Joining a gym via health insurance?

So to cancel, you tell them you're going to cancel, and then the only credit card they have for you no longer exists. Makes it kind of hard for them to keep charging it.:D
Maybe that's why some of them don't let you use a credit card and accept only bank drafts.

I try to avoid blaming the victim in some of these horror stories, but sometimes it's hard not to roll my eyes. You may not like the fact that Gym X requires you to either show up in person or send a letter in the mail to cancel your contract 30 days in advance, but no matter how ridiculous and onerous you find it, you agreed to do that. So don't be surprised if they continue withdrawing your dues if all you did was call them to cancel.

As much as I hate gym membership shenanigans, I'm not a huge fan of aggrieved members who don't follow the rules and then complain about maltreatment.

I just remembered that I signed up at a Workout Anytime location using Renew Active the other day and they asked for the routing number and account number for my checking account, even though I wasn't going to be paying anything. They said they needed to have it on file.

This is a hipster location, with only weights and no classes, and I'm sure they don't get a lot of geezers like me signing up with Renew Active, so maybe they don't actually need the account information for those memberships. Who knows. But I'm a lot more comfortable giving a credit card (where I can dispute charges) than my bank account number.

I said I didn't have my account information, and they were surprised. I guess people have this on their phones? I have a flip phone, which they knew because I had to use one of their personal smartphones to do the sign-up process. (Living without a smartphone is not for sissies.)

They suggested I call my bank, and I said no, my bank just pisses me off every time I call them, but I offered to get the numbers when I got home and call back. They let me in that day and I got an email that welcomed me to the gym, so I assumed my membership went through without the bank info. And when I went back another day, I took my bank info with me just in case they really did need it, but my key tag worked no problem.
 
I once went into a Gold's Gym to ask about membership, they gave me a contract, I said, I'll take it home to read, they took it away from me and said that's not possible, we don't allow it! :confused: I didn't join.
 
My BF has one thru BCBS and it works similar to Pluperfect's description.

He actively goes to 3 different gyms thru the program, the only restriction is you can't go to more than 1 gym per day. One is nicer and newer, one has classes, one has tennis courts.

I had seen the program and when he wanted to sign up for O2 at $49/month I was like let me look.. and sure enough it was covered in the plan, so for $29/month he can go there and another one that was close to his work so he has options and a discount.
 
I just remembered that I signed up at a Workout Anytime location using Renew Active the other day and they asked for the routing number and account number for my checking account, even though I wasn't going to be paying anything. They said they needed to have it on file.

I'd have a big problem with that excuse. If they're not using it to debit my account, they don't need it. PF insisted on deducting it from my bank account- I guess they wanted to save credit card processing fees. I was concerned about whether they would stop deducting the payment when I terminated my membership but since THEY initiated the termination they were very efficient about it.:D
 
Yeah it was my understanding (maybe wrong) that most only do bank drafts now. And I will write a letter to cancel, but they have to actually hold up their end and cancel and not "lose it" or whatever. But oddly this thread has rather made me remember why I am not really interested in a gym rather than reminding me of the obvious perks of dealing with my insurance company. Hmm.
 
Second that..........Planet Fitness. $10 a month, $49 once a year fee, cancel anytime you like.



Mike



Mine is $10/mo plus $29
annual but PF doesn’t have pools or courts if that’s what you want. It’s a great value.
 
My BF has one thru BCBS and it works similar to Pluperfect's description.

He actively goes to 3 different gyms thru the program, the only restriction is you can't go to more than 1 gym per day.
For $29 a month when just one of them would be $49, I'd say that's an acceptable restriction.

However, I'll note that I haven't encountered a similar restriction with Renew Active. I routinely go to two different gyms in a day with no issues. I did ask at one how to handle it if I come to the gym and then leave and then come back that same day, and they said Renew Active would be charged only once even if I scan in twice in the same day. But I have no way of verifying that. Now that I think about it, at this same place I went for a yoga class that got cancelled and I said that's the only reason I came, and how do I "undo" that scan so my insurance company doesn't have to pay for it. The guy asked why I cared--it's just an insurance company. Sigh.

I'd have a big problem with that excuse. If they're not using it to debit my account, they don't need it.
I think they just didn't understand; there's a space for the bank information so obviously they have to fill it in, or at least I wouldn't be surprised if that's what a 25-year-old front desk person at a meathead gym thinks.

Club Pilates sells retail stuff, and they have a requirement that you have yoga socks and conveniently have them for sale for $17 if you forget yours. I'm guessing I've joined a dozen Club Pilates locations and a minority of them have asked for a credit card. I was going to say they've asked only when I signed up in person, but I now remember that one of them was over the phone; I rattled off my card number and the woman said, "Do you have that memorized??" Yes, I do.

