J&J vs Moderna/Pfizer

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mistermike40 said:
It sounds like the main thing is to just get vaccinated as soon as you can (I saw that they all pretty much eliminate covid hospitalizations/deaths).
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^ this. Take the very first one you can get. I had the moderna (just got jab 2 today) and had some reaction to Jab one - a day of low fever and aches BUT as a covid survivor I can affirm that the mild side effects from vaccines are nothing like the real deal.

Any steps you can take to avoid getting the virus should be taken and every day that passes is a day of elevated risk for the unvaxxed (and their social circle). Take the first available jab.
 
I would have taken any of them, but got Pfizer (which was my first choice).

I was able to snap a vaccine spot for my child (18 year old) tomorrow. They won't say what they have, other than it might be either Moderna or JNJ. For him, I would prefer it to be JNJ, but obviously it will be whatever is. The preference for JNJ is twofold - he is in school in another state, with a 2 hour trip each way. So getting JNJ eliminates the need for a trip home and trying to coordinate getting the 2nd shot on a weekend or late Friday. Secondly, while I am an old geezer (so unknown consequences 20 years down the road would be an oh well), he is a young dude and I would prefer risks via a traditional vaccine vs mRNA "new technology".

p.s. I was able to get the appointment for him as NY State opened things up to 16+ starting April 6th, and I was online at Midnight on that date looking for spots.
 
I'm only taking Novavax, the protein-based vaccine. It's the safest vaccine with the highest efficacy - 97% efficacy on the original strain and 86% efficacy on the UK variant strain. It will be available in the US next month - May. Fauci already mentioned it. Pfizer and Moderna are not really clinically tested against the UK strain in a formal clinical study. Novavax had 15,000 people in the UK in their study. Pfizer and Moderna only tested it in a Lab petri dish. So, you can still be re-infected with the UK variant.

I'm not take the mRNA vaccines (Moderna & Pfizer) also due to allergies. I'm not taking the adinovirus vector vaccines either (Astra & JNJ) - reports from Europe says they cause thrombosis or blood clotting. Colorado just closed a vaccine site yesterday when 18 people had adverse side effects from JNJ.

Good luck to all.
 
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I haven’t gotten the shot yet. Just haven’t really looked. As a 54 yo white female who no longer works in a hospital my risk isn’t high. I was a firm believer early on in not jumping the line ahead of those at risk.

DH refuses to get vaccinated. He doesn’t get the flu shot either. As a now retired nurse I have taken every vaccine. Almost forced by employer to get an annual flu shot and I encourage every over 50 person I know to get the Shingles vaccine.

CDC says vaccine may only be effective for 6 months. I would really like to know if that’s the case before I sign up.

I may have already had COVID-19, I had a 25k ER bill that left me a question mark or PUI ( person under investigation). The test was negative but as a RN who tested multiple patients I can tell you the nurse who did my test was not competent at the task. She did a stab and go is the best description I have for what was a mid turbinate swab.

I am not opposed to being vaccinated just not stressed about getting an appointment. Apparently my mother is. She called today with a big lecture and a throw my husband under the bus stance. DH heard. Fun times in my house.

DM is a pill. We four kids put up with her **** without a word of protest because she’s our mom. Our loving father died 20 years ago. I immediately called DS, felt much better after we commiserated about our PITA mom.

Since mom officially banned DH and I until we are vaccinated I may wait a little longer. LOL Yes she has reduced me to a rebellious teenager!
 
DW was contacted by the local hospital to get vaccinated She got Moderna. 2 weeks later the same hospital got down the list to my name. When I got my vaccination, it was Pfizer. It all came down to what was available at the time. The J&J was not available at the time.

From what I read, the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines have about the same incidence, types and severity of side effects.
 
I had a choice between Pfizer and Moderna depending on location and chose Pfizer.
 
Vacation4us said:
CDC says vaccine may only be effective for 6 months. I would really like to know if that’s the case before I sign up.
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No, that’s not what they said. They said it was still going strong at 6 months. When more time passes they will let us know how it is holding up for even longer time periods.
 
cyber888 said:
I'm only taking Novavax, the protein-based vaccine. It's the safest vaccine with the highest efficacy - 97% efficacy on the original strain and 86% efficacy on the UK variant strain. It will be available in the US next month - May. Fauci already mentioned it. Pfizer and Moderna are not really clinically tested against the UK strain in a formal clinical study. Novavax had 15,000 people in the UK in their study. Pfizer and Moderna only tested it in a Lab petri dish. So, you can still be re-infected with the UK variant.

I'm not take the mRNA vaccines (Moderna & Pfizer) also due to allergies. I'm not taking the adinovirus vector vaccines either (Astra & JNJ) - reports from Europe says they cause thrombosis or blood clotting. Colorado just closed a vaccine site yesterday when 18 people had adverse side effects from JNJ.

