Covid Vaccine Distribution

[Time2]

I live in a county of 100,000 people in Fl. We have two hospitals. I ask on a local NEXTDOOR group if our hospitals had proper freezer storage for Pfizer's vaccine. I didn't get an answer to the question.
So, I called the local TV station and ask if they were checking on this. They said the hospitals are not answering questions on this until the second wave of vaccines. I said, it seems like there should be some preparation before the second wave. The reporter agreed and said we will continue asking. She sounded as if it was something on the front burner.
I wonder if the hospitals are waiting to know if they will get the vaccine before they invest in freezers.

And 8 hours later our local newspaper reports that both of out hospitals
could get Covid-19 Vaccine next week. They said it would be the Moderna Vacciine. The 100 plus hospitals that didn't get the first allocation of the Pfizer Vaccine will get this one.

 

[KM]

Very excited...DD is getting her first dose tomorrow. She works in a very large hospital and they are starting to administer to staff. Given she is a Type 1 diabetic and has Type A blood...I’ve been very worried about her from the start. She says they are very protected when seeing patients, but two of her co-workers were diagnosed this past week (picked up from places outside the hospital), so imo she can’t get vaccinated soon enough....

 

[harllee]

Very excited...DD is getting her first dose tomorrow. She works in a very large hospital and they are starting to administer to staff. Given she is a Type 1 diabetic and has Type A blood...I’ve been very worried about her from the start. She says they are very protected when seeing patients, but two of her co-workers were diagnosed this past week (picked up from places outside the hospital), so imo she can’t get vaccinated soon enough....

So glad your daughter is getting the vaccine. And thank her for her hard work.

 

[harllee]

6 doses in each 5 dose vial from Pfizer. Sometimes 7! So we have more available doses!! Woohoo!

https://www.abc10.com/amp/article/n...oses/507-65215ca0-1d6c-4f65-bdf0-2e1535a804d7

Just read this Article. How could this happen? Strange but good news.

 

[audreyh1]

Thanks. Have a good friend I'm seeing later today that has autoimmune issues. Will tell him.

I think the issue is whether someone is taking immunosuppressive drugs for their autoimmune condition. I have a minor autoimmune condition, but take no treatment, so my immune system is not suppressed. I’m not at worse COVID-19 risk, and I have read some stuff that indicates thyroiditis is not associated greater COVID-19 risk.

 

[Sunset]

Dr. Fauci has said that he expects that vaccinations should be available to everyone by April. That's good enough for me.

I think Dr. Fauci has been great. However, I think there are a lot of people in the chain of delivery, who have the opportunity to screw it up a lot.

I will be ecstatically happy if we are all done by April. (at least the remaining living).

 

[Ronstar]

Vaccine distribution in Illinois has hit a snag. Illinois will get only half the number of doses as they were told.

https://patch.com/illinois/chicago/...Dmv85Wf60IvmVdB5GUBeGzeBYn88f0d7gvbWI3un5__N0

 

[JoeWras]

Vaccine distribution in Illinois has hit a snag. Illinois will get only half the number of doses as they were told.

https://patch.com/illinois/chicago/...Dmv85Wf60IvmVdB5GUBeGzeBYn88f0d7gvbWI3un5__N0

So I hope Fauci is right about April, but I'm having doubts. The numbers for Pfizer and Moderna are not adding up. Presumably, the other vaccines which are easier to store and distribute will come on line. However, many of those have a long way to go towards approval. Of course, he has more information so I'll trust he's got a good handle on it.

When those roll out, be prepared for people complaining they got the 70% version instead of the 95% version.

 

[Alan]

So I hope Fauci is right about April, but I'm having doubts. The numbers for Pfizer and Moderna are not adding up. Presumably, the other vaccines which are easier to store and distribute will come on line. However, many of those have a long way to go towards approval. Of course, he has more information so I'll trust he's got a good handle on it.

When those roll out, be prepared for people complaining they got the 70% version instead of the 95% version.

I think he said that enough doses will be available by April, not necessarily that the States will have administered them all by then.

 

[harllee]

I think the issue is whether someone is taking immunosuppressive drugs for their autoimmune condition. I have a minor autoimmune condition, but take no treatment, so my immune system is not suppressed. I’m not at worse COVID-19 risk, and I have read some stuff that indicates thyroiditis is not associated greater COVID-19 risk.

Yes-- for my DH I think the main issue for him is that he takes 2 drugs that suppress his immune system--Humira and Methotrexate. Pre-pandemic he was constantly sick with colds, sinus infection, stomach bugs, flu, etc. He has no sicknesses since March. We have learned that he should wear a mask and avoid crowds even after the pandemic is resolved if he wants to stay healthy.

 

[MrsHaloFIRE]

As far as the 6 doses in a 5 dose vial, I think it happens bc they overfill the vials intentionally. I had to use an autoinjector pen and even though it was say 50 mL it actually contained more like 52 because you waste a little when you dial up the first dose to get the air bubble to leave. Folks who take expensive meds often know exactly how much is really in the vial/autoinjector.

 

[Aerides]

Vaccine distribution in Illinois has hit a snag. Illinois will get only half the number of doses as they were told.

I'm not terribly worried about these initial distribution snags (though, expect a lot more articles like this over the next week or so). It's new, and it's happening at the peak shipping season of the year. UPS and Fedex are heavily involved in the distribution when they are already stretched to the seams.

Come January, initial glitches will resolve, capacity will increase. By the time we masses are eligible, more than likely, these growing pains should be well in the rear view mirror.

