Extreme budget cuts

After I retired in Mar 2017 I went ahead and optimized my spending. These were things that I was intending to do anyway but never got around to since I was so busy working I never had the time.


It's mostly low hanging fruit to be honest and this list is far from exhaustive.



1. Called all the local trash collection companies and got quotes. Then called my current collection company and asked if they could match. Also switched to annual billing. Saved about $150/yr.


2. Analyzed our cell phone bills and figured out how much data we actually used. Then selected the cheapest plan offered by a carrier in our local area. Also made sure the phones were switched to use wifi at home and the free wifi at various businesses that we frequent. Managed to save about $240/yr plus got a "free" phone when I switched carriers (I'm really buying the new phone over 3 years at 0% interest - but the lower rate including the phone is still about $20/month less).


3. Pestered the cable company until they allowed me to get a promotional new customer rate of Internet/phone/cable. This was helped by the fact that I had quite a few cable outages over a period of two months. Also got credits for the outages. Managed to save about $600/yr.


4. Figured out what car/home insurance we really needed and then got several quotes on bundles. Saved about $400 /year.


5. Called the local alarm companies to get the best rate. Sadly I couldn't find any cheaper rate than I have now.


6. Switched grocery shopping to Aldi's. I estimate I'm saving about $10-20 a week - so let's say $750/yr



7. Stopped buying so much diet soda and other processed foods and replaced them with tap water and real fruits and vegetables. Estimated savings about $500/yr.


8. We live in a State that lets you select your gas and electricity suppliers. Switched to the lowest cost providers. Not sure I saved that much here - maybe $50/yr and you really have to stay on top of this.


9. Switched my gfs prescriptions to the lowest cost pharmacy. Some cost less if you don't go through insurance! Saved around $50/yr.


10. This is probably the biggie. Manipulated our income using judicious use of capital gains/losses and living off capital rather than income to get the biggest ACA credit possible. We managed to save about $7000/yr over paying the full price. Although to be fair it's doubtful that I would pay the full price without doing this.


11. Played the credit card rewards game. Every few months apply for a new credit card that pays you a bonus for spending x amount of money in usually the first 3 months. So far I haven't seen my credit score drop and have made - maybe $1000/yr.


12. Played the bank savings account rewards game. Open up a savings account - deposit x amount of money and keep it there for y days. After the y days are up and you get the bonus - close the account and repeat at another bank. Probably got about $1500/yr doing this. Helped immensely by Ally I have to say.



Here are other things we have done that are difficult to quantify.


A. Stopped buying sodas at restaurants - water is free and better for you.



B. Use coupons and special offers at restaurants - for example Friendly's restaurants have half price breakfasts every Mon-Fri - which makes their breakfasts quite competitive with local diners and usually makes their restaurants much busier in the week than at the weekend.



C. Use an app that shows the cheapest gas in your area.


D. Take advantage of special offers from CC companies to buy gift cards. So for example Some CCs will offer 10x points at various stores. Take advantage of this to buy a GC for Amazon say at the store at an effective 10% discount.


E. Ask if there are any discounts for old people at every museum, restaurant, club. theater etc. For example, when renewing a membership at one place I asked if they had discounts for old people - she said no - So I asked "what about cheapskates?". She laughed and said hold on and then gave me a $20 discount - not sure what for.


F. Visit the movie theater on half price day or at least see a matinee which is usually cheaper. Also, smuggle your own food into the theater.



G. Sign up for every reward program that you can - hotels, airlines, grocery stores, movie theaters. The points build up slowly but eventually you get to use them. Plus you'll get occasional free gifts. JCPenney and Staples both keep sending me $10 off $10 coupons which I use mostly for batteries and socks.



H. Figure out when your grocery store drops prices on almost expired meat/fish. Just buy it and freeze it. I once got 4 racks of lamb for $4 each.



I. Look for stores that are going out of business - Sears and Kmart have been the big ones lately. In the week or so leading up to the last day you can get 80% off most stuff and the last day is 90% off - although to be fair there is not much choice left on the last day.






My philosophy is rather than trying to cut back on the things you spend money on - which will lower your standard of living. Try to find ways to spend less money for the same or similar goods and services.
 
After I retired in Mar 2017 I went ahead and optimized my spending. These were things that I was intending to do anyway but never got around to since I was so busy working I never had the time.