But oddly this thread has rather made me remember why I am not really interested in a gym rather than reminding me of the obvious perks of dealing with my insurance company. Hmm.
The only thing I do at gyms is yoga; I don't lift weights or use any machines or swim. And I like yoga classes at YMCAs in particular because they're usually populated by schlubs and old people, so it's a very chill atmosphere. Chill to the point that I sometimes wonder how much training the instructor has, but I'm there mainly to have someone guide me through the poses.

I like the ritual of going to a class. I'm the same way with movies--I still see movies only in theaters. So being able to go to classes for free is very appealing (although it's not actually free--as I said above, to get a Plan G supplement with gym memberships, I couldn't get a low-cost high-deductible Plan G supplement, but I accept the trade-off AND I view getting the plan where I don't have to think about deductibles as a gift to myself, as someone on this forum once described it).
 
Wanted to revive this thread rather than start a new one.
We just joined a Lifetime fitness near us and we are paying full membership fees (spouse is half price). Several of our friends have joined the same gym using their supplemental healthcare insurance benefits. For the “free” membership They have some restrictions on usage (can only work out during certain hours, have to pay to take classes,etc.) unless they pay a supplemental fee.
Our insurance does reimburse us up to $500 each every 6 months for any health club or exercise program we pay for and USE. This club will still cost us money, but it seems to be a very good deal, including Pickleball play where we can reserve courts or sign up for open play in our play level.
Anyone else using insurance plans to join or pay for exercise programs or memberships?
 
I have UHC Medicare Plan G. It pays partially or fully for up to three gym memberships. I go to LA Fitness for swimming for free (was $40/mo before I retired and only for my home club) and for $15/mo I have a black card membership at Planet Fitness. If I had a regular PF membership it would be free and confined to one club. Both are nationwide. I really like LA Fitness by I like the Planet Fitness weight machines better and the water massage tables are fantastic.
 
I like the Planet Fitness weight machines better and the water massage tables are fantastic.
LOL, we already found the water massage and cryo massage lounges in the “relaxation zone” of our gym. There is usually a line of people waiting to use them (they are set for 10 or 15 minute limits). Yes, they are great!
 
My insurance offers free online workouts. I used them in the winter with dumbbells and such.
 
Our group Medicare Advantage plan gives us free access to LA Fitness facilities. Easy to set up - just had to walk in and show card and set up free account with address and phone number. Nationwide, some other health club facilities are included. Saved the fee I was paying another club and probably has better facilities in same distance from home.
 
Yep. Join the same LA fitness I have been using for many years using Medicare Advantage.
A year later, I changed my Advantage and I didn't have to do anything.
 
Do all of these Medicare advantage, Part G and silver sneaker plans allow full access to the gym, facilities and classes or do they restrict to certain days and times. That’s the part I Find strange about some of our friends” free membership.”
 
Do all of these Medicare advantage, Part G and silver sneaker plans allow full access to the gym, facilities and classes or do they restrict to certain days and times. That’s the part I Find strange about some of our friends” free membership.”
See post 36.
 
Do all of these Medicare advantage, Part G and silver sneaker plans allow full access to the gym, facilities and classes or do they restrict to certain days and times. That’s the part I Find strange about some of our friends” free membership.”
With UHC medigap plans you have to buy the 'wellness extras' add-on to get the gym membership benefit, for my Plan N it's $32 extra/month. Not worth it to me considering my gym membership is only $11/month.
 
with my silver sneakers plan I can belong to both LA Fitness and Lifetime Fitness. there are no restrictions on the LA Fitness membership. the Lifetime Fitness has restrictions on the hours you can go. I prefer to go to Lifetime but if I can't due to restricted hours then I will go to LA fitness.
 
Do all of these Medicare advantage, Part G and silver sneaker plans allow full access to the gym, facilities and classes or do they restrict to certain days and times. That’s the part I Find strange about some of our friends” free membership.”
We never did much with our membership in Silver Sneakers, but I didn't notice any restrictions.
 
Do all of these Medicare advantage, Part G and silver sneaker plans allow full access to the gym, facilities and classes or do they restrict to certain days and times. That’s the part I Find strange about some of our friends” free membership.”

I'm a very heavy user of my Renew Active (AARP/UHC supplement) gym benefit. I belong to probably 20 or 30 gyms because I travel fulltime and go to classes wherever I happen to be. The only time I've encountered restricted hours is at Life Time.

Generally, the membership allows me full access to all facilities. At big chains like Crunch, LA Fitness/Esporta, 24-Hour-Fitness, Anytime Fitness, and Workout Anytime, I signed up at one location and have access to any location in the country. I can go to any group fitness classes they offer that are free to members. I can't, for example, go to Pilates Reformer classes that require members to pay extra. Or, I suppose I could go if I'd pay the extra fee--I never looked into it.