Good luck to all.
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Pfizer was used in Israel which had 80% prevalence of the UK variant, and it did very well - real world results. https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-r...d-evidence-confirms-high-effectiveness-pfizer
...said Ugur Sahin, M.D., Co-Founder and CEO of BioNTech. “The real-world data reported from Israel demonstrate that BNT162b2 is exceptionally effective in fighting SARS-CoV-2. Our vaccine has been effective in preventing COVID-19 cases, as well as profoundly reducing the rate of COVID-19 related severe diseases, hospitalizations and deaths. These findings are also important, as the data were generated at a time when the SARS-CoV-2 variant B.1.1.7 was the dominant strain.”
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Husband and I both got Pfizer, didn’t have a choice, and that was fine with us. Like many above said, it was just important for us to get a vaccine, any vaccine.
 
garyt said:
Personally I would've preferred the J&J vaccine because it is based off older technology that has been studied more. The efficacy doesn't matter much to me as all are 95% in preventing hospitalization and death which is what I'm most concerned about. It's questionable whether any of them actually prevent infection. But now I'm reading about quite a few adverse reactions to the J&J now that it's being rolled out more. So maybe I'm better off with the Pfizer vaccine that I got. But really, I'm not sure anybody knows which vaccine is best.
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I just read this before this thread. " Clinical trials showed that a single dose of the vaccine had an efficacy rate of 72 percent in the United States,"
From; https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/health/johnson-johnson-covid-19-vaccine.html
 
We had dose one of Moderna March 1, second on April 1. We could have had J&J March 2, DW wanted Moderna, I could care less, just stick me.

We likely had Covid-19 last April but our symptoms(fatigue, headaches, body aches, lost taste and smell) weren't added until after we recovered. We never saw the need to test after the fact. In any case DW had a reaction to both doses that was very similar to the symptoms we had last year albeit much milder. My arm was sore for an hour.
 
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No choices for us. Kaiser said they don't even know what their giving out until it arrives in the morning.
 
So I decided to look on vaccine finder and my county health department, spent some time hunting for an appointment. Couldn’t find one with in 15 miles of my home. I do not live in a rural area. Multiple locations close to home showed vaccines in stock but no appointments available.
 
Got Pfizer, both shots done over three weeks ago, so I should be close to 97%!

Very small sore spot at shot site first injection, cleared after about four or five hours as flexed armed with normal activity. Slightly larger sore spot on upper arm second dose lasted overnight into next day but also cleared soon thereafter with normal use of arm flexing.

Second dose I also had an unplanned nap for a few hours the next afternoon while sitting in my Eckorness Stressless recliner next to a nice warm fire in the fireplace. But, I have been known to fall asleep in that same recliner many times long before "covid" was in our vocabulary. So your guess is as good as mine whether that nap was a side effect of vaccination, or a side effect of being 75/sitting by warm fire/sitting in favorite recliner!

Small community hospital I went to intermittently used both Pfizer and Moderna, but at time of my appointment was using Pfizer, so no choice, unless I opted to delay appointment and try to reschedule to later. Conveniently the hospital scheduled me in for second dose when went in for first dose. Was also very careful at second dose to ask what brand I was expecting, asked to see my vaccination card from first dose, and nurse actually giving shots also asked again what brand I was expecting. Very smooth operation.
 
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I got Moderna #1, will get #2 on the 13th. The rest of the household got Pfizer a month or so earlier.
Keep in mind the side effects of vaccination are a feature, not a bug. Your body is not pleased about making antibodies.
Some bodies are less pleased than others :)
 
Time2 said:
I just read this before this thread. " Clinical trials showed that a single dose of the vaccine had an efficacy rate of 72 percent in the United States,"
From; https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/health/johnson-johnson-covid-19-vaccine.html
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That's true, but the J&J trials were on a different population than the other two. Also, the real measure of success is not ending up in the hospital or morgue:

While J&J’s vaccine has 66.3% effectiveness overall and 74.4% effectiveness in the United States, it has “100% efficacy against hospitalization and death from the virus,” said Dr. Irons. “That's really what we have to focus on.”

https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering...h-patients-knew-about-johnson-johnson-vaccine
 
Got JJ by choice yesterday. Pretty high fever through the night and headache. Still a mild headache and sleepy now.

I like to think the strong reaction is a good immune response. Maybe
 
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I preferred Pfizer or Moderna but would have taken anything that was available.

Ended up with Moderna. My second shot is scheduled in approximately 2 weeks. [emoji16][emoji16]
 
So far, every qualified adult in our family has received Pfizer.
Any one of us would take whatever vaccine was available, just get it done!!

I have spent many hours online helping to get appointments, it hasn't been easy, but this last one for DSIL who just became eligible on Monday was the easiest. Nabbed a slot on Day 4 for trying. I think they updated their computer sign ups or something.
 
I had Pfizer but would have taken Moderna or J&J. Sore arm both times but no real side effects.
 
Time2 said:
I just read this before this thread. " Clinical trials showed that a single dose of the vaccine had an efficacy rate of 72 percent in the United States,"
From; https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/health/johnson-johnson-covid-19-vaccine.html
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/me...h from COVID-19, according to clinical trials.

Research has shown that Johnson & Johnson is 85 percent effective in that category, well over the 70 percent threshold Dr. Subramanian said is typically needed to be considered a high-quality vaccine. The Johnson & Johnson vaccine was also 100 percent effective at preventing hospitalization and death from COVID-19, according to clinical trials.

I was quoting the efficacy for preventing hospitalization and death which is what really concerns me.
 
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