It's mostly low hanging fruit to be honest and this list is far from exhaustive.



1. Called all the local trash collection companies and got quotes. Then called my current collection company and asked if they could match. Also switched to annual billing. Saved about $150/yr.


2. Analyzed our cell phone bills and figured out how much data we actually used. Then selected the cheapest plan offered by a carrier in our local area. Also made sure the phones were switched to use wifi at home and the free wifi at various businesses that we frequent. Managed to save about $240/yr plus got a "free" phone when I switched carriers (I'm really buying the new phone over 3 years at 0% interest - but the lower rate including the phone is still about $20/month less).


3. Pestered the cable company until they allowed me to get a promotional new customer rate of Internet/phone/cable. This was helped by the fact that I had quite a few cable outages over a period of two months. Also got credits for the outages. Managed to save about $600/yr.


4. Figured out what car/home insurance we really needed and then got several quotes on bundles. Saved about $400 /year.


5. Called the local alarm companies to get the best rate. Sadly I couldn't find any cheaper rate than I have now.


6. Switched grocery shopping to Aldi's. I estimate I'm saving about $10-20 a week - so let's say $750/yr



7. Stopped buying so much diet soda and other processed foods and replaced them with tap water and real fruits and vegetables. Estimated savings about $500/yr.


8. We live in a State that lets you select your gas and electricity suppliers. Switched to the lowest cost providers. Not sure I saved that much here - maybe $50/yr and you really have to stay on top of this.


9. Switched my gfs prescriptions to the lowest cost pharmacy. Some cost less if you don't go through insurance! Saved around $50/yr.


10. This is probably the biggie. Manipulated our income using judicious use of capital gains/losses and living off capital rather than income to get the biggest ACA credit possible. We managed to save about $7000/yr over paying the full price. Although to be fair it's doubtful that I would pay the full price without doing this.


11. Played the credit card rewards game. Every few months apply for a new credit card that pays you a bonus for spending x amount of money in usually the first 3 months. So far I haven't seen my credit score drop and have made - maybe $1000/yr.


12. Played the bank savings account rewards game. Open up a savings account - deposit x amount of money and keep it there for y days. After the y days are up and you get the bonus - close the account and repeat at another bank. Probably got about $1500/yr doing this. Helped immensely by Ally I have to say.



Here are other things we have done that are difficult to quantify.


A. Stopped buying sodas at restaurants - water is free and better for you.



B. Use coupons and special offers at restaurants - for example Friendly's restaurants have half price breakfasts every Mon-Fri - which makes their breakfasts quite competitive with local diners and usually makes their restaurants much busier in the week than at the weekend.



C. Use an app that shows the cheapest gas in your area.


D. Take advantage of special offers from CC companies to buy gift cards. So for example Some CCs will offer 10x points at various stores. Take advantage of this to buy a GC for Amazon say at the store at an effective 10% discount.


E. Ask if there are any discounts for old people at every museum, restaurant, club. theater etc. For example, when renewing a membership at one place I asked if they had discounts for old people - she said no - So I asked "what about cheapskates?". She laughed and said hold on and then gave me a $20 discount - not sure what for.


F. Visit the movie theater on half price day or at least see a matinee which is usually cheaper. Also, smuggle your own food into the theater.



G. Sign up for every reward program that you can - hotels, airlines, grocery stores, movie theaters. The points build up slowly but eventually you get to use them. Plus you'll get occasional free gifts. JCPenney and Staples both keep sending me $10 off $10 coupons which I use mostly for batteries and socks.



H. Figure out when your grocery store drops prices on almost expired meat/fish. Just buy it and freeze it. I once got 4 racks of lamb for $4 each.



I. Look for stores that are going out of business - Sears and Kmart have been the big ones lately. In the week or so leading up to the last day you can get 80% off most stuff and the last day is 90% off - although to be fair there is not much choice left on the last day.


My philosophy is rather than trying to cut back on the things you spend money on - which will lower your standard of living. Try to find ways to spend less money for the same or similar goods and services.

Good list. Never pay retail. I do the credit card game and definitely have no shame in gas buddy. I'll drive a few miles to save a few bucks on gas.

Some of these things are simole to execute some tskes some planning. We always try to go to a movie on matinee day
 
Just did this after quitting my job in Sept. due to a sociopath new boss.I am age 62, Now just hubby is working, but will retire next year at 66.



