What was your COVID news for the day?

[NW-Bound]

I did not notice that about Spaniards the times I went there.

I found it alarming that these Brits acted so belligerently in a foreign country and blatantly disobeyed the local laws. By the way, I found these stories on UK newspaper Web sites.

 

[Aerides]

This is so annoying. They weren't collecting entrance fees. They could just prohibit camping. I don't know anything terrible about letting people snowshoe or hike. Estes Park is welcome to shut down all their restaurants and hotels, but I don't understand why their wishes to close a national park prevail.

Yes annoying but understandable. Remember during the Gov. Shutdown at the start of 2019? Parks were not staffed but kept open. People are terrible so they made a mess everywhere.

And people are not distancing. They are hanging out in parks and hiking trails packed in like nothing is going on. In order to prohibit camping you'd have to have staff resourced to stop them, and to confront them when they do it anyway, etc. Just like the FL beaches are now closed, but that means cops have to be on duty 24/7 blocking every beach entrance.

 

[Nemo2]

I found it alarming that these Brits acted so belligerently in a foreign country

Reliving long past glories of a defunct empire.

 

[folivier]

There are quite a few of people who live full-time in their RV's who are having difficulty finding places to park. Some states are rethinking closing all of their state parks and now re-opening them. Lots of different problems out there.

 

[NW-Bound]

AZ so far has only 104 confirmed cases. That's nothing compared to NY with more than 12,000 cases and with more crowding conditions. But I just saw an article in the local paper that run down the list of these cases and talked briefly about each. That is of course not possible when you have a lot more than 100 cases.

What concerns me more now is that many of the cases showed up in the last 2 weeks, and were not traceable. Officials agree that this means "community spread" already happened here in AZ. And they say there's no point in telling what areas are infected because it does not matter anymore.

I will be watching to see how the number multiplies up from here.

 

[garyt]

It read great at first in spite of the dubious hot climate claim. But then I started reading the comments. The stats above were taken to task in one reply so I’m not sure of his conclusions. And many other fallacies and odd conclusions pointed out. And I do think there is political spin pushing some of his conclusions and the end of the article called for political action.

Just reading it, it was reassuring. But then you realize he has no credentials and as you read on he has a definite political slant. That makes me suspicious. Also, as you stated the comments add doubt. Not sure if it were in the comments there or I read it somewhere else but this made sense.
Your own Dr. and Dr. Fauci will tell you the same things, then you have this guy. Who are you going to believe?

 

[ncbill]

Our local TV station has a list on its website of all restaurants remaining open for takeout/delivery.

I was amused to see one offering 15% off food, but also 25% off bottles of wine!

 

[NW-Bound]

... Your own Dr. and Dr. Fauci will tell you the same things, then you have this guy. Who are you going to believe?

I have not talked to my doctor, and he is not an authority on pandemic anyway.

I listen to Dr. Fauci.

 

[Another Reader]

AZ so far has only 104 confirmed cases. That's nothing compared to NY with more than 12,000 cases and with more crowding conditions. But I just saw an article in the local paper that run down the list of these cases and talked briefly about each. That is of course not possible when you have a lot more than 100 cases.

What concerns me more now is that many of the cases showed up in the last 2 weeks, and were not traceable. Officials agree that this means "community spread" already happened here in AZ. And they say there's no point in telling what areas are infected because it does not matter anymore.

I will be watching to see how the number multiplies up from here.

Since Arizona is behind the epidemic curve and I'm over 65 and living in California, I have been thinking of moving camp to the vacant property in Arizona. That way, if I got sick, I would have a better chance of getting a ventilator.

 

[gauss]

I wrote the following email to a friend regarding data that I saw today suggesting we might be starting to see a turn in the CV in the USA. I apologize if this has already been discussed here and I missed it.

-gauss

I found the following for the US:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

The first chart that interested me was entitled
Total Coronavirus Cases in the United States
and I viewed it on their logarithmic scale. I thought I noticed a change in trajectory in the most recent data (3/21).

I scrolled down a bit and found the chart
Daily New Cases in the United States
and the blip that I saw in the first chart was definitely more visible in this chart.

Now I am wondering if we are seeing the first signs in the data of our nationwide "Social Distancing" policies. The time lag would be about right.

Or it may just be a one day anomaly, perhaps a weekly bias in the data having to do with the weekend or something and the exponential growth will continue on Monday.

Either way, I found it very interesting and thought you would also.

You might want to keep a tuned eye/ear to this for any further discussion in the media.

Early next week will be very telling if this data is updated here.

 

[gwraigty]

https://medium.com/six-four-six-nine/evidence-over-hysteria-covid-19-1b767def5894

“If you have a COVID-19 patient in your household, your risk of developing the infection is about 10%….If you were casually exposed to the virus in the workplace (e.g., you were not locked up in conference room for six hours with someone who was infected [like a hospital]), your chance of infection is about 0.5%”

The least political/hyped article I have read so far.

Here's what I got when I clicked that link:

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This post is under investigation or was found in violation of the Medium Rules.

 

[mountainsoft]

My wife and I went to the park yesterday and walked the mile around the lake. Beautiful day, with hundreds of other people who had the same idea. Everyone was polite and kept their distance whenever possible. I didn't use the restrooms but noticed they were still open.

Afterwards my wife and I picked up some burgers and fries from the drive-through at the local burger joint, then went back to the park and found an isolated picnic table to eat lunch next to the lake. It's the closest thing to a date we can do right now.

It was a nice day, but there were a LOT more people out than expected. The pollen around here is really bad though, so my wife and I both came home with itchy eyes and scratchy throats. Still, it was worth it to get out for some fresh air and sunshine.

