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Old 08-05-2016, 11:07 AM   #61
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Guess you don't know roofers who do it to spec, or you don't have any winds in your area.

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You will also need to determine the amount of nails you'll need. Generally, you should use four nails per shingle. For regular three-tab shingles, this would require 320 nails per square. For high wind areas or when shingles are being applied to a mansard, six nails per shingle are required (480 nails per square). This is based on 80 shingles per square."
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This is a biased opinion from a company that makes money from consumers. You can put as many nails in as you want...its not going to hurt anything. Whether is necessary or not is a matter of opinion. Ive never come across real data that supports this claim.
+1@Sunset. This is why newer building codes in high wind areas, such as South Florida, mandate more and longer nails, and carefully inspect installation. It's not just the cost of the nails, it's also the additional labor. All extra cost for the roofer, so not something typically proposed by a fly-by-night type. Short or insufficient nails are a problem 10 years down the road, when shingles are loose, nails bent and rusting, and rot sets in the wood.
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Old 08-05-2016, 11:11 AM   #62
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They make money from selling shingles, NOT nails.
Why would they want you to buy more nails ?

They probably want your shingles to NOT fall off, as you will blame them when it happens.
lol...next you're going to tell me dealerships dont upcharge for car parts. do what you want to do. show me the data...ill leave it at that. byyzzeee
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They opened up the ceiling and Yeah it's leaking.... Now I need to chase up the home office and ask what are you doing for me...



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They opened up the ceiling and Yeah it's leaking.... Now I need to chase up the home office and ask what are you doing for me...
Is there access to the attic? If so, I don't know why they couldn't look for the leak without cutting through the ceiling??
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lol...next you're going to tell me dealerships dont upcharge for car parts. do what you want to do. show me the data...ill leave it at that. byyzzeee
Code up here is 4 nails per shingle, and on 12/12 or greater pitch roof, 6 nails must be used. Staples are not allowed, ice and water shield must be used in certain areas, and depending on which province, an underlayment may be required on the entire roof.
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Is there access to the attic? If so, I don't know why they couldn't look for the leak without cutting through the ceiling??

Yes attic, no access to that specific spot - we took out a bunch of wet insulation I'll call them on Monday...


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