Covid Getting Closer to Home

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I think that was well established a year ago. Captive mink populations caught Covid last year and some were destroyed, domestic pets catch Covid, Covid infected deer have been known for a while.
 
I live in Ontario, Canada, and the numbers here have never been very bad, and none of my friends/acquaintances have gotten sick that I know of, but just yesterday, I finally met someone who's contracted COVID. He's probably in his 30s and contracted it in May of 2020 before the vaccines were available and it got into his heart and evidently he was sick for months (Go up the stairs and rest for an hour type of thing). He said he is so much better now, but he still has some heart issues and even after a year and a half, he's on meds to keep the problem at bay.
 
tmm99 said:
I live in Ontario, Canada, and the numbers here have never been very bad, and none of my friends/acquaintances have gotten sick that I know of, but just yesterday, I finally met someone who's contracted COVID. He's probably in his 30s and contracted it in May of 2020 before the vaccines were available and it got into his heart and evidently he was sick for months (Go up the stairs and rest for an hour type of thing). He said he is so much better now, but he still has some heart issues and even after a year and a half, he's on meds to keep the problem at bay.
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Wow that's terrible. I wonder if there is any progress on the long hauler issues, and any improved treatments.

I saw the news on Friday about the new pfizer protease inhibitor pill with high efficacy for early treatment and it makes me hopeful of having another additional tool, besides the vaccines. I hope there is a similar breakthrough for these long haulers.

On the other topic, I've seen the research on minks and deers, plus the ferrets, dogs and cats. But the risk has always been there, to some degree, with these viruses.
 
Wow. I read about it online but still don't know anyone who got sick. S's roommate was asymptomatic last summer but no one else

Grandson's drummer tested positive (antigen) but PCR was negative
 
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IF the recent upsurge in European covid numbers is anything to go by, covid could become even closer for NA locations.

My cousin was on a ventilator in an ICU ward for three weeks. The after effects can be debilitating.
 
I am one of 4 adult siblings. Our mother is still alive at 78.

Our mother was hospitalized for something else last Christmas 2020 and contracted COVID while in the hospital. She was treated with monoclonal antibodies in the ICU and recovered. She is 78. Her health continues to slide downhill.
My brother and his wife contracted COVID from my mother prior to their vaccinations. They recovered in early 2021.
My two sisters and their husbands received the J&J vaccine in March 2021.
Both couples contracted COVID (presumably the Delta variant)) this past summer and have recovered.

My brother and I remain the only family members who have not yet contracted the virus. We both have had both Moderna vaccines.

We remain cautious but we are also realistic.
 
SunnyOne said:
My brother and I remain the only family members who have not yet contracted the virus. We both have had both Moderna vaccines.
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That you know of -- especially with the (apparently) highest efficacy vaccine you may have had asymptomatic infections. Unless, of course, you regularly test yourselves.
 
Just saw the health stats where we live. At any time over the past month 85-93 percent of those covid patients in ICU were not double vaccinated.

The second telling stat over several months....Only .7 percent of those vaccinated have contracted the covid virus. Mind you, that .7 percent will not include those who contracted covid and did not know it/report it. It only includes those who were vaccinated and subsequently tested positive.
 
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brett said:
IF the recent upsurge in European covid numbers is anything to go by, covid could become even closer for NA locations.

My cousin was on a ventilator in an ICU ward for three weeks. The after effects can be debilitating.
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I just can’t imagine going through that!
 
I've seen multiple positive cases the past 2 days, all in unvaccinated patients, 3 of whom asked why I couldn't give them ivermectin. It's honestly really hard to get through these days.
 
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I've seen multiple positive cases the past 2 days, all in unvaccinated patients, 3 of whom asked why I couldn't give them ivermectin. It's honestly really hard to get through these days.
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Does your practice forbid you giving ivermectin, is it a personal belief? From what I understand ivermectin prescribed by a doctor in acceptable doses is safe. What did you give these patients when they asked for ivermectin?



How about the unvaxxed who didn't ask for invermectin what's your standard of care?



I've never seen any drug including opioids, vilified the way ivermectin is vilified.



I'm boosted with number 3 and neither pro nor con on the drug, I'm just curious.
 
In our area we need to show gov't proof of vaccination (14 days or more) AND ID in order to enter a restaurant. Very fast. Not really an issue.

Masking still mandatory in all public indoor spaces and on public transport within the city.

Airlines, trains, etc have the same requirements. Most businesses have mandated vaccination for their ee's.

Numbers have gone down in the cities. ICU numbers down. Big challenge now is the rural areas.

We have started up booster shots for seniors. Vaccinations for children expected to be approved within 7 days. Vaccine supplies for this group are being organized.

I sense there is a tendency here to compare ourselves favorably to other jurisdictions. It imay be OK to be the 'cream of the crap' however the only thing that counts is our stats. That is where the laser focus needs to be. Our deaths per million pop have gone up a little to 766/768. Not good. The shame of it is that we could have done better, and we should have done better.
 
<mod note> Let’s please not get stuck on a discussion of Ivermectin, there are other threads for that.
 
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Does your practice forbid you giving ivermectin, is it a personal belief? From what I understand ivermectin prescribed by a doctor in acceptable doses is safe. What did you give these patients when they asked for ivermectin?

