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I'm wondering if my niece will likely get kicked out of her new school next year. Since, I, along with my mother, am helping pay for part of the tuition. My share I've agreed to is about $11,000 a year for 4 years high school. My sister has asked me for advice and help throughout this entire school decision process.
The short background story is, I have no kids by my own choice - and my only niece (there are no nephews) has been accepted at a college prep boarding school 2 hours from her house. Her parents travel for work, and they are irresponsible parents in certain ways, such as lacking patience to deal with her when there's any typical teenage problem like not wanting to study much or not telling her it's not ok to repeatedly pass gas in front of others (more on that later). Her mom loves her, but never really wanted/planned kids or to be a responsible mom.
So, the school will be an opportunity for her to get away from them, and have better influential adults around.
The school has required daily supervised homework study times which is great in her situation. Her mom currently always makes excuses for her not to study or do homework - such as if mom needs her help cleaning their rental units, wants her to go to a concert with her, or do something else irresponsible when niece needs to study.
Niece has no idea how bad (in certain ways) her parents are and actually likes them- they are pretty irresponsible - yet she does not see that from her limited life perspective. Her real dad is unemployed, former convicted felon, rarely pays child support, and stepdad earns good money yet is little help as a positive influence for other reasons.
My niece really wants to go, is excited about the school.
Until now she's attended a really easy public school. She is good in reading and writing skills. However, she has a math disability (which the public school won't acknowledge since they give A's for effort) and another "spacial" learning disability which means she has really messy handwriting.
She barely passed the entrance exam math section to get in this prep school - only after she got extra time and use of a calculator (normally not allowed) for her math disability, and use of computer (also not allowed normally) for the essay portion. The public school gave her all A's for effort, despite her being behind a full grade level in math.
Despite all this, she was accepted into a pretty good private school after a long, time-consuming process, with which I was greatly involved. Initially, was my sister's idea to send her away to school (mostly to make my sister's life easier), but I greatly encouraged it as soon as she brought it up. I did all the research on schools, private testing tutors, hiring of doctor/specialist to get her extra time on test, helped my sister fill out her financial aid forms for a partial scholarship, etc. My sister said without me she would not have known how to go about the process of applying, which is true - my sister literally did not know what or how to do any of this.
Also, as an only child, my niece has never had a roommate and thinks it's ok to pass gas a lot (really smelly gas!) when she "gets to know someone a month or two". I feel sorry for her soon-to-be future roommate she will meet in a month when school starts. Am wondering if she will change her attitude on this, for her poor future roommate's sake.
Also her mom (she's married to a man for "business reasons" - he makes good money, yet she has a girlfriend and open marriage) is very liberal so it's a status symbol for her daughter to be gay - so she bought her all these books for her on being gay and now my niece says she's gay. She even got her a full page ad spot in a well-read gay magazine (my niece's picture at age 12 is in there as a statement about the future of the gay community). However, she's never kissed anyone, boy or girl, and honestly seems like she likes boys from how she acts. I don't care if she's gay or not, but I do care if my sister is pushing it on her simply because in her circle of friends it's "cool" to have a gay daughter. But I've kept my opinion to myself, as it would get twisted if I brought it up as a negative. Basically I think my niece will make her own relationship decisions when older, regardless of what her mom says about how cool she thinks it is to be gay. I know my sister did ask the school if being gay is accepted there since it's religious/conservative, and they said yes they are open to that. If they had not been, my sister would not have agreed to send her there.
After high school, I may or may not help with college, depending on how responsible she is. She says she wants to be a doctor. Not likely - as she's smart in a way - but defiantly not that smart. She wants to go to college, and as of now she thinks she has to pay for college through scholarships, all herself. We (sister, mom and I) are not telling her we might end up helping with college because we want her to think she has to get good grades in order to get a scholarship. I defiantly will not help after college - as I consider that enabling. I may not even help with college - but it's too soon to make that decision. It will be largely based on how she sets goals during high school.
I had help with my college and I still had a great work ethic and - after college - worked may way up from literally nothing financially to doing very well. But she seems lazier and not as responsible with money as I was at her age. By 12 I was earning money in the family business, and she's 14 and not good with money. She mirrors a lot of what her mom does, only worse. If her attitude continues, it may be better she pays her own way through college.
