Star Trek

[Qs Laptop]

That's my whole point, it should be fun! His hair? Wish mine was that thick.

I noticed that his hair was perfect the next morning after his roll in the hay with Alora.

BTW, what's the bare-chested appearance count for Anson Mount? Is it up to two?

He's got a ways to go to catch up to Shatner.

 

[JoeWras]

Kirk's brother Sam was in an episode of TOS. The story where giant pieces of skin flakes flop down from the ceiling and fly onto people's backs, sting them, and become parasites. Spock becomes infected and goes on a rampage.

Sam Kirk was a biologist and was killed in this episode. He's kind of infamous in Star Trek fandom because he's played by William Shatner, just with a mustache and dyed hair.

So there is precedent here. Might as well ask if it's hard to fit Pike, Uhura, and Nurse Chapel into existing frameworks.

But I do not want to see a "who's who" of TOS characters being shoehorned into the series. I really hated that on Picard. I'm guessing that Beverly Crusher makes an appearance on S3 of Picard, along with a couple other regulars from TNG, like the Bajoran helmsperson.

Yes, good point. At least we know about Sam Kirk. ST: Discovery creates a whole bunch of new family connections I won't mention here.

BTW, you bring up that TOS episode. That one scared the daylights out of me as a kid! Even though they looked like pieces of plastic, it was scary.

And come to think of it even more... I think those effects had impact on the future.

1966: Donald Pleasence ("Fantastic Voyage") gets eaten by white blood cells, which are kind of like amoebas.
1967: Amoebas (or skin flakes, I like that) try to infect the galaxy (TOS)
1979: Face hugger aliens ("Alien") nearly infect the galaxy, and may still be at it depending on how Ridley Scott feels about things.

There seems to be a lineage of SFX between these.

 

[Qs Laptop]

BTW, you bring up that TOS episode. That one scared the daylights out of me as a kid! Even though they looked like pieces of plastic, it was scary.

Me too! Even when I was a teen and watched it again, could even see the wires on the props, it was scary.

And come to think of it even more... I think those effects had impact on the future.

1966: Donald Pleasence ("Fantastic Voyage") gets eaten by white blood cells, which are kind of like amoebas.
1967: Amoebas (or skin flakes, I like that) try to infect the galaxy (TOS)
1979: Face hugger aliens ("Alien") nearly infect the galaxy, and may still be at it depending on how Sir Riddley Scott feels about things.

There seems to be a lineage of SFX between these.

Good observations. I saw Fantastic Voyage with my older sister when it came out. I would have been 8 years old. I threw a tantrum until my mom caved in and said I could go along and see it. So naturally, when my sons were around 10 years old I watched it with each of them.

 

[Pellice]

I noticed that his hair was perfect the next morning after his roll in the hay with Alora.

BTW, what's the bare-chested appearance count for Anson Mount? Is it up to two?

He's got a ways to go to catch up to Shatner.

For my money, Enterprise had the maximum beefcake exposure. I thought at the time they were the best looking male cast on television. Not sure they fit the modern taste.

 

[MuirWannabe]

You don't like Pike's Peak?

Haha. While it’s every bit as tall as Pikes Peak, it’s not quite as majestic.

 

[swakyaby]

This thread is turning pretty funny

 

[harllee]

SPOILER ALERT : in the new episode of Strange New Worlds Captain Pike's hair gets messed up! A fun, campy episode with some neat pirates. I liked it.

 

[MuirWannabe]

SPOILER ALERT : in the new episode of Strange New Worlds Captain Pike's hair gets messed up! A fun, campy episode with some neat pirates. I liked it.

How can you tell? It’s already messed up. [emoji4]

Glad to hear the episode is a good one!

 

[harllee]

How can you tell? It’s already messed up. [emoji4]

Glad to hear the episode is a good one!

Well, his hair looked like normal hair and not like Pike's Peak while he was cooking for the pirates. He was wearing an apron too

 

[swakyaby]

This was a fun episode. And a captain who apparently enjoys cooking, as seen from the very first episode as well.

 

[JoeWras]

I like the antagonist of this episode. Well done.

Not too fond of the last minute or so.

 

[Qs Laptop]

I like the antagonist of this episode. Well done.

Once the friendly facade was dropped I thought the character was played a bit over the top but I still liked it. I sense a return appearance in a future episode.

 

[Freedom56]

Episode 7 was the best one so far in Strange New Worlds but The Orville season 3 so far is much better.

 

[JoeWras]

Once the friendly facade was dropped I thought the character was played a bit over the top but I still liked it. I sense a return appearance in a future episode.