How about the unvaxxed who didn't ask for invermectin what's your standard of care?
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My "personal belief" and that of our healthcare system, is in evidence-based medicine. If there comes a time when good scientific data supports the use of a drug to treat a condition, we'll happily use it. Until that time, no we don't.


Standard of care today is monoclonal antibody infusion. I've referred multiple patients for that treatment already this week. It doesn't matter if someone is or isn't vaccinated. Treatment is the same, though they do prioritize the unvaccinated patients since they are at higher risk of serious complications, so if there are limited slots available, they go to the unvaccinated first and then to the vaccinated if possible.
 
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<mod note> Let’s please not get stuck on a discussion of Ivermectin, there are other threads for that.
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Sorry, Michael. I saw this right after my last post. Feel free to delete it if you feel it's inappropriate.
 
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My "personal belief" and that of our healthcare system, is in evidence-based medicine. If there comes a time when good scientific data supports the use of a drug to treat a condition, we'll happily use it. Until that time, no we don't.


Standard of care today is monoclonal antibody infusion. I've referred multiple patients for that treatment already this week. It doesn't matter if someone is or isn't vaccinated. Treatment is the same, though they do prioritize the unvaccinated patients since they are at higher risk of serious complications, so if there are limited slots available, they go to the unvaccinated first and then to the vaccinated if possible.
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Thanks for answering and I'm sorry that Covid continues to make everyone's life more difficult. I believe in our state we can cut out a doctors visit and go directly from positive test to Mono antibody from the source. I hope you personally see things improve.
 
disneysteve said:
Standard of care today is monoclonal antibody infusion. I've referred multiple patients for that treatment already this week. It doesn't matter if someone is or isn't vaccinated. Treatment is the same, though they do prioritize the unvaccinated patients since they are at higher risk of serious complications, so if there are limited slots available, they go to the unvaccinated first and then to the vaccinated if possible.
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Wow. I am very sorry that I read this as it makes me angry. My DH and I both have age and comorbidities against us. I made sure we were both vaccinated early on and have had our boosters as soon as they were available. We are very careful around others. I know though, that in spite of all of our precautions there is still a chance we could get this virus. That others who refuse vaccination (and I know there are valid reasons to not get vaccinated) would be prioritized for the monoclonal antibody infusion first..... My head is exploding.
 
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Wow. I am very sorry that I read this as it makes me angry. My DH and I both have age and comorbidities against us. I made sure we were both vaccinated early on and have had our boosters as soon as they were available. We are very careful around others. I know though, that in spite of all of our precautions there is still a chance we could get this virus. That others who refuse vaccination (and I know there are valid reasons to not get vaccinated) would be prioritized for the monoclonal antibody infusion first..... My head is exploding.
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Agree. Priorities seem back to front.
 
Covid getting closer to home

Getting back on topic....

Before vaccinations really got going we had quite a number of friends, neighbors and relatives catch Covid, the worst affected being our son who was on a ventilator in ICU for few days.

This past 4 weeks we have had some fully vaccinated folks we know catch Covid.

A family get together at the end of October was scuppered partly because my wife's sister, her husband and their adult daughter all caught Covid. (daughter brought it home from work)

Some good friends and close neighbors of ours also caught Covid at the end of October - husband, wife and young teenage daughter, who brought it home from school.

All of them only had mild symptoms.

Another good friend, age 78, thought she might have Covid this past week. The day after receiving her Pfizer booster the typical flu-like symptoms she had with the other jabs developed into a bad cough and back pains. She did a Covid home test which was negative then took a PCR test at our local test center and she got the negative result by text at 7am next day so went to see the GP later that day who diagnosed her with pleurisy and put her on antibiotics. While we were heading out for a hike in the hills this morning they happened to be passing in the car so stopped for a roadside chat. She is already much better even after only 2 days on the meds.
 
When I saw my doc for my annual physical last week he mentioned that he has only seen three breakthrough cases among his patients so far, and all were mild. So that was encouraging.
 
bluelight said:
Wow. I am very sorry that I read this as it makes me angry. My DH and I both have age and comorbidities against us. I made sure we were both vaccinated early on and have had our boosters as soon as they were available. We are very careful around others. I know though, that in spite of all of our precautions there is still a chance we could get this virus. That others who refuse vaccination (and I know there are valid reasons to not get vaccinated) would be prioritized for the monoclonal antibody infusion first..... My head is exploding.
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+1 If they don't trust the science and refuse vaccination then what makes them think any treatment in the hospital is any different. They made their choice and ignored the consequences. I have no problem with them getting treatment but I don't agree with special consideration. They should have to wait their turn like everyone else.


Cheers!
 
A friends husband came down with covid last week, so far only "bad cold" symptoms. She has tested negative so far. Both vexed, but no boosters yet.
They admitted they were lax on masking at three large group gatherings recently.

They plan to get their boosters as soon as his doc says he's ok.
 
New member here. Rather timely that I happened upon this thread. My boss, her entire [unvaccinated] extended family came down with COVID after a family gathering a month or so ago. All of her brothers and sisters and all members of their respective families. One of those close-knit catholic italian families, who all spend their lives closely together, not like distant relations.

Timely because 17 minutes ago, we got word that her sister's husband, who was put on a ventilator a few days ago, just died. 40-something law enforcement officer, smoker but no other health conditions.

She and the family are heartbroken. [mod edit]
 
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