 

[RetireBy90]

I'm not terribly worried about these initial distribution snags (though, expect a lot more articles like this over the next week or so). It's new, and it's happening at the peak shipping season of the year. UPS and Fedex are heavily involved in the distribution when they are already stretched to the seams.

Come January, initial glitches will resolve, capacity will increase. By the time we masses are eligible, more than likely, these growing pains should be well in the rear view mirror.

+1


Who was it that said we all have a plan till you get punched in the face, or something like that. I'm amazed at the preparation and planning that has taken place and grateful to the gov and private sector folks that are running the railroad. However when you do your first real run part of your plan should be to expect problems and I'm sure it is in this case.

 

[harllee]

I am hopeful that my high risk husband and mother will get the vaccine at least by March. I hope that I get it by summer. I am trying to being realistic in my hopes because I saw how hard it was to get the Shingrix vaccine distributed a few years ago. It is a massive undertaking.

 

[audreyh1]

I'm not terribly worried about these initial distribution snags (though, expect a lot more articles like this over the next week or so). It's new, and it's happening at the peak shipping season of the year. UPS and Fedex are heavily involved in the distribution when they are already stretched to the seams.

Come January, initial glitches will resolve, capacity will increase. By the time we masses are eligible, more than likely, these growing pains should be well in the rear view mirror.

Yeah - pretty much. I'm more worried about enough total vaccine being available in the US so that I don't have to wait too long.

 

[Chuckanut]

I'm not terribly worried about these initial distribution snags (though, expect a lot more articles like this over the next week or so). It's new, and it's happening at the peak shipping season of the year. UPS and Fedex are heavily involved in the distribution when they are already stretched to the seams.

Come January, initial glitches will resolve, capacity will increase. By the time we masses are eligible, more than likely, these growing pains should be well in the rear view mirror.

+1

There will be many glitches over the next few weeks, and probably well into January. Another recent problem is a batch of the vaccine being stored at too cold of a temperature (-133 degrees, IIRC). The vaccine is being returned and checked out. No doubt that problem will be resolved. The important thing is that the problem was caught before the vaccine was injected.

Prepare for social media to make a big deal about every little issue.

 

[sengsational]

I think pork processing workers should be first; the world can live without a lot of things, but it can't live without bacon.

 

[gerntz]

We live in the Sarasota area. My DW who has severe asthma and other issues just finished an appointment with her pulmonologist. She asked about the process of getting the vaccine. His response was a bit concerning, in that he knows nothing more that we do about how and when the mass vaccinations will occur. He said he gets that question from a dozen patients every day and hopes some guidance will be put out in the coming weeks. Also, there was a local TV news segment asking the health department about immunization procedures. They said the Federal Government and Florida State officials have not shared details on what the plan is going to look like. This does not bode well for a smooth process to immunize our citizens.

I don't see the problem. As far as I know, physician offices won't be giving the shots but rather pharmacies due to the storage requirements. So why would he know more than anyone else 4 days into early distribution to hospitals & nursing homes? As far as I know, health departments aren't going to be giving shots either. This feels like an overreaction concern level to me. Relax & give it a few weeks to work out.

 

[gerntz]

Vaccine distribution in Illinois has hit a snag. Illinois will get only half the number of doses as they were told.

https://patch.com/illinois/chicago/...Dmv85Wf60IvmVdB5GUBeGzeBYn88f0d7gvbWI3un5__N0

It couldn't possibly be that IL miss-interpreted the amount they would get initially? Net, not clear it's a snag at all.

 

[gerntz]

I think Dr. Fauci has been great. However, I think there are a lot of people in the chain of delivery, who have the opportunity to screw it up a lot.

I will be ecstatically happy if we are all done by April. (at least the remaining living).

Fauci has done well but not perfect. He's one person. There must be 100's of K's of people in the chain of delivery. Not one is permitted to screw up or they're actually human?

Where you got the idea it will all be done by April - meaning everyone who wants a vaccine will have it by then - I have no idea. Not happening. Lucky if it's done by Fall. And everyone should be ecstatically happy if that's the case.

 

[gerntz]

As far as the 6 doses in a 5 dose vial, I think it happens bc they overfill the vials intentionally. I had to use an autoinjector pen and even though it was say 50 mL it actually contained more like 52 because you waste a little when you dial up the first dose to get the air bubble to leave. Folks who take expensive meds often know exactly how much is really in the vial/autoinjector.

Err on the side of overfilling than not having the specified 5 doses. And perhaps that's a reason the counted inventory of doses may be smaller than originally projected.

 

[Dreamer]

I had a telephone appointment with my family doctor today. She told me that she received the vaccine shot a couple of days ago and the only reaction she had was a sore arm.

 

[goingtotravel]

But it's not known the vaccine per se caused the reaction. Just that B happened soon after A.

That might be true but I'll wait for science to decide what the issue was for the people that had the allergic reactions. Since I've had several ER visits getting shot of epinephrine so I could keep breathing and I'd prefer to avoid that happening again I will wait on the shot. And, yes, I know they have EpiPen's available for those getting vaccinated but I'm still waiting.

 

[bjorn2bwild]

DW has been temping at the local hospital to help with the recent surge.
Her position is classified as front-line so she received the first shot today. She was asked to wait 15min before leaving, then given an information sheet on how to sign up with V-Safe(app) through the CDC in order to record symptoms and receive updates.
PS - Three hours in and no problems, not even a sore arm.
PSS - A dose was set aside for her second shot.

 

[gerntz]

That might be true but I'll wait for science to decide what the issue was for the people that had the allergic reactions.

Me too. The issue I have is people jumping to conclusions vs. waiting.