I went line by line. Re-shopped auto and umbrella insurance and switched. Negotiated our garbage pick up service bill.


Eliminated some subscription magazines. Eliminated hubby's life and disability insurance since he will be turning 65 this year and will retire at age 66 next year. Keeping mine for now even though I am not working.


Decreased our savings since I am no longer working. Hubby just putting 5% into 401K for match and full Roth contributions.


Our gas bill went down since I am not commuting any longer



When all was said and done we ended up with a $300 surplus per month which is helpful if we should go over the budget in any category or get an increase in a particular bill.


We are frugal anyway, so we are ok for now.
 
THIS is why I worked until I had a 3% WR (it will be lower once SSI and Medicare come on board). I don't want to have to think about ways to pare down expenses and I shouldn't have to. I sleep well at night
 
Moving out of New York to a lower COL area.
 
5. Called the local alarm companies to get the best rate. Sadly I couldn't find any cheaper rate than I have now.

Nice list, I've just made many of the things you listed part of my regular lifestyle. [emoji3]

But for item above, I would suggest you look at Ring Alarm. I had alarm system and was paying $32/mo, switched to Ring Alarm a couple months ago. Monitoring is only $100/yr, and includes cell backup should internet connection fail. I was already paying $30 to Ring for doorbell cloud storage, so incremental was only $70. I will more than pay for the new alarm equipment within the year, then reap benefits year after year. Easy setup, nice app and easy to use. Integration with Alexa is also nice benefit to me.
 
I could painlessly reduce our food and travel budgets by 50%. But, the DW is going to be mad when she realizes it's her 50% that was cut! :D
 
Problem is too many people have come to view tax filing season as Christmas in the spring. All they know is their employer dumps a sum in their bank account every week or two and the government sends them a big check in the spring. Witholding? Yeah, I don't know nothing about that.
 
All those ideas to cut electricity won't work in the long run. The electrical company still needs their revenue and will just raise rates.
 
Fly business instead of first class

Only buy a new Mercedes every other year, instead of yearly.

Buy self winding Rolex to save on battery costs

Cut maids' and butler's salaries

Egads Man!! You call that living? Certainly there are less drastic measures...

I would start by reducing/eliminating gratuities to waitstaff and other menials. After all, they are more accustomed to being poor.. It's really no sacrifice for them.
 
Nice list, I've just made many of the things you listed part of my regular lifestyle. [emoji3]

But for item above, I would suggest you look at Ring Alarm. I had alarm system and was paying $32/mo, switched to Ring Alarm a couple months ago. Monitoring is only $100/yr, and includes cell backup should internet connection fail. I was already paying $30 to Ring for doorbell cloud storage, so incremental was only $70. I will more than pay for the new alarm equipment within the year, then reap benefits year after year. Easy setup, nice app and easy to use. Integration with Alexa is also nice benefit to me.


Thanks for the tip - I'll check it out.
 
Good list. Never pay retail. I do the credit card game and definitely have no shame in gas buddy. I'll drive a few miles to save a few bucks on gas.

Some of these things are simole to execute some tskes some planning. We always try to go to a movie on matinee day


As far as I am concerned there is no shame in almost any method of saving money.


Although, having said that I once tried to use a coupon at Denny's only to be told that the coupon would make the bill more expensive. I had calculated I would be saving $2. I argued and argued and eventually they found I was right but would only save $0.01 (I'd forgot about the $1.99 cup of coffee which was not included in the coupon :facepalm: The look on the manager's face was priceless).
 
Big ticket items

I think the biggest things for us would be:

TAXES AND INSURANCE
Shop around for your insurance - huge savings here.
Insurance for multiple cars -- up deductibles and sell a couple of them.
Homeowners Insurance -- review
Real estate and personal property taxes for two homes.
Sell main residence and move to state of vacation (soon to be retirement) residence with less taxes. Could always continue working there if needed. Much cheaper there and taxes here are a huge portion of our budget.
 
Problem is too many people have come to view tax filing season as Christmas in the spring. All they know is their employer dumps a sum in their bank account every week or two and the government sends them a big check in the spring. Witholding? Yeah, I don't know nothing about that.
Probably same people who like Christmas Club savings. [emoji4][emoji268]
 
Some ideas for us would be:


-book inside cabin vice verandah on cruise
-book RC vs Viking cruises
-skip some excursions on cruises and walk on own
-regular drink package vs deluxe

-drink water at restaurants vs wine/cocktails
-buy choice vs prime meat for home meals

and of course
-Korbel champagne vs Dom Perignon
 
Use less energy and water... harder than you think
It's really not.

