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Recycles dryer sheets
- Joined
- Dec 6, 2005
- Messages
- 105
Well, differing views, anyway...
saluki9 said:. . . I'm loving him even more because this is how mad he gets the Dems
Anyway, unlike most liberals, I don't take this stuff personally.
2B said:Carter is probably the most moral and decent president we've had in the last 50 years and everything he touched turned to crap.
Apocalypse . . .um . . .SOON said:Yes, and if we would have followed his energy plan, gas might be about $1/gal. right now, and we wouldn't be beholden to a bunch of dictator regimes, and having to pay for both sides of a war on terror.
2B said:Being a one termer also hurt Carter's chances of being a "great" president.
Scrooge said:Hm... This raises another question. Where was CFB in the spring of 1979??
That imperialistic war-mongering drug-abusing womanizer who lied extensively & often to hide his medical problems? With a parent who so manipulated the U.S. stock markets that the government was forced to make him start up the SEC?2B said:Kennedy is another one that unfortunately didn't have enough time to show what he could do. He was initially blessed for being the "martyred" president. When you look at his record, he had lots of problems and some gains. He didn't stay in office long enough to be really measured.
Nords said:With a second term he could've made Bill Clinton look like a monk. Sayyyy... now I wonder about their handshake photo...
HFWR said:Jimmy Carter "...enacted strong environmental legislation; deregulated the trucking, airline, rail, finance, communications, and oil industries, bolstered the social security system; and appointed record numbers of women and minorities to significant government and judicial posts. In foreign affairs, Carter's accomplishments included the Camp David Accords, the Panama Canal Treaties, the creation of full diplomatic relations with the People's Republic of China, and the negotiation of the SALT II Treaty..."
Per Wikipedia
All that may be true. But he was and continues to be ineffective at defending himself against the Republican attack machine.Jimmy Carter "...enacted strong environmental legislation; deregulated the trucking, airline, rail, finance, communications, and oil industries, bolstered the social security system; and appointed record numbers of women and minorities to significant government and judicial posts. In foreign affairs, Carter's accomplishments included the Camp David Accords, the Panama Canal Treaties, the creation of full diplomatic relations with the People's Republic of China, and the negotiation of the SALT II Treaty..."
Per Wikipedia
HFWR said:Hate to quote myself...
2B said:I don't want to start a battle on individual presidents.
I think the thing you are missing is that your analysis is just that -- your analysis. Either that or the analysis of some biased sources you are reading. Further, that analysis does not seem to support your point that it takes time for us to know the appropriate ranking of a President.2B said:. . . One key fact is that there are very few one term presidents that are in the top half of presidental performers. Plus, Carter and Ford are both pretty much considered safely below average. Even though Bill Clinton had two terms he is right around the middle. Most presidents fall in their "evaluations" as time goes on.
I doubt many people remember what political parties Filmore, Teddy Roosevelt, Hayes, Harding or Jefferson represented. When no one really cares anymore then we can honestly talk about them.
unclemick2 said:Harry Truman - don't need anybody else's opinion - my mind is made up - in my heart I know I'm right.
Plus - guess where I live now.
heh heh heh heh heh heh heh he he
Cute Fuzzy Bunny said:Oh come on. We can only go so far on mortgages, inflation, annuities and taking early social security...
2B said:. . .
I think we've beaten this enough. Let's move on to Hitler and Nazis.
"Thinking about the United States Presidents we have had since World War II – Harry Truman, Dwight Eisenhower, John Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, George Bush Senior, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush, which one would you consider the best president?"
Ronald Reagan (28%)
Bill Clinton (25%)
John Kennedy (18%)
Harry Truman (7%)
Dwight Eisenhower (5%)
Jimmy Carter (5%)
Don't Know/No Answer (4%)
George W. Bush (3%)
George H. W. Bush (2%)
Lyndon Johnson (1%)
Richard Nixon (1%)
Gerald Ford (1%)
samclem said:. . .
- "If Godzilla fought Mothra, who would win?"
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