Each Planet Fitness operates independently, so I have to sign up for a separate free membership at each one I go to. I've done a couple, but they usually don't really know how to do it so it's kind of a pain. But at least once, I was told I could pay to upgrade the membership to the black card, and not have to sign up at each one separately. What I don't know is if I pay for the upgrade to the black card, will it let me into Planet Fitness locations that don't participate in Medicare insurance programs (not all Planet Fitness locations do).

There's a chain called Chuze, and from what I gathered when I signed up, my membership was going to work only at that one location. And I found out that my membership didn't include any group classes, and I'd have to pay to upgrade my membership to take them. I think that's the first time I ever encountered not having access to group classes.

With YMCAs, a membership at one branch works at any other branch of that particular Y, but doesn't give you access at another city's YMCAs, for example (i.e., no nationwide access to YMCAs with just one membership). City recreation centers operate similarly--if the city has more than one rec center, the membership works at all of them. At both YMCAs and rec centers, I've had access to all group classes that don't require an extra fee.

You mentioned Life Time in particular, and that one operates a little differently. A couple of years ago they instituted limited hours for people who have memberships through their supplement or Advantage plan: Mon-Fri 9:30a-3:00p, Saturday 2:00p-close, Sun all day, Arora Aqua classes any time with reservation. (Arora is their "senior" program.)

I've been to a few yoga classes there, and they're included as long as they're in the hours I have access. You have to make a reservation to take a class there, and at that time pick a numbered spot on the floor. When I've tried to reserve a class that's not in those hours, it won't let me. It also won't let me make a pickleball reservation even if it's within my allowed hours. Same with Arora yoga: it's treated differently from Arora aqua, and I wasn't allowed to make a reservation for an Arora yoga class that was outside my access hours.

To be honest, I'm not quite sure how Life Time works with these insurance memberships because people report all sorts of things. If a reegular person buys a membership, I gather they have access only to clubs that are at the same tier or lower than the one where they signed up. I have access to every club in the country, but I don't know why--is it because all Medicare memberships do, or is it because I happened to sign up for mine in Reston, Virginia, which is in the top tier of clubs?

Renew Active used to be a lot better than Silver Sneakers because it included places like Orange Theory, Club Pilates, Stretch Lab. However as of January 1 of this year, Renew Active dropped all of those and their network now closely resembles the Silver Sneakers network--major chains, lots of YMCAs and rec centers, some local gyms.

I was bummed. I ended up taking 300 reformer classes at Club Pilates during the time Renew Active included them. I found out that Renew Active paid Club Pilates $31 for every class someone took, so they paid out $9,000 on my behalf over 2-1/2 years just for Club Pilates. That's obviously not sustainable, and I was sad but not suprised they stopped offering those expensive classes.

One thing to note is that UHC also has a gym plan called One Pass, for non-Medicare insurance plans (like employer-provided insurance). People generally have to pay extra for One Pass, and there are tiers of membership, but it does include places like Club Pilates.

And for Medicare plans, there's a program called Silver & Fit (I think Aetna offers this) that's similar to their non-Medicare plan called Active & Fit. Getting details on those is a real challenge, but I think you're limited to one "regular" gym membership at a time (e.g. LA Fitness or Crunch, but not both at the same time) and I do know you can pay extra for memberships at premium gyms (which does include places like Club Pilates).

With Renew Active and Silver Sneakers, I'm proof that you can join as many as you want, and you can go to as many in one day as you want.
 
I'm a very heavy user of my Renew Active (AARP/UHC supplement) gym benefit. I belong to probably 20 or 30 gyms because I travel fulltime and go to classes wherever I happen to be. The only time I've encountered restricted hours is at Life Time.

Generally, the membership allows me full access to all facilities. At big chains like Crunch, LA Fitness/Esporta, 24-Hour-Fitness, Anytime Fitness, and Workout Anytime, I signed up at one location and have access to any location in the country. I can go to any group fitness classes they offer that are free to members. I can't, for example, go to Pilates Reformer classes that require members to pay extra. Or, I suppose I could go if I'd pay the extra fee--I never looked into it.

Each Planet Fitness operates independently, so I have to sign up for a separate free membership at each one I go to. I've done a couple, but they usually don't really know how to do it so it's kind of a pain. But at least once, I was told I could pay to upgrade the membership to the black card, and not have to sign up at each one separately. What I don't know is if I pay for the upgrade to the black card, will it let me into Planet Fitness locations that don't participate in Medicare insurance programs (not all Planet Fitness locations do).

There's a chain called Chuze, and from what I gathered when I signed up, my membership was going to work only at that one location. And I found out that my membership didn't include any group classes, and I'd have to pay to upgrade my membership to take them. I think that's the first time I ever encountered not having access to group classes.

