Lots of good news today

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I didn't listen to it, but I'm sure he knows it all. Everybody says they do. We're still waiting for the HUGE surge that was supposed to happen after school started a month and a half ago. All the experts *knew* it would happen. Then when it was late, they all said the kids were asymptomatic and their parnts had to catch it before the surge, thus a couple of weeks delay. Nope, nothing.

I hope your post above doesn't turn out to be a coronavirus "Wheee!!"

U.S. Records Highest Number Of Coronavirus Cases In 1 Day Since Pandemic Began

The United States hit a record high number of confirmed daily coronavirus cases Friday, recording more than 83,000 new cases, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. The number surpasses the previous record of more than 77,000 cases in mid-July.
 
Our state numbers have been going up, and the uptrend started when schools, particularly colleges, started up again for the fall. There have been a number of college campus outbreaks in the state. I guess the good news is that, except in a few towns that were largely spared in April, actual community spread is still limited. I'm hoping that we can make it through Thanksgiving without a large surge.
 
I hope your post above doesn't turn out to be a coronavirus "Wheee!!"

U.S. Records Highest Number Of Coronavirus Cases In 1 Day Since Pandemic Began


But even in that article there is good news:

Despite the rise in cases, there has been some good news. Two peer-reviewed studies recently showed a drop in mortality among patients hospitalized with COVID-19, suggesting health care workers have gotten better at helping patients survive the disease. One study found that the mortality rate among hospitalized patients dropped from 25.6 percent to 7.6 percent.
 
Our state numbers have been going up, and the uptrend started when schools, particularly colleges, started up again for the fall. There have been a number of college campus outbreaks in the state. I guess the good news is that, except in a few towns that were largely spared in April, actual community spread is still limited. I'm hoping that we can make it through Thanksgiving without a large surge.

I think the college kids getting it at college and then isolating there while they recover is a good thing. The youngs do appear to be handling the virus well all things considered, reducing risk to family when they return home.

There are some recent clear studies to the effect that school kids k-12 are not becoming infected or spreading the virus much. I will find and post.

The good news is unstoppable ;).
 
Only three states now where Rt is below 1.0 so there is still quite a lot of spreading going on. I guess the good news is that it's more widespread without the extreme hot spots we had earlier.

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I didn't listen to it, but I'm sure he knows it all. Everybody says they do. We're still waiting for the HUGE surge that was supposed to happen after school started a month and a half ago. All the experts *knew* it would happen. Then when it was late, they all said the kids were asymptomatic and their parents had to catch it before the surge, thus a couple of weeks delay. Nope, nothing.

Can't comment on this but, in general, Covid has humbled (or should have humbled) every expert. There were so many unknown unknowns that no one got it right - still aren't getting it right but getting closer and getting better.

I see THAT as the good news. We are learning - often the hard way - how it spreads, what helps those with infections, how to avoid infection, who it attacks/affects the most, etc. etc. Those who claim they KNOW about this disease are fooling at least themselves in my opinion. Let us hope and pray that those working on the various vaccines will turn out to have been "right." THAT would be good news indeed though YMMV.
 
Where I work is currently Covid admission free. The first time since March.
 
Our state numbers have been going up, and the uptrend started when schools, particularly colleges, started up again for the fall. There have been a number of college campus outbreaks in the state. I guess the good news is that, except in a few towns that were largely spared in April, actual community spread is still limited. I'm hoping that we can make it through Thanksgiving without a large surge.

I think the college kids getting it at college and then isolating there while they recover is a good thing. The youngs do appear to be handling the virus well all things considered, reducing risk to family when they return home.

There are some recent clear studies to the effect that school kids k-12 are not becoming infected or spreading the virus much. I will find and post.

The good news is unstoppable ;).

There's an article out there about Lacrosse, WI, a college town.

Spread started when the kids returned to campus and has spread to other age groups, including people at retirement homes.

College students are a big transmission vector, probably the big surge in Europe in the late summer and now currently is being driven by young adults socializing with very little caution.
 
