Fed up with my nephew.....!

4) Talk: Here is where our culture plays the most part. We aren´t as pragmatic or candid as you. Any sensible talk would be inmediately construed/interpreted in the sense that we don´t want him with us. More so, bearing in mind that my sister would have him with -prima facie- no problems, there is an opinion that his stay in my house is the natural thing. That´s what family is for.... And, to put it mildly, his mother is a bit too touchy and susceptible. I don´want to risk a confrontation with my brother.
So, for the near future, We´ll have to grin and bear it.
My spouse was stationed in Rota for several years in the early 1980s, renting rooms from a family out in town, and I spent a considerable amount of leave time there. Maybe that resembles your town, maybe not.

You've asked for proposed solutions to your situation, but implementing any of them is up to you. I would suspect that your constraints on your choices are imposed more by your personal opinions regarding your family than by your culture, but that's just my limited observations. And anyway your opinion is what counts. Whether you think you can or you think you can't, you're absolutely right.

And if you never try to nudge him toward the exit, then you may spend the next 24 months wondering whether you should change your mind...
 
Thanks everybody! I knew I could count on you.

I, more or less, guessed most of your suggestions.

1) Rules: I´ve instructed him on the basic ones to observe. But, for instance, I don´t really wanti him hanging around the house, which would be the case if I wake him up or want him home at reasonable hours. Mine is a smal house, in the sense that´s confortable for 2 person who get along.

2) The dog: We can´t have it bite him as a result of an accident. It´s quite old, pampered and starting to become irritable, scared and unaccostumed to changes. Our culture demands that we should have had the dog restrained. Nobody here would understand that a dog would condition my nephew´s mobility.

3) Chores: We have regular help that does almost everything, and everybody in the family knows it. To suddenly impose on him chores that we don´t do ourselves would give away true purpose of this attitude.

4) Talk: Here is where our culture plays the most part. We aren´t as pragmatic or candid as you. Any sensible talk would be inmediately construed/interpreted in the sense that we don´t want him with us. More so, bearing in mind that my sister would have him with -prima facie- no problems, there is an opinion that his stay in my house is the natural thing. That´s what family is for.... And, to put it mildly, his mother is a bit too touchy and susceptible. I don´want to risk a confrontation with my brother.

5) Making his stay unconfortable: We have used a series of tricks, but he either adapts or doesn´t care. It´s like dealing with an octopus: there is always a tentacle that clings.

The key -unsolvable- points are his unemployment and his girlfriend. More to the point: The real obstacle is the girlfriend, who is a student with at least 2 years left till she gets her law degree and not plannning to go anywhere....

So, for the near future, We´ll have to grin and bear it.
Vicente, have you ever noticed that your entire life seems to be riddled with unsolvable problems?

You really should take Wahoo's suggestion and see a therapist, although you may drive her to drink.

Buck up buddy!

Ha
 
Here's a thought: Sell the house and tell the buyers the nephew conveys along with the washer and dryer.

;)
 
Vicente,

Why do you and your wife have to worry about what your other family members may think of you, but they don't seem to have to worry about what you think of their actions? This seems terribly unfair.

I suspect that people will agree, from China, to Africa, to Europe, to America, that it is never fair to saddle someone with an unasked-for, long-term guest.

Amethyst
 
Vicente,

Why do you and your wife have to worry about what your other family members may think of you, but they don't seem to have to worry about what you think of their actions? This seems terribly unfair.

I suspect that people will agree, from China, to Africa, to Europe, to America, that it is never fair to saddle someone with an unasked-for, long-term guest.

Amethyst

Purrfect.
 
Here's a thought: Sell the house and tell the buyers the nephew conveys along with the washer and dryer.

;)

I was going to suggest that Vincente, his lovely wife and poor dog move in with the kid's parents - until the kid leaves their home. This genteel Spanish hospitality could be a double edged sword. :angel:
 
W2R said:
I'd set down some strict household rules, and send a copy of them in a friendly email to his parents as well as to him. Nobody could object to a long term guest being required to follow reasonable rules, IMO. And once he sees this list, he may be inspired to move out quickly. That way you won't have to kick him out.

Yep, yep, yep! I did the same to my 32 year old niece and she found alternative housing. :D. We are still on good terms. She wants to return and frequently asks but I remind her of the rules and she decides against it. :D

Also, she is allergic to my dogs and wanted ME to change things (keep them confined, off the furniture, etc.) but that wasn't happening.
 
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Vicente, have you ever noticed that your entire life seems to be riddled with unsolvable problems?

You really should take Wahoo's suggestion and see a therapist, although you may drive her to drink.

Buck up buddy!

Ha

I´m too depressed to follow REW´s sensible advice and, anyway, I think I have a pretty accurate idea of what the therapist is going to tell me: 1) take up an absorbing hobby 2) light daily exercise 3) some relaxing meditation 4) do some kind of volunteering 5) stop pitying yourself 6) look around you and notice people with more reasons than you to feel depressed 7) adopt a positive attitude in life, positive thoughts 8) change your habits of sleeping 9) join a club, community center 10) be outdoors, take long walks, 11) set yourself a challenging goal.....
I could come up with more, but I´m too depressed to think them up...
 