I am hoping this college prep school will change her into being more responsible. That is, if she can make it there, not get kicked out.
So for now, I am wondering if anyone has experience with a "marginally prepared" kid going to college prep school, and how much a school generally puts up with. It is somewhat competitive to get in, not a special ed school in any way, though it will work with her one-on-one for extra math help.
Mainly I am looking for reassurance from parents or others who have experience with a "so-so" prepared kid in private college prep school, and wondering if there is anything more I can do. I think now I have to just wait and see how it works out - as she starts school in a month.
Already I have made some contacts there - through people I know who know administrators there - and a teacher. So, I look forward to getting to know them better as they seem eagar to share advice.
I can afford it and don't mind helping since in my niece's family situation it can really change her life for the better.She will end up getting my money when I die anyway (through a trust I set up), so I figure best to spend some of it now on her education. Even if this school does not work out, I won't regret my decision to try to help. I am in my mid-40s at a point where I could retire now if I wanted, yet if I retired now I'd have to live very frugally, so I choose to work full time another few years.
Her public school system is not great, unless you have very helpful dedicated parents supervising nightly study, or you are in the gifted program which she does not qualify for.
I am wondering if other parents have seen a turn-around for kids sent to boarding schools. I wish there was more I could do rather than just hope.
Also am hoping the school gives demerits for rude behavior such as purposely (she admitted she could stop if she wanted) passing gas. I read the handbook and it listed all the things they give demerits for - that was not one of them. We were on a trip and niece kept doing it, on purpose. She did not care which concerns me. At 14 I'd have been too embarrassed to do that in front of anyone.
Edit to add note: No one in my family knows how well off I am financially - or that I set up a trust for my niece that she will get when I die. They think I am working hard to help with her monthly school payments - they have no idea I have all the money saved already from years of past work and scrimping and (mostly) index fund investing. If my niece does not grow up to be responsible, I may decide to change the trust to give it all to charity - no one will know I ever saved that much money (other than a couple close trusted friends who would not tell). So no one expects me to help her with anything (other than the 4 yrs I agreed to for this school if she does not flunk out) and I won't help her unless it truly makes sense.
The short background story is, I have no kids by my own choice - and my only niece (there are no nephews) has been accepted at a college prep boarding school 2 hours from her house. Her parents travel for work, and they are irresponsible parents in certain ways, such as lacking patience to deal with her when there's any typical teenage problem like not wanting to study much or not telling her it's not ok to repeatedly pass gas in front of others (more on that later). Her mom loves her, but never really wanted/planned kids or to be a responsible mom.
So, the school will be an opportunity for her to get away from them, and have better influential adults around.
The school has required daily supervised homework study times which is great in her situation. Her mom currently always makes excuses for her not to study or do homework - such as if mom needs her help cleaning their rental units, wants her to go to a concert with her, or do something else irresponsible when niece needs to study.
Niece has no idea how bad (in certain ways) her parents are and actually likes them- they are pretty irresponsible - yet she does not see that from her limited life perspective. Her real dad is unemployed, former convicted felon, rarely pays child support, and stepdad earns good money yet is little help as a positive influence for other reasons.
My niece really wants to go, is excited about the school.
Until now she's attended a really easy public school. She is good in reading and writing skills. However, she has a math disability (which the public school won't acknowledge since they give A's for effort) and another "spacial" learning disability which means she has really messy handwriting.
She barely passed the entrance exam math section to get in this prep school - only after she got extra time and use of a calculator (normally not allowed) for her math disability, and use of computer (also not allowed normally) for the essay portion. The public school gave her all A's for effort, despite her being behind a full grade level in math.
Despite all this, she was accepted into a pretty good private school after a long, time-consuming process, with which I was greatly involved. Initially, was my sister's idea to send her away to school (mostly to make my sister's life easier), but I greatly encouraged it as soon as she brought it up. I did all the research on schools, private testing tutors, hiring of doctor/specialist to get her extra time on test, helped my sister fill out her financial aid forms for a partial scholarship, etc. My sister said without me she would not have known how to go about the process of applying, which is true - my sister literally did not know what or how to do any of this.
