Coronavirus - Health aspects

[Car-Guy]

Since there are only about 456 cases in the entire USA, it was kind of a silly question. If one was found in your locality it would be all over the local news.

When did that happen? There were only 57 cases in the US yesterday and many of those were from the Diamond Princess that were repatriated.

 

[REWahoo]

When did that happen? There were only 57 in the US yesterday and many of those were from the Diamond Princess that were repatriated.

465 is not accurate. As of 2:30 eastern time:

Health secretary says there are now 60 cases of coronavirus in the US

There are now 15 confirmed cases of the novel coronavirus related to travel or close contact to travelers in the United States, according to US Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar.

“As of this morning, we still had only 14 cases of the novel coronavirus detected in the United States involved travel to or close contacts with travelers. Coming into this hearing, I was informed that we have a 15th confirmed case, the epidemiology of which we are still discerning,” Azar said.

Azar said there are also three cases among Americans repatriated from Wuhan and 42 cases are evacuees from the Diamond Princess, bringing the total to 60 U.S. cases.

Coronavirus Live Update

 

[audreyh1]

When did that happen? There were only 57 cases in the US yesterday and many of those were from the Diamond Princess that were repatriated.

The Diamond Princess cases have increased to 42. With the 3 other repatriated cases that comes to 45.

That is an additional non-repatriated US case and CDC officials have provided no details.

 

[NW-Bound]

I had to do the prep for a colonoscopy, first day is a clear liquid diet , jello, broth, and white wine (well it is clear ). Second day morning was just water for a while.

I lost 2 lbs during that time, (measured officially).

Based on that I think I could starve for about 15 days, and end up a nice trim looking person at the end of the quarantine period

With a BMI of 23.5 now, and 21.5 for my wife, we would be long dead before the end of that 15 days.

Perhaps I should tell my wife that we should change the diet to bulk up, in order to have that reserve.

 

[Car-Guy]

465 is not accurate. As of 2:30 eastern time:



Coronavirus Live Update

The Diamond Princess cases have increased to 42. With the 3 other repatriated cases that comes to 45.

That is an additional non-repatriated US case and CDC officials have provided no details.

Now that's what I thought. Lot's of bad info floating around. Thanks

 

[NW-Bound]

A word of warning to those folks that might be considering the ER proposed CV19 survival diet consisting of pool lettuce, chlorinated craft beer, and Instant Pot Red Beans and Rice: I have been trying to maintain a low carb diet for the past 6 months (with intermittent fasting). We had a steak fry with friends, and I decided to make some BBQ beans to go with. The sudden re-introduction of beans to the digestive system was not appreciated by the GHG emissions producing section. Approximately 3:03 am, I was prompted to visit the bathroom and make an urgent decision- which end would let loose first? I made the correct decision, and was quickly presented with the dilemma of ‘what-if we are attempting to solve a simultaneous equation’? Fortunately, there was approximately a 10 second pause in the ceremony to allow for a repositioning activity.

Red beans and rice is supposed to be close to a nutritionally complete diet, if I remember correctly. And the Instant Pot makes the preparation much easier. (To be fair, I need to dial in the technique. It is a fine line between al dente and refried beans.) If the zombie apocalypse is upon us, I will also be going back to Costco for a pallet of toilet paper.

I am bean-intolerant in addition to being lactose-intolerant. If you go to Costco for TP, they also have Beano there.

 

[NW-Bound]

I thought I read yesterday that the CDC already stated that when it hits here the plan will be to self quarantine in place for 'mild' cases instead of having hospital level quarantine (as has been done in the USA for most? cases so far)? The idea being that most won't require the hospital ("It's just the flu, bro") with less emphasis on keeping it from spreading (i.e. the spread will already be massive, so why bother).

Of course, this plan falls apart when it is punched in the face, i.e. if a massive number of people fall seriously ill.

It is not revealed how sick that young man was. Perhaps the 26-day hospital stay was not really needed, but they wanted to understand the virus more, hence kept him for a study.

 

[bobandsherry]

COVID-19 Vaccine Shipped, and Drug Trials Start

https://time.com/5790545/first-covid-19-vaccine/

 

[airbornesapper]

I'm all packed....Hawaii here I come...

Happy Days....

 

[tmm99]

I've just started brainstorming about it.

Those two, plus canned green beans, soups mentioned here, low carb freeze-dried stuff, this stuff, steaks for freezing, Franz Keto bread!

Just came back from Costco with 30 cans of chicken, along with some Keto-friendly soup called Simply Green Soup by Sprague and I had one can of the soup and it was surprisingly good, and it's high fat, so it was quite filling. It's a Canadian brand, but maybe you can get it in your area or online.
https://feednflow.com/blog/post/ket...ens-keto-canned-soup-on-sale-at-costco-canada

 

[NW-Bound]

COVID-19 Vaccine Shipped, and Drug Trials Start

https://time.com/5790545/first-covid-19-vaccine/

The first vials were sent to the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the National Institutes of Health (NIH) in Bethesda, MD, which will ready the vaccine for human testing as early as April...

April? Why not earlier? It involves more than just lining up some test monkeys, apparently.

 

[Gumby]

Now that's what I thought. Lot's of bad info floating around. Thanks

Perhaps that's the number of traced and monitored contacts of the 60 cases who have not yet been tested negative?