But even in that article there is good news:
Despite the rise in cases, there has been some good news. Two peer-reviewed studies recently showed a drop in mortality among patients hospitalized with COVID-19, suggesting health care workers have gotten better at helping patients survive the disease. One study found that the mortality rate among hospitalized patients dropped from 25.6 percent to 7.6 percent.
That the mortality rate for those hospitalized has dropped so much is indeed great news. But gosh - 25.6% mortality was a huge number! 7.6% is way better, but still considerable.
 
There's an article out there about Lacrosse, WI, a college town.

Spread started when the kids returned to campus and has spread to other age groups, including people at retirement homes.

College students are a big transmission vector, probably the big surge in Europe in the late summer and now currently is being driven by young adults socializing with very little caution.

“Heat maps” in England clearly show how students returning to college became infected first and then the disease spreading over time to older age groups, although not to the young kids.
 

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Isn't this supposed to be a good news thread?

Perhaps the "we are all going to die" posts could be made in any one of the other 15 pages of covid threads?
 
I believe the paused vaccine trials are back on.
I also read an article where Dr Fauci believes a vaccine will be available end of December, but not widely available until later in 2021. I will try to find it.
 
Isn't this supposed to be a good news thread?

Perhaps the "we are all going to die" posts could be made in any one of the other 15 pages of covid threads?

+1

I think this thread is an ambush, and these Debbie Downers are all clinically depressed and waiting for any happy post to pounce on and demolish. How dare anybody post good news in a good news thread? :LOL:
 
I believe the paused vaccine trials are back on.
I also read an article where Dr Fauci believes a vaccine will be available end of December, but not widely available until later in 2021. I will try to find it.

My 77-year-old brother has been participating in the Pfizer vaccine trials for several weeks. I didn't know anything about the pause. Anyway, he has great hopes and they check on his condition regularly. He was checked for COVID initially (and did not have it), and he has no side effects so far. There is a 50% chance that he got the placebo and he doesn't know yet.
 
I believe the paused vaccine trials are back on.
I also read an article where Dr Fauci believes a vaccine will be available end of December, but not widely available until later in 2021. I will try to find it.

He did indeed say that in an interview today with the BBC. Good news indeed.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-54680499

Dr Anthony Fauci says a Covid-19 vaccine could be available in the United States before the end of the year if proved to be "safe and effective".
The US government scientist told the BBC's Andrew Marr that the limited first doses would go to people according to a set prioritisation – and that it would take "several months into 2021" before it was more widely available.
He added that the vaccine wouldn't replace the need for public health measures to be in place to help protect people from the virus for a considerable time.
 
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I believe the paused vaccine trials are back on.
I also read an article where Dr Fauci believes a vaccine will be available end of December, but not widely available until later in 2021. I will try to find it.

Indeed. AztraZeneca and JNJs trials both restarting after being paused when a volunteer in the AstraZeneca trial died.

The person who died received the placebo, not the vaccine candidate, just to be clear.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-10-astrazeneca-jj-vaccine-trials-track.html
 
My 77-year-old brother has been participating in the Pfizer vaccine trials for several weeks. I didn't know anything about the pause. Anyway, he has great hopes and they check on his condition regularly. He was checked for COVID initially (and did not have it), and he has no side effects so far. There is a 50% chance that he got the placebo and he doesn't know yet.

Pfizer's was not paused. There are over 100 potential vaccines on various stages of development.

Pauses happen. They are part of ensuring safety and effectiveness of vaccines. This has been invisible to most of us until recently.

This is just the sausage-making of getting to a cure.
 
Perhaps we can consider these pauses, in and of themselves, good news. I’ve read elsewhere and in comments on ER.org, a suspicion that these vaccines are coming to market without science based backing. Comments like, “I’ll only take the vaccine that Fauci takes”. Or, “only the one that’s based on science”. I’ve no idea what these fears are based upon. I can’t imagine the motivation to pause a vaccine trial unless it is following a scientific process.
 
.......... I’ve no idea what these fears are based upon. I can’t imagine the motivation to pause a vaccine trial unless it is following a scientific process.
PM me, I'll explain it to you.
 
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