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We will *never* be bulletproof, but at some point, you're going to be more willing to accept the risk.
The vaccine isn't a get out of jail free card. It doesn't mean you can resume all of your normal activities or stop wearing a mask and distancing. You are still at risk of catching it. You are still at risk of transmitting it to others. You're less likely to get seriously ill, but that's really the main benefit as far as we know right now.
It is not yet known how much the vaccine reduces transmission. That’s why people are asked to continue to take precautions. Bulletproof would be complete immunity and not able to infect someone else.Guess I’m trying to understand what the unfortunate outcome was. In his post he said someone with the vaccine later got Covid. But no description of severity. If he got an asymptomatic case of Covid then I say ‘so what’. Sounds pretty bulletproof to me.
If vaccines don’t solve this thing called Covid then what the heck will? I’m fully vaccinated and I feel pretty bulletproof when it comes to Covid. That is, as bulletproof as one can feel about anything I suppose. It’s almost like lots of folks don’t really want this to end...paging Dr. Fauci.
The person in question ended up in the hospital with chest pain. That's where the COVID diagnosis was made. So no, not asymptomatic. They are now out of work for 10 days and their spouse is quarantined and out of work as well (she hasn't been vaccinated and is 10 years older and at higher risk).Guess I’m trying to understand what the unfortunate outcome was. In his post he said someone with the vaccine later got Covid. But no description of severity. If he got an asymptomatic case of Covid then I say ‘so what’. Sounds pretty bulletproof to me.
If vaccines don’t solve this thing called Covid then what the heck will? I’m fully vaccinated and I feel pretty bulletproof when it comes to Covid. That is, as bulletproof as one can feel about anything I suppose. It’s almost like lots of folks don’t really want this to end...paging Dr. Fauci.
The person in question ended up in the hospital with chest pain. That's where the COVID diagnosis was made. So no, not asymptomatic. They are now out of work for 10 days and their spouse is quarantined and out of work as well (she hasn't been vaccinated and is 10 years older and at higher risk).
Vaccines will help solve COVID, but not until the vast majority of the population has been vaccinated. Right now, about 13% of the US has had at least one dose and only 6% has had both doses. We're not even close.
...The vaccine isn't a get out of jail free card. It doesn't mean you can resume all of your normal activities or stop wearing a mask and distancing. You are still at risk of catching it. You are still at risk of transmitting it to others. You're less likely to get seriously ill, but that's really the main benefit as far as we know right now.
The vaccinators at the site I volunteer at always fill it in, and they do correct it if the patient changes his mind. I don't know if it's just because it's a required field in the Epic charting system they use, or if it's a best practice for all vaccines. I'll ask tomorrow (assuming we get enough Moderna vaccine to actually open the site).
So I did ask a couple of nurses why they record which arm gets the shot. They said they always record the injection site for all vaccines. It's just part of their usual record-keeping process.
I assume everybody signed up on that website, right?
Apparently there's been very spotty distribution of those fliers, so not nearly as much data on adverse reactions as there should be.
So I did ask a couple of nurses why they record which arm gets the shot. They said they always record the injection site for all vaccines. It's just part of their usual record-keeping process. They've never seen anyone refer back to it, and that would be practically impossible for covid vaccines since most people who come through aren't regular patients of UC Health anyway.
I would say on the severe reaction side, they get reported by every newspaper in the country...
Guess I’m trying to understand what the unfortunate outcome was. In his post he said someone with the vaccine later got Covid. But no description of severity. If he got an asymptomatic case of Covid then I say ‘so what’. Sounds pretty bulletproof to me.
If vaccines don’t solve this thing called Covid then what the heck will? I’m fully vaccinated and I feel pretty bulletproof when it comes to Covid. That is, as bulletproof as one can feel about anything I suppose. It’s almost like lots of folks don’t really want this to end...paging Dr. Fauci.
Muir,
For what it's worth, I get the same sense as you. Some people seem to want Covid to continue indefinitely.
I don't want to get covid and take common sense measures to prevent it. Generally speaking, a little common sense goes a long way. I intend to live my life as normally as possible. I am infinitely more concerned about becoming fearful as I age. I am unwilling to give up living for a year or two of my life for this virus. If I get it, I get it. Time is irreplaceable.
I'm currently sitting on a grand jury in Massachusetts, but the judge gave me permission to take a previously scheduled vacation. So, I'm in Florida on vacation as I write this. As I look around me, I am encouraged to see so many people living life as normally as possible.
I may or may not get the vaccine. At 66, I'd rather give up my dosage to people who need or want it more.
If somebody wants this to last, there's something wrong with them.
Apparently there's been very spotty distribution of those fliers, so not nearly as much data on adverse reactions as there should be.
We’ve tried to keep these COVID discussions fact based, so this type of observation really needs support from a legitimate source.
Muir,
For what it's worth, I get the same sense as you. Some people seem to want Covid to continue indefinitely.
I don't want to get covid and take common sense measures to prevent it. Generally speaking, a little common sense goes a long way. I intend to live my life as normally as possible. I am infinitely more concerned about becoming fearful as I age. I am unwilling to give up living for a year or two for this virus. If I get it, I get it. Time is irreplaceable.
What would you like? You can compare the number of respondents in the database link I posted to the number of vaccinations given. It's not a huge deal -- there is data. I can probably find specific articles bemoaning the varied quality of implementation at vaccination sites, too, but it's pretty well known, no?
I am still curious about local compliance and experience of forum members, though. Anecdotes, I know.