But let's examine this for a moment. My house is heated by gas, uses gas to heat water, but all appliances are electric.
My gas bill for January was about $70. $70 minus fixed prices = $49.60 of gas.
So even if I cut my gas usage in half, my bill would go from $70 to $45.
That's a lot of sacrifice to save $25, or 85 cents per day.

It's the fixed prices that kill me. I pay over $100 per month in fixed costs for gas/water/sewer/electric.


Shopping around for insurance saved me $1000. (Mostly house insurance)
 
It's really not.

But let's examine this for a moment. My house is heated by gas, uses gas to heat water, but all appliances are electric.
My gas bill for January was about $70. $70 minus fixed prices = $49.60 of gas.
So even if I cut my gas usage in half, my bill would go from $70 to $45.
That's a lot of sacrifice to save $25, or 85 cents per day.

It's the fixed prices that kill me. I pay over $100 per month in fixed costs for gas/water/sewer/electric.


Shopping around for insurance saved me $1000. (Mostly house insurance)
I just got my homes replacement value reassessed and saved some money on insurance without switching. My argument was that they built a brand new home for X same size as mine...of course agent comes back with sure but they didnt need to tear down and dispose of the old lost home. To which I replied no but they did need to hook in new water and electric to the city and clear the lot...which shoukd equal out. They used some algorithmic based 'appraisal software' to come to my value. I had to show them that sometimes the computer is wrong when common sense shows you otherwise. Facr remained I could go down the street with my insurance check and buy that brand new home cheaper than they state it costs to replace my old one.
 
Use less energy and water... harder than you think

It depends on your starting point. We weren't very careful about energy usage in the past. When we started analyzing and optimizing our electric bills our KW usage went down by over half. Because we had tiered pricing our bill went down more than half since we eliminated the most expensive KWHs.

Some of the things we did -
LED lights inside
Solar and LED lights outside
Eliminated garage fridge
Went around with a kill a watt meter
Bought a table top pizza oven (at a thrift shop!)
Bought three thermal cookers
Use the tabletop cooking appliances more than the built ins
Use drying racks and a spin dryer for clothes
Replaced the washer with a lower water / Energy Star version
Energy Star dishwasher when the old one died
Manual can opener
Replaced a plasma hog TV with an LED
Weather stripped
Bought more rechargeable batteries and solar charger
Draft stoppers on door bottoms
Went around with a kill a watt, unplugged phantom energy use appliances
Switched out my actual fan for white noise with a fan sound app at night
Open windows in morning on hot days, close them before it warms up
Low flow shower heads
Replaced a door in our garage with one with a window that opens so we could vent it on hot days
Turning off the TV / PCs when we leave a room

In our area we have charts from the electric and gas company that show usage on electricity by hour. We look at those to see what our baseline is like at 3 am when we are asleep and then see where are the spikes when we are up and about. The spikes for us are usually cooking, using the dryer, and heating and cooling on very hot or very cold days.
 
Low flow shower heads
You had some good ideas, but this one is hard to deal with. We're currently in a rental house that was built in 2017, so it has a lot of energy saving devices. The shower heads (wall/ceiling-rain) suck. It takes forever to get hair product removed and the rest of the body clean from soap. We end up showering longer than at our previous house because of the low flow. What good is low flow if your shower time is nearly double?
 
You had some good ideas, but this one is hard to deal with. We're currently in a rental house that was built in 2017, so it has a lot of energy saving devices. The shower heads (wall/ceiling-rain) suck. It takes forever to get hair product removed and the rest of the body clean from soap. We end up showering longer than at our previous house because of the low flow. What good is low flow if your shower time is nearly double?

We had low flow shower heads in our house and I drilled out the restrictor plate in each head. Now we have great, high pressure and high flow showers. :cool:

Where we saved water use was on our sprinkler system. I calculated the amount of water needed to maintain the grass here in Texas and then compared the volume to the output in each sprinkler zone. To my surprise, the running time that was set and the flow through each head came out to about double what was recommended. So I dialed back the running time to match the correct flow rate.