 

[Fermion]

Washington state is getting some really nice weather. Here in eastern Washington it is supposed to be 60 degrees today and partly sunny. Maybe time for a mountain hike and forget about the virus for a day.

 

[audreyh1]

I did not notice that about Spaniards the times I went there.

I found it alarming that these Brits acted so belligerently in a foreign country and blatantly disobeyed the local laws. By the way, I found these stories on UK newspaper Web sites.

I think young British tourists are famous for behaving badly in Spain as cities like Barcelona are popular destinations from stag and hen parties.

We were in a hotel room above a side street in Granada near a busy area, and I often heard yelled conversations across the street below our window - locals who knew each other, yelled greetings, caught up on family and local news for a while before moving on.

 

[Rianne]

My wife and I went to the park yesterday and walked the mile around the lake. Beautiful day, with hundreds of other people who had the same idea. Everyone was polite and kept their distance whenever possible. I didn't use the restrooms but noticed they were still open.

Afterwards my wife and I picked up some burgers and fries from the drive-through at the local burger joint, then went back to the park and found an isolated picnic table to eat lunch next to the lake. It's the closest thing to a date we can do right now.

It was a nice day, but there were a LOT more people out than expected. The pollen around here is really bad though, so my wife and I both came home with itchy eyes and scratchy throats. Still, it was worth it to get out for some fresh air and sunshine.

Lovely! Our weather is terrible. Rain, cloudy, cold. Just won't let up, cannot wait to see the sun! I'm heading to the forest preserves when the sun comes out.

 

[jim584672]

AZ so far has only 104 confirmed cases. That's nothing compared to NY with more than 12,000 cases and with more crowding conditions. But I just saw an article in the local paper that run down the list of these cases and talked briefly about each. That is of course not possible when you have a lot more than 100 cases.

What concerns me more now is that many of the cases showed up in the last 2 weeks, and were not traceable. Officials agree that this means "community spread" already happened here in AZ. And they say there's no point in telling what areas are infected because it does not matter anymore.

I will be watching to see how the number multiplies up from here.

NY is conducting a lot more testing since the state took over the testing with permission from the Feds. Other states probably have much higher numbers but without a test we just don't know.

 

[NW-Bound]

I wrote the following email to a friend regarding data that I saw today suggesting we might be starting to see a turn in the CV in the USA. I apologize if this has already been discussed here and I missed it.

-gauss

One day does not make a trend, unfortunately.

You can go to Italy, and see the same thing. Dipped down one day, just to rebound stronger the next day. And it happened several times.

PS. Same thing with Spain and France. Switzerland had a hugely anomalous day.

 

[sengsational]

Here's what I got when I clicked that link:

Keep scrolling. The article is being hosted elsewhere.

Any article that includes this is not only bad, it’s also dangerous. When the subject is medicine, we really need qualified sources.

Agreed. This is "just a guy" who's reporting things that might look legitimate, but many are quite goofy speculation or ideas floated early in the pandemic that may have been plausible at that point, but have since been debunked.

 

[NW-Bound]

Since Arizona is behind the epidemic curve and I'm over 65 and living in California, I have been thinking of moving camp to the vacant property in Arizona. That way, if I got sick, I would have a better chance of getting a ventilator.

Be careful where you get sick in AZ. We have only 1.9 beds per 1000 people, compared to 2.4 for the whole country. And I suspect the number in rural areas is even worse, because people usually go to Phoenix or Tucson for treatments of elective or serious chronic conditions. Rural area hospitals may not have all the specialists and equipment that large city hospitals do, hence have fewer beds.

And then, the lower number simply means that we are behind some other states by just a few days with this exponential growth. If you get here, you'd better get sick quick to get a room.

PS. By the way, another Web site shows the US at 2.8 beds per 1000 (not 2.4), while Italy is at 3.4.

 

[ElizabethT]

Hot water heater broke, because apparently there is not enough stress in my life right now. .

A live person answered the phone, walked me through shutting off the hot water heater water valve, and then carefully walked me through how the replacement process would occur tomorrow morning, in order to ensure no contact between technician and ourselves. I'm relieved of course, and enormously appreciate they are still working, but it was another stark reminder of how much things have changed.

 

[Ready]

Does anyone have any insights on when we will no longer have a severe shortage of basic supplies in the stores, like hand sanitizer, toilet paper, paper towels, disinfectant wipes, etc?

 

[Sunset]

Nope, but if all stores would ration these items to 1 per shopper, then the supply would last longer, and encourage people to return to the same store.

I know If I go to a store and there is none there, I won't be returning to that store for a while, as I will go to a different store in the hope of finding it at a different store.

It's in a store long term self interest to ration these items.

 

[Sunset]

I did read Costco is not accepting returns of these things, and Amazon shutdown thousands of reseller price gougers.

So people are being refused their returns at Costco, hope they enjoy their pile of TP in the garage

 

[gailwinters]

DD and DSIL went hiking yesterday, as they normally do on a Saturday. It was a nice day, and she said there were tons more people than usual, and most of them were not practicing social distancing. She and SIL cut their hike short.

They are doing our shopping today. We thought about running into a grocery store for the few items we needed, but since they offered, we decided to take them up on it. They will drop at the front door and we will sanitize before bringing into the house.

 

[fh2000]

Watched some videos from youtube. People in Beijing started to go out to parks. Country side life from remote provinces basically return to normal. Many people in traditional markets shopping. All pharmacies, stores have a sign saying, they now have new shipment of masks, sanitizers, 70% alcohol. This is exactly 2 months since Wuhan sealed off the city on 1/23/20.

I hope that we can return to normal in US 2 months from the date 'state at home' order was issued around 3/16.