I was going to suggest that Vincente, his lovely wife and poor dog move in with the kid's parents - until the kid leaves their home. This genteel Spanish hospitality could be a double edged sword. :angel:

What.... Change my beautiful coastal village with its balmy weather for a dormitory city from which to commute to and from Madrid and with no character.....That would be truly extreme:)!
 
I´m too depressed to follow REW´s sensible advice and, anyway, I think I have a pretty accurate idea of what the therapist is going to tell me: 1) take up an absorbing hobby 2) light daily exercise 3) some relaxing meditation 4) do some kind of volunteering 5) stop pitying yourself 6) look around you and notice people with more reasons than you to feel depressed 7) adopt a positive attitude in life, positive thoughts 8) change your habits of sleeping 9) join a club, community center 10) be outdoors, take long walks, 11) set yourself a challenging goal.....
I could come up with more, but I´m too depressed to think them up...

Vicente, I'm going to chime in one last time, then move on: it is entirely likely your depression stems from some sort of chemical imbalance. I've seen it happen to someone very close to me who was placed on an antidepressant by a physician and the results were remarkable.

From over here it is difficult to understand why you won't make an effort to improve your situation and seek a medical evaluation. What do you have to lose? Certainly not your happiness...

I'm done now.
 
Vicente,

Why do you and your wife have to worry about what your other family members may think of you, but they don't seem to have to worry about what you think of their actions? This seems terribly unfair.

I suspect that people will agree, from China, to Africa, to Europe, to America, that it is never fair to saddle someone with an unasked-for, long-term guest.

Amethyst

Here in Spain it is assumed that family has to put up with a lot, and, for them, hosting "now and then" a nephew is nothing to get upset about. It´s something that you take in stride.They say that they would happily do the same for me. But of couse I wouldn´t allow my son to crash whenever he liked in my siblings´s houses for the reasons that my nephew does: just to be with his girlfriend
 
Vicente, I'm going to chime in one last time, then move on: it is entirely likely your depression stems from some sort of chemical imbalance. I've seen it happen to someone very close to me who was placed on an antidepressant by a physician and the results were remarkable.

From over here it is difficult to understand why you won't make an effort to improve your situation and seek a medical evaluation. What do you have to lose? Certainly not your happiness...

I'm done now.
Your point has been taken. Some of my reasons are in my response to HaHa. I think that no therapist -on whom I don´t beleive too much- will be able to help me. Don´t get me wrong: I pay a lot of attention to all your suggestions on this board.
 
Tell him to move in with his GF....


On another note.... it would depend on his attitude.... if he helped around the house, did his share of work, PAID for his food etc. etc. etc.... it would make a world of difference...

I never let him stay at my house, but my nephew went through 3 aunts before he was shipped out for good... he would just be lazy and not do anything.... he expected his aunts to cook, clean, do his laundry and he could lazy around and play his guitar and do nothing...

He was smart enough to not even ask me... (to tell the truth, he is very smart and could do a lot for himself.... but hey, to each his own)...
 
Your point has been taken. Some of my reasons are in my response to HaHa. I think that no therapist -on whom I don´t beleive too much- will be able to help me. Don´t get me wrong: I pay a lot of attention to all your suggestions on this board.

Vicente, a doctor will give you medications to combat your depression. This will help. Then, when you are no longer depressed and your judgment is clearer than it might be now, you can re-evaluate and decide whether or not you want to continue with them.

Or, you can just remain depressed and miserable. It's your life, and you only get one so do what you want.
 
I have nothing else to add...great ideas to solve the issue are already written here.

No matter what, the nephew has to go. His behavior is unacceptable.
If the nephew refuses to leave after a calm discussion, then change the locks and do not issue him a new key. If other family members object, then tell them directly that he is welcome to live with them. You and your wife have already done more for this loafer than many here would have.
 
I see that some of you are getting as fed up with me as I of my nephew. Next time i post I¨ll be the chirpy, cheery, easygoing guy this Forum deserves:).

Note: My nephew has left, but not for good. He´ll be back again, sooner rather than later.
 
Now I'm curious. Would you care to share with us what caused him to leave?

omni

He just went when it was convenient for him -and his girlfriend- to do so. Not out of any sense that he vas over-staying. Maybe he thought that it was time he shared his company with someone else, mainly his parents.
 
He just went when it was convenient for him -and his girlfriend- to do so. Not out of any sense that he vas over-staying. Maybe he thought that it was time he shared his company with someone else, mainly his parents.
What are you going to do with the room he was using? Have you considered using it in a way that makes it not available if he wants to return?
 
What are you going to do with the room he was using? Have you considered using it in a way that makes it not available if he wants to return?

+1

I can tell you, this works. When I went to college, I came back home for Thanksgiving the first year and my bedroom had been turned into a den with a really uncomfortable fold out sofa/bed. I didn't come back too often after that. Especially when the bed folded itself up when DW (GF at the time) and I were making out on it. It's amazing she ever married me.
 
+1

I can tell you, this works. When I went to college, I came back home for Thanksgiving the first year and my bedroom had been turned into a den with a really uncomfortable fold out sofa/bed. I didn't come back too often after that. Especially when the bed folded itself up when DW (GF at the time) and I were making out on it. It's amazing she ever married me.
harley, I feel you pain. I got home one night after a 750 mile drive, only to find some other SOB in my bed. I was not pleased.

Ha
 
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