With the sprinkler flow and quantity reduction, I cut out about 1/2 the water we were using. I mean thousands of gallons per year! We also installed drip systems in a few areas and removed the high flow sprinkler heads.
 
We had low flow shower heads in our house and I drilled out the restrictor plate in each head. Now we have great, high pressure and high flow showers. :cool:

Where we saved water use was on our sprinkler system. I calculated the amount of water needed to maintain the grass here in Texas and then compared the volume to the output in each sprinkler zone. To my surprise, the running time that was set and the flow through each head came out to about double what was recommended. So I dialed back the running time to match the correct flow rate.

With the sprinkler flow and quantity reduction, I cut out about 1/2 the water we were using. I mean thousands of gallons per year! We also installed drip systems in a few areas and removed the high flow sprinkler heads.
We'll probably do the same in our new house once completed.

We moved from California (Bay Area) to Leander, TX (which is where the new house will be in a few months), so your comments about watering will be useful. One thing we have to be aware of is nearly every house built in this area in the past 10 (?) years are under some sort of HOA. Some of these HOAs have requirements to maintain a yard, primarily in the front.

In California, you could let the lawn die (many did because of the droughts and lack of water storage for the demand) and just let it go to dirt or cover with mulch, bark, rock, etc. I'm not sure the HOAs here would be happy about that.
 
Where we saved water use was on our sprinkler system. I calculated the amount of water needed to maintain the grass here in Texas and then compared the volume to the output in each sprinkler zone. To my surprise, the running time that was set and the flow through each head came out to about double what was recommended. So I dialed back the running time to match the correct flow rate.

With the sprinkler flow and quantity reduction, I cut out about 1/2 the water we were using. I mean thousands of gallons per year! We also installed drip systems in a few areas and removed the high flow sprinkler heads.

I'm in Florida and know what you mean about cost of watering your lawn. Check out Rain Machine or Rachio as replacement irrigation controller. They are smart controllers. I have RM and paid for itself in 6 months.
 
Turning off the TV / PCs when we leave a room

Of course it depends on what PC you have.

I measured my late model iMac with a KillAWatt and it only uses approximately one watt when sleeping. Set a low sleep time (like after 5 minutes of inactivity) in the Engery Saver control panel and you won't be using much at all. Without having to reboot.
 
I can honestly say that I've never once considered the cost of opening my garage door to go to work. What's that cost, a fraction of a penny?

Lol, So I have basically a half tuck-under garage. The portion that is on the other side of livable space is sheet rocked in the garage, but the rest of the 3 car is not sheet rocked, nor insulated. When it gets cold out, keeping the door open, or opening it often increases our gas thermal usage. Not by a lot I am certain, but the furnace definitely works harder after we've had the doors open on cold days.... adversely, I bring the cars in after driving around town on a hot day, and the house tends to heat up in the summer months to an uncomfortable level. This is probably only relative on very very cold or very very warm days, but hey something to pay attention to.

Sorta like I might leave the oven door open for a while after its done cooking dinner on a cold day to heat the kitchen with the leftovers. Why not? I'm not ER yet, so literally just trying to save to get the he!! outta the rat race. This past couple months were BRUTAL! First time in 22 years company didn't give raises, then my tax liability went through the roof after I stopped itemizing in 2018, and yeah well inflation hah. Anyways, just thought of another way to save on energy, when we are done baking dinner, bake the choc chip cookies in serial...serialization haha.

When I lived on Maui, people were super conservative with energy, at least where I lived they were. The cost per kwh out there was unfathomable, to the point I never once ran A/C in my house the whole time I lived there. Had an a/c unit but I couldn't tell you if it worked or not. On the cold nights we just shut all the sliders and threw an extra blanket on the bed. Plus conservation isn't a bad thing. There is a point of diminishing return.
 
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Learn to live a it out AC
Cut out cable,cell phone and instead use a landline
Use portable heater in winter
Eat at home
Wash with cold water, hang dry
Drink tap water
Go to food banks or similar for food
Get up your butt and work and second or third job that provides you with free food even better
Cut your own hair
Learn to love rice and beans
Take public transportation of possible instead of using your vehicle
Shave or shower at work to save on hot water
Use candles instead of lights
Sell all unnecessary things
Create GOFUNDME account

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This is my absolute favorite idea, Create GOFUNDME account :LOL::LOL::LOL:.
 
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