, especially for life and death decisions. For example, Marie Therese wrote:Well, my beliefs are not completely unfounded. Did you watch any of the videos or read any of the testimonials from some of my earlier posts?
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and what about these stories? Are they completely false?
SOCIALIZED MEDICINE
Don't miss the audio clip of Thom Hartman Show, Air America, July 5, 2007 on this site. And BTW, Stuart Browning does not need to worry about his coverage anymore, because Embarcadero Technologies, Inc. is looking after him: Sample Contracts - Separation Agreement and General Release - Embarcadero Technologies Inc. and Stuart Browning - Competitive Intelligence for InvestorsIn his "documentary" Browning only highlights three cases. There are 76 videos on YouTube right now, outlining medical insurance horror stories in the United States.
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Here are a few of my own observations about the so-called "best health care system in the world:"
1. College student son of a friend suffered three strokes as a child of 3 months. He is moderately physically impaired. When he graduates in two years, there are many companies that will not hire him because he is a health risk. Cannot buy health insurance under the current system. Uninsurable.
2. 16 year old son of a good friend, diagnosed with a benign tumor on his spine. Tumor removed successfully. Tests reveal benign brain tumor, which must be monitored regularly by doctor. Now, at 20 years old, he is uninsurable.
3. Acquaintance in mid-50s, worth $2.5 million in property and trust funds. Anemic and overweight. Cannot find any company that will insure her, even though she's willing to pay for it. Uninsurable even though able to pay high premiums.
4. Adult piano student of mine fifteen years ago. Her mother and her two sisters lived into their nineties. All three women owned homes that were to be left to my student's two children as the only heirs. All three women needed long-term care. My student could not get Medicaid to pay until she had sold all three homes and used up the proceeds, thereby depriving her children of their inheritance.
5. I'm 59 years old. My health insurance premium is over $500.00 a month and does not cover my prescription eyeglasses. It covers 10% of basic dental. In three years I will not be able to afford the premium. Have received a letter recently telling me that if I'm late again with my payment, they reserve the right to cancel my coverage. I have paid tens of thousands of dollars to this insurance company for 32 years.
6. The HIPAA portability provisions do not extend to self-employed individuals. This means that I do not have the ability to move to a more affordable state unless I am willing to take the chance and live without health insurance since there is no portability guarantee.
There are millions of other Americans just like me out there, each with just as many or more "horror" stories.
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On the one hand, I have to say 'Thank God'
On the other hand, I have to point out that it's generally not an accepted use of Goodwin's Law to intentionally use it to stop a conversation, especially if you make the statement and then immediately invoke Goodwin's Law on yourself.
So, to get us all out of this sticky situation, I'd like to officially call Goodwin's Law on CFB. Thread adjourned.
So, to get us all out of this sticky situation, I'd like to officially call Goodwin's Law on CFB. Thread adjourned.
However they treated the people from 9/11 that were brought there, stunt maybe
Tell you what Mr NewGuy. Take a bunch of inner city kids in need of healthcare into Cuba, led by some no-name without a film crew or any indication of publicity in return. See what kind of service they get.
Breast implants inserted through the belly button?
oh dear god...the potential jokes are astronomical.
No need to wonder, their price list is right on the menu. Here is their ad, "As seen on Sicko." Open heart 9-15k, 3 day wait. Breast augmentation 1.5k, hip implant 6k, ... Oh, they arrange travel through Mexico. This is even more sicko.
Affordable Surgeries at world class hospitals without the wait - Planet Hospital
"Our people's poor health-care situation," they said, according to a State Department report, results in part from a decision by Castro's government "to divert scarce resources to meet the needs of the regime's elite and foreign patients who bring hard currency."
Actually, that sounds similar to the US system.
"Our people's poor health-care situation," they said, according to a State Department report, results in part from a decision by health care providers "to divert scarce resources to meet the needs of those who can pay and foreign patients who bring hard cash."