Oh yeah, over the top, and I liked it. Talking about over the top, it was a little reminiscent of Harvey Mudd. Star Trek needs one of these every series. (TNG: Q, ENT: Shran)

 

[ncbill]

For those who remember the original animated series:

 

[jimbee]

^^^^That was actually better than the live action episode it was based on.

 

[Qs Laptop]

^^^^That was actually better than the live action episode it was based on.

If the intent was to recreate the look and feel of the Star Trek animated series from the 70's it's a smashing success.

But there's no way you can polish the turd of an episode it's based on!

 

[folivier]

The latest episode of SNW was ok, not great though it could have been better. Too much feely goody stuff.
But Orville was great! Especially when XXX got his head stuffed in a XXXX. And they've found their Q.

 

[ncbill]

If the intent was to recreate the look and feel of the Star Trek animated series from the 70's it's a smashing success.

But there's no way you can polish the turd of an episode it's based on!

Yeah, I thought that episode was picked intentionally.

As Comic Book Guy would say: "Worst Star Trek: Voyager episode ever!"

 

[Qs Laptop]

But Orville was great!

And they've found their Q.

They found their "Q". Really. But, remember The Orville is not a rip off of Star Trek, it is an homage.

 

[JoeWras]

Reading the summary, I dreaded the latest SNW.

Turns out I enjoyed it. Fantasy episodes are a Star Trek tradition, right from the start with a few in TOS. TNG relied on the holodeck a bit much.

This one was done with a surprising amount of actual consequences that balanced the over the top aspects of the story. The actors clearly enjoyed turning it up to 11 as if in a community play .

 

[Qs Laptop]

Reading the summary, I dreaded the latest SNW.

I didn't know the premise but when it was revealed I thought, "here we go again. This is the surrogate for the holodeck. Why must writers use this gimmick."

I watched the whole thing. It didn't suck as bad as I anticipated. But it did suck.

 

[JoeWras]

I didn't know the premise but when it was revealed I thought, "here we go again. This is the surrogate for the holodeck. Why must writers use this gimmick."

I watched the whole thing. It didn't suck as bad as I anticipated. But it did suck.

I more or less agree.

These are never my favorite. But they're gonna do them, so I have to try to remember it appeals to a different part of the fan base. At least in this case, they made sure to keep the engineer sane. Maybe that's why I found it a bit better. Engineers don't do fairy tales, do they?

A lot of people thing that the worst episode in TNG is the clip show. Or maybe the sex planet. Both suck. But I vote for "Sub Rosa," the one where Dr. Crusher is sent into a romance novel.

 

[Pellice]

What do you think of how Voyager used the Holodeck? Long-running side storylines, such as Captain Proton (kind of fun, I thought)), and Leonardo's Studio (kind of boring, I thought). I would say Voyager made the most extensive use of the Holodeck. DS9 probably was more realistic - it was used mostly for um, ah, pornography, except for the nightclub subplot, which actually contributed to the main plot. (I thought the long running gag about the serial holonovel "Vulcan Love Slaves" was funny, and I'll bet there's a piece of fanfic out there with that title.)

Writers seem enamored of putting the main characters in a totally different environment. It'd be interesting to ask them why.

Joe, I agree about Sub Rosa. Worst episode.

 

[Qs Laptop]

What do you think of how Voyager used the Holodeck? Long-running side storylines, such as Captain Proton (kind of fun, I thought)), and Leonardo's Studio (kind of boring, I thought). I would say Voyager made the most extensive use of the Holodeck.

I don't remember much about Voyager. Saw some of the episodes when it aired but that's it. Generally speaking, I don't like holodeck stories. The threats aren't real (no matter how the writer tries to make it seem real, it's not), and the stories typically revolve around a particular character's fantasies.

DS9 probably was more realistic - it was used mostly for um, ah, pornography, except for the nightclub subplot, which actually contributed to the main plot. (I thought the long running gag about the serial holonovel "Vulcan Love Slaves" was funny, and I'll bet there's a piece of fanfic out there with that title.)

Yes, you bring up a good point about the nightclub holodeck sequences. They were essentially a way for characters to relax on their time off of duties and in a completely different setting. I even liked the music in the nightclub. I actually liked the use of the holodeck in these instances. One story I liked was "Our Man Bashir", (title is a takeoff of "Our Man Flint" movies of the 60's) which was a campy James Bond style adventure where Dr. Bashir plays a debonair spy.

Writers seem enamored of putting the main characters in a totally different environment. It'd be interesting to ask them why.

I'd also like to hear why writers insist on ignoring the fantastical universe of science fiction and write a holodeck story set on earth. The writer literally has the entire universe to concoct whatever story desired and goes for the safety of the holodeck. It doesn't make any sense.