With YMCAs, a membership at one branch works at any other branch of that particular Y, but doesn't give you access at another city's YMCAs, for example (i.e., no nationwide access to YMCAs with just one membership). City recreation centers operate similarly--if the city has more than one rec center, the membership works at all of them. At both YMCAs and rec centers, I've had access to all group classes that don't require an extra fee.

You mentioned Life Time in particular, and that one operates a little differently. A couple of years ago they instituted limited hours for people who have memberships through their supplement or Advantage plan: Mon-Fri 9:30a-3:00p, Saturday 2:00p-close, Sun all day, Arora Aqua classes any time with reservation. (Arora is their "senior" program.)

I've been to a few yoga classes there, and they're included as long as they're in the hours I have access. You have to make a reservation to take a class there, and at that time pick a numbered spot on the floor. When I've tried to reserve a class that's not in those hours, it won't let me. It also won't let me make a pickleball reservation even if it's within my allowed hours. Same with Arora yoga: it's treated differently from Arora aqua, and I wasn't allowed to make a reservation for an Arora yoga class that was outside my access hours.

To be honest, I'm not quite sure how Life Time works with these insurance memberships because people report all sorts of things. If a reegular person buys a membership, I gather they have access only to clubs that are at the same tier or lower than the one where they signed up. I have access to every club in the country, but I don't know why--is it because all Medicare memberships do, or is it because I happened to sign up for mine in Reston, Virginia, which is in the top tier of clubs?

Renew Active used to be a lot better than Silver Sneakers because it included places like Orange Theory, Club Pilates, Stretch Lab. However as of January 1 of this year, Renew Active dropped all of those and their network now closely resembles the Silver Sneakers network--major chains, lots of YMCAs and rec centers, some local gyms.

I was bummed. I ended up taking 300 reformer classes at Club Pilates during the time Renew Active included them. I found out that Renew Active paid Club Pilates $31 for every class someone took, so they paid out $9,000 on my behalf over 2-1/2 years just for Club Pilates. That's obviously not sustainable, and I was sad but not suprised they stopped offering those expensive classes.

One thing to note is that UHC also has a gym plan called One Pass, for non-Medicare insurance plans (like employer-provided insurance). People generally have to pay extra for One Pass, and there are tiers of membership, but it does include places like Club Pilates.

And for Medicare plans, there's a program called Silver & Fit (I think Aetna offers this) that's similar to their non-Medicare plan called Active & Fit. Getting details on those is a real challenge, but I think you're limited to one "regular" gym membership at a time (e.g. LA Fitness or Crunch, but not both at the same time) and I do know you can pay extra for memberships at premium gyms (which does include places like Club Pilates).

With Renew Active and Silver Sneakers, I'm proof that you can join as many as you want, and you can go to as many in one day as you want.
Pluperfect, that’s a great summary of the various programs. We’ve started taking Aurora classes at lifetime and like them (yes for older members). Keep up the great work.
 
Do all of these Medicare advantage, Part G and silver sneaker plans allow full access to the gym, facilities and classes or do they restrict to certain days and times. That’s the part I Find strange about some of our friends” free membership.”

Advantage does a lot more than just a gym.
Medicare Adv depends on where you live. In my area there are over 60 plans, most are not good.
Only several are great. The one I selected is PFFS=Private Fee-For-Service.
Most/all Medicare doctors and facilities accept it. I pay the same for in/out of network. I can go directly to any specialist. Several things I have
Primary care=$10
Any specialist=$20
OTC = $1000 per year
Eye check + glasses = $450
Dental over $2000
Gym is free = $360
Max out of pocket in/out of network $6700

In 2023=Original Medicare
Supplement + Plan D = $3K.
My prescriptions + one special one tier 3 = $2K
Yearly deductible=$225

In 2024: Advantage
Supplement + Plan D = 0.
My prescriptions + one special one tier 3 = $100
Visited 8 specialists = $160
That's already $5K ahead. Add OTC+Dental savings+Gym+Eye/glass and you get easily over $2000.

Let's assume $6K invested in the market at 6% annually for 20 years will get me $240K. After deducting the $6700 out of pocket several times, I'm still ahead.
I know things can change, I can be denied, I can't go back to Original, and other horror stories.

The key is where you live. Big cities with many doctors, facilities, and patients have an advantage.
 
We’ve started taking Aurora classes at lifetime and like them (yes for older members)

What I find odd is that they schedule some Arora classes at times during which the people who have memberships via Medicare coverage don't have access. I guess they want to reserve some for their paying customers.

Because of the scheduling, I've never even seen an Arora class. What are they like? I've seen a few Silver Sneakers classes and they really are for old people, like everybody has chairs next to them for balance. I went to a water aerobics class once and, really, it was just some women standing around in the water chatting.

Are the Arora classes more vigorous than that? I've done my share of very easy yoga classes, and I like them, so I'm not casting aspersions. And I hate young people stuff like H.I.I.T. I guess I'm looking for a nice middle ground.
 
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