Also, as an only child, my niece has never had a roommate and thinks it's ok to pass gas a lot (really smelly gas!) when she "gets to know someone a month or two". I feel sorry for her soon-to-be future roommate she will meet in a month when school starts. Am wondering if she will change her attitude on this, for her poor future roommate's sake.
Also her mom (she's married to a man for "business reasons" - he makes good money, yet she has a girlfriend and open marriage) is very liberal so it's a status symbol for her daughter to be gay - so she bought her all these books for her on being gay and now my niece says she's gay. She even got her a full page ad spot in a well-read gay magazine (my niece's picture at age 12 is in there as a statement about the future of the gay community). However, she's never kissed anyone, boy or girl, and honestly seems like she likes boys from how she acts. I don't care if she's gay or not, but I do care if my sister is pushing it on her simply because in her circle of friends it's "cool" to have a gay daughter. But I've kept my opinion to myself, as it would get twisted if I brought it up as a negative. Basically I think my niece will make her own relationship decisions when older, regardless of what her mom says about how cool she thinks it is to be gay. I know my sister did ask the school if being gay is accepted there since it's religious/conservative, and they said yes they are open to that. If they had not been, my sister would not have agreed to send her there.
After high school, I may or may not help with college, depending on how responsible she is. She says she wants to be a doctor. Not likely - as she's smart in a way - but defiantly not that smart. She wants to go to college, and as of now she thinks she has to pay for college through scholarships, all herself. We (sister, mom and I) are not telling her we might end up helping with college because we want her to think she has to get good grades in order to get a scholarship. I defiantly will not help after college - as I consider that enabling. I may not even help with college - but it's too soon to make that decision. It will be largely based on how she sets goals during high school.
I had help with my college and I still had a great work ethic and - after college - worked may way up from literally nothing financially to doing very well. But she seems lazier and not as responsible with money as I was at her age. By 12 I was earning money in the family business, and she's 14 and not good with money. She mirrors a lot of what her mom does, only worse. If her attitude continues, it may be better she pays her own way through college.
I am hoping this college prep school will change her into being more responsible. That is, if she can make it there, not get kicked out.
So for now, I am wondering if anyone has experience with a "marginally prepared" kid going to college prep school, and how much a school generally puts up with. It is somewhat competitive to get in, not a special ed school in any way, though it will work with her one-on-one for extra math help.
Mainly I am looking for reassurance from parents or others who have experience with a "so-so" prepared kid in private college prep school, and wondering if there is anything more I can do. I think now I have to just wait and see how it works out - as she starts school in a month.
Already I have made some contacts there - through people I know who know administrators there - and a teacher. So, I look forward to getting to know them better as they seem eagar to share advice.
I can afford it and don't mind helping since in my niece's family situation it can really change her life for the better.She will end up getting my money when I die anyway (through a trust I set up), so I figure best to spend some of it now on her education. Even if this school does not work out, I won't regret my decision to try to help. I am in my mid-40s at a point where I could retire now if I wanted, yet if I retired now I'd have to live very frugally, so I choose to work full time another few years.
Her public school system is not great, unless you have very helpful dedicated parents supervising nightly study, or you are in the gifted program which she does not qualify for.
I am wondering if other parents have seen a turn-around for kids sent to boarding schools. I wish there was more I could do rather than just hope.
Also am hoping the school gives demerits for rude behavior such as purposely (she admitted she could stop if she wanted) passing gas. I read the handbook and it listed all the things they give demerits for - that was not one of them. We were on a trip and niece kept doing it, on purpose. She did not care which concerns me. At 14 I'd have been too embarrassed to do that in front of anyone.
Edit to add note: No one in my family knows how well off I am financially - or that I set up a trust for my niece that she will get when I die. They think I am working hard to help with her monthly school payments - they have no idea I have all the money saved already from years of past work and scrimping and (mostly) index fund investing. If my niece does not grow up to be responsible, I may decide to change the trust to give it all to charity - no one will know I ever saved that much money (other than a couple close trusted friends who would not tell). So no one expects me to help her with anything (other than the 4 yrs I agreed to for this school if she does not flunk out) and I won't help her unless it truly makes sense.
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