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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
I, for one would not participate in a forum that was any less. Heck, I do have personal standards...Please present some evidence that supports that 'We're all above average here '.
I, for one would not participate in a forum that was any less. Heck, I do have personal standards...Please present some evidence that supports that 'We're all above average here '.
Please present some evidence that supports that 'We're all above average here '.
I, for one would not participate in a forum that was any less. Heck, I do have personal standards...
I didn't have to lower my standards to become a member of this forum, but luckily the admins agreed to lower the standards of the forum for me to join............
I was wondering if most of you step up and spend the extra money for organic procucts? Reading about Strawberries with 13 pesticides is crazy.
11 things you should buy organic on Shine
Conventional farmers tend to look down on organic farmers.
Organic produce tastes better.
... organic farming is better for our mother earth - the inordinate amount of pesticides poured onto our soils, in the ground water, run off etc is not something we should continue doing
7. We grow less gross bushels per acre on our land base than our conventional neighbours on average. ....
8. We consume a significant amount of fuel yes -
- I'm too lazy to cite the evidence but if you want to argue there's no evidence supporting pouring pesticides everywhere isn't harming anything, I'm pretty sure I disagree with you.
It wasn't my impression either until I began seeing some of the opinions posted by conventional farmers. I'd never given it much thought until the subject came up here and on the Ag forum at about the same time. This is an example of what I'm seeing. The discussion continues there if you're interested.What makes you say that? It isn't my impression at all, but it's not like I've funded a survey on it or anything. I do think that some people (farmers or not) take exception at some of the claims being made for organic.
It wasn't my impression either until I began seeing some of the opinions posted by conventional farmers. I'd never given it much thought until the subject came up here and on the Ag forum at about the same time. This is an example of what I'm seeing. The discussion continues there if you're interested.
Viewing a thread - What is wrong with Organic food?
....Interesting subject. Always enjoyable to learn.
Upon reflection, I don't have anything against organic food, and am happy for folks to produce, buy, and consume it if they choose. I do find I am continually frustrated by the fear-mongering and wanton disregard of science, fact, and reason in the discussion of organic vs. non-organic foodstuffs (from both sides).
Thanks for your thoughts.
Do farmers in Saskatchewan even grow corn(maize). Kind of dry out there isn't it?I have a rough idea of what the organic farmer faces in order to market his crop as 'organic'. They do receive more per bushel ( around $2/Bu. corn?), but I can see how their yield might at times be limited by the constraints of being organic.
I can't help but admire an organic farmer, especially one in Saskatchewan.
Do farmers in Saskatchewan even grow corn(maize). Kind of dry out there isn't it?
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Corn offers significant potential for production on irrigation in Saskatchewan. Variety selection based on the end use and CHU available for an area are the most important initial management decisions. Producers need to pay attention to weed control, fertility, and irrigation water management to ensure a successful crop and harvest.
I don't know, to be quite honest. It would need to be short maturity corn if it were. It seems I recall the Canadians discussing canola and wheat more than corn or soy beans.Do farmers in Saskatchewan even grow corn(maize). Kind of dry out there isn't it?
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It's dry and cold.Do farmers in Saskatchewan even grow corn(maize). Kind of dry out there isn't it?
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It's dry and cold.
I've seen a very few corn crops in Sask. but they are either cut for silage or left standing for cattle to eat during the winter. The growing season is too short (100 - 120 days) and to cool (very few days hotter than 80F) to grow grain corn.
Really? I'd challenge anyone to identify the organic produce in a blind test to some statistically significant degree. Like many others, you are probably attributing the taste to the produce being fresh and of a variety bred for taste over shipping/keeping qualities. Compare those same varieties, at the same freshness, with just "organic" being the variable, and see what you get. My garden tomatoes taste better than the store bought whether I throw "chemicals" on them or not.
-ERD50
I really admire your relentless pursuit of data to make your own decisions. But people are different that way and both styles of decisionmaking work to benefit humankind in many ways.
Yes - it is my humble opinion that it does.
ERD - I know it frustrates you to no end that someone like me can decide organic is better for myself
and I don't think people who disagree or have different decisionmaking styles are idiots and I hope you don't either.
I's like to see data that supports the notion that decisions made counter to (or in the absence of) factual data have ever benefitted humankind.
I never said I made my decisions with no factual evidence, in fact I dedicated several years of study to this. I just don't have the inclination to play data ping pong here. There is plenty of data online and you can decide what is right for you. I stated what I decided based on op's prompt...
I do have evidence - I'm too lazy to go find it
The answer to issue raised by your second sentence, is in the words I highlighted in the first one. Also, maybe you are not comparing the same varieties of each item; perhaps organic producers, who can charge premium prices, can also pass on the cost of using varieties which are inherently less productive but taste better. Or, maybe you buy your organic produce in a context which means that it's a day fresher. Whatever the reason in your case, properly designed scientific studies consistently show that the "organic" factor, on its own, makes no difference to taste or nutritional content.I do because I think many organic fruits and vegetables taste more like the veggies my parents and grandparents used to grow on the farm back home. I don't know what factors the difference in taste can be attributed to.
The answer to issue raised by your second sentence, is in the words I highlighted in the first one. Also, maybe you are not comparing the same varieties of each item; perhaps organic producers, who can charge premium prices, can also pass on the cost of using varieties which are inherently less productive but taste better. Or, maybe you buy your organic produce in a context which means that it's a day fresher. Whatever the reason in your case, properly designed scientific studies consistently show that the "organic" factor, on its own, makes no difference to taste or nutritional content.