 

[Car-Guy]

Perhaps that's the number of traced and monitored contacts of the 60 cases who have not yet been tested negative?

Maybe....

 

[Nemo2]

April? Why not earlier? It involves more than just lining up some test monkeys, apparently.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/02/covid-vaccine/607000/

Lipsitch predicts that within the coming year, some 40 to 70 percent of people around the world will be infected with the virus that causes COVID-19. But, he clarifies emphatically, this does not mean that all will have severe illnesses. “It’s likely that many will have mild disease, or may be asymptomatic,” he said. As with influenza, which is often life-threatening to people with chronic health conditions and of older age, most cases pass without medical care. (Overall, about 14 percent of people with influenza have no symptoms.)

Lipsitch is far from alone in his belief that this virus will continue to spread widely. The emerging consensus among epidemiologists is that the most likely outcome of this outbreak is a new seasonal disease—a fifth “endemic” coronavirus. With the other four, people are not known to develop long-lasting immunity. If this one follows suit, and if the disease continues to be as severe as it is now, “cold and flu season” could become “cold and flu and COVID-19 season.”

Though genetic sequencing is now extremely fast, making vaccines is as much art as science. It involves finding a viral sequence that will reliably cause a protective immune-system memory but not trigger an acute inflammatory response that would itself cause symptoms. (While the influenza vaccine cannot cause the flu, the CDC warns that it can cause “flu-like symptoms.”) Hitting this sweet spot requires testing, first in lab models and animals, and eventually in people. One does not simply ship a billion viral gene fragments around the world to be injected into everyone at the moment of discovery.

 

[NW-Bound]

Yes, someone posted the excellent article somewhere earlier.

I was talking about how it will take them 1 month just for the NIH to test the vaccine that some lab claimed to have made already.

About the production, distribution and administration of the vaccine, the movie "Contagion" showed how it could be done: by a lottery draw on the birth date, the same way as the military draft.

 

[Ronstar]

Since there are only about 456 cases in the entire USA, it was kind of a silly question. If one was found in your locality it would be all over the local news.....

456 cases? Where did you get that number?

And do you really believe the numbers in the news? I don't believe the numbers on the news given the speed at which this virus is spreading. And I'm not as sure as you about any cases in my locality making it to the local news. Perhaps you know more about my locality than I.

I suspected that the answer to my question would be zero. I didn't ask the question to get a number. I asked the question in order to gauge the level of precaution that the hospital was taking. I got the reaction I was looking for.

 

[Masquernom]

Germany’s health minister said Wednesday that the country was “at the beginning of an epidemic” as authorities in the west tested dozens of people who had contact with a couple infected with the coronavirus gaining a foothold in Europe.

https://apnews.com/230fa2d2e2891ab2ccb6d9c8a5f479bf

 

[ncbill]

Just put it in big boxes labelled "porn" and "sex doll".

Or "used prophylactics...to be recycled."

As long as there's not a fire at the prophylactic recycling factory...

 

[TromboneAl]

I'm confused by this:

World Health Organization says new cases of virus in Chinese epicenter on decline,

Is that real? If it's as unstoppable as we think, would it be declining like that?

 

[REWahoo]

I'm confused by this:

World Health Organization says new cases of virus in Chinese epicenter on decline,

Is that real? If it's as unstoppable as we think, would it be declining like that?

Maybe because the Chinese forced everyone in infected areas into quarantine?

 

[copyright1997reloaded]

I'm confused by this:

World Health Organization says new cases of virus in Chinese epicenter on decline,

Is that real? If it's as unstoppable as we think, would it be declining like that?

A few possibilities:
1) The quarantine and social distancing efforts are working in China.
2) There are a lot of new infections that aren't being counted because the cases are mild and people aren't being tested or require hospitalization.
3) The numbers coming out of China are being fabricated.
Or it can be a combination of above, or some other unknown factor (e.g. it isn't as contagious as thought).

 

[Fermion]

A few possibilities:
1) The quarantine and social distancing efforts are working in China.
2) There are a lot of new infections that aren't being counted because the cases are mild and people aren't being tested or require hospitalization.
3) The numbers coming out of China are being fabricated.
Or it can be a combination of above, or some other unknown factor (e.g. it isn't as contagious as thought).

The cruise ship which isn't controlled by China points to it being pretty dang contagious, so that is ruled out.

 

[copyright1997reloaded]

The cruise ship which isn't controlled by China points to it being pretty dang contagious, so that is ruled out.

Agreed. Just put it there for completeness.

 

[MrsHaloFIRE]

Stocked up on nonperishables and toiletries today as a precaution. Have the money and storage space. I get hungry on snow days. If I needed to stay home im sure Id be very snackish. Agree that utilities would still run. Or gosh I hope they would..

 

[brewer12345]

A few possibilities:
1) The quarantine and social distancing efforts are working in China.
2) There are a lot of new infections that aren't being counted because the cases are mild and people aren't being tested or require hospitalization.
3) The numbers coming out of China are being fabricated.
Or it can be a combination of above, or some other unknown factor (e.g. it isn't as contagious as thought).

Probably all of 1, 2 and 3. That plus we kill anyone who dares to say otherwise.

Apparently the first community spread (can't trace directly to someone who was in China) case has shown up in CA, at least the first one we have tested and found. Now it gets real for the US. Can only imagine what a mess this will be if it gets into California's burgeoning homeless population.