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The report is here, at Yale University: https://yaleglobal.yale.edu/content/cities-grow-so-do-numbers-homeless.
Good point. If each country defines "homeless" differently kind of hard to do meaningful country to country comparisons.Now, New Zealand takes the infamous top spot, and that is shocking. I have been there, and it was some years ago, but did not see anything bad. It was a nice country.
Just now, I found the explanation. It was because of the way NZ compiled its own statistics. They made themselves look bad compared to other countries.
The US is estimated to have 1 million people living in RV, and many by choice. They do not consider themselves homeless. That would have added another 0.3% to the US number, bringing it closer to the top.
I am sure there are some living in a camper under the bridge, but the vast majority of folks I have seen in 24/7/365 campers are living quite well, and always by choice.
Good point. If each country defines "homeless" differently kind of hard to do meaningful country to country comparisons.
Lots and lots of homeless living in RVs here in PNW. You see them parked in big box parking lots, along side the road in industrial areas or dead end streets. Portland even has a program to take junk RVs for free to keep them from ending up on the streets. https://www.kptv.com/news/city-of-p...cle_beb90ce7-bd12-57d4-8ad6-2412e6b04e4e.htmlI am sure there are some living in a camper under the bridge, but the vast majority of folks I have seen in 24/7/365 campers are living quite well, and always by choice.
Thanks.The report is here, at Yale University: https://yaleglobal.yale.edu/content/cities-grow-so-do-numbers-homeless.
Lots and lots of homeless living in RVs here in PNW. You see them parked in big box parking lots, along side the road in industrial areas or dead end streets. Portland even has a program to take junk RVs for free to keep them from ending up on the streets. https://www.kptv.com/news/city-of-p...cle_beb90ce7-bd12-57d4-8ad6-2412e6b04e4e.html
Some blue-collar jobs pay very well, but are looked down upon.
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This so true, and it is a shame. I was an engineer/project manager for a megacorp. My two best friends both worked as tradesmen. One union, one non-union. Their wives worked and also took time off with the kids when they were small, as did mine. ...
I believe the homeless issue in the USA is more of a drug abuse issue, not an actual homeless issue.
There are many working poor in our area who simply can't afford housing. Research shows homelessness is largely linked to rent prices. Some live in RVs here but it is a big issue on where they can park them. Some of the cities are trying to set up designated parking lots for all the RVs.
24601NoMore said:...
We all have / had the same opportunity, being born in the greatest country in history. What we all CHOOSE to do with that opportunity is up to US, and "luck" has ZIP to do with the outcome.
RobLJ said:...
So, yea, luck doesn't explain much, but it also explains a lot.
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Sorry for the length and somewhat off-topic nature of the above; I guess I don't have anything to apologize for (probably, but I can't think of it) but I did win the gene lottery. If I didn't acknowledge that, I would betray my twin who didn't win at all, but it wasn't his fault.
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That thread did not look down on competent plumbers.I grew up in a household supported by a blue collar job. My dad was a union plumber. I'm grateful for this!
So, on the subject of "looking down" on the job... There was a whole thread on this site looking down on plumbers and complaining, primarily in the title using the word "hate". Just based on the title, I didn't want to get involved, so I haven't participated.
Probably should have used a different title then.That thread did not look down on competent plumbers.
Some can and some can’t. I agree with most everyone here in saying ‘I wish they could overcome their issues and become a successful/productive member of society’ but I fall out of agreement when it gets to ‘they are capable of doing so but were just lazy’
I’m glad you agree zip code has a lot to do with your projected outcome. Personally, I chose to be born in a good zip code.
24601NoMore said:You must have missed my earlier post - I was born in a HORRIBLE zip code with murders happening right outside my front door. We moved when the latest murderer threw his gun into our trash can.
Again..ANYONE born into this great country of ours has the SAME opportunity. All the rest is just politics and or/whining.
You must have missed my earlier posts where the entire topic was: some people can overcome their challenges, others can’t.
Your expectations for others in slightly different situations to have an outcome exactly like yours is unrealistic.
Just because someone was born with the capability to be successful in a situation doesn’t mean that others have the ability to succeed in that situation.
That is why your zip code predicts your outcome with a pretty high correlation. Glad your parents were able to move you out of that bad neighborhood - unfortunately many kids in that neighborhood weren’t as *LUCKY* (unless you’re implying that the kids can somehow control where their parents raise them).
Again, congrats on beating statistics but it is kind of silly to say as a whole society should focus on one off special cases.
I was very lucky to be born with a capacity for hard work.
The US is estimated to have 1 million people living in RV, and many by choice. They do not consider themselves homeless. That would have added another 0.3% to the US number, bringing it closer to the top.