gamboolman
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The nickel and diming is all so tiring. Like the dam "Resort Fee's"....
Dam aggravating for sure.
Dam aggravating for sure.
The nickel and diming is all so tiring. Like the dam "Resort Fee's"....
Dam aggravating for sure.
Since this has kind of turned into an all things Tesla thread, I'm wondering about the total long term reliability of their cars.
I guy I know has a '21 Model 3 stealth performance. He's had it for a little over a year with 31,000 miles on it now. The performance is great but the reliability has been worse than his previous BMW's which is saying a lot. All in, it has required more than $21,000 dollars in warranty work to date. Both front wheel motors have been replaced twice. The first time due to a recall because they were defective from the factory, the second time because they would make strange, abnormal noises while driving. Then there was the time the vehicle is supposed to automatically put the windows up when parked. About an hour after parking it, he gets a message on his phone that the car is telling him that the windows aren't up and have malfunctioned. The problem was that this message was received during a downpour of rain that lasted about 20 minutes. He goes out, the interior is full of water, the seat positions don't move, there is a faint electrical burning wire small and when he drives away, the windows are going up and down intermittently. The dealer takes it in, verifies that the window up after parking function did not work properly, guts the interior, replaces driver's seat, interior wiring and gives it back. Same issue persists and they replace the passenger's seat and more wiring. Now there's an unresolved issue of the screen freezing intermittently. And the real treat (this time not Tesla's fault) is coming back from the dealer the last time, he was pulled over by a PA state trooper because the car hadn't been emissions tested and didn't have a PA state emissions sticker. When he explained to the officer the car didn't burn fossil fuels and didn't emit any emissions, the officer copped an attitude and wrote a ticket anyway. Another day off of work to fight a ridiculous ticket. BTW, he lost the case. Turns out all electric cars in certain counties need an emissions exemption sticker according to PA law, but the dealer doesn't have any because the dealer says the state never told them they needed to test electric cars for emissions. Needless to say, he's dumping this before the warranty is up and not buying another. Is this typical of Tesla reliability?
No,
Sounds like your friend should investigate lemon laws because he has one.
Did you read this review? It's mostly abouts panel gaps....The above case may be extreme but Tesla does have problems, Tesla was ranked 27 out of 28 brands on Consumer Reports reliability rankings.
Did you read this review? It's mostly abouts panel gaps....
Tesla’s Model 3 has average reliability. The Model Y still has body hardware issues with the tailgate and door alignment, paint defects, and multiple other problems. The Model X and Model S have body hardware, climate system, and in-car electronics problems. All three models are well below average.
The Internet connectivity of modern cars has some values. It costs money for the car makers to pay for the wireless link to a cellular carrier, and to maintain their Web servers. They have to at least recoup that cost, and that's fair.
The question is how much they charge, and whether the car owner thinks he needs the service enough to pay it. If this service is optional and expensive, like what GM offers for my 2020 car, I refuse it, and my car still operates fine. But if it is mandatory, meaning my car is bricked unless I pay the ransom, then it's something else entirely.
From what I read elsewhere (including another thread on this forum) it's not just EV's going to it, maybe all or most vehilcles will.
For now though I'll plan on keeping my 2003 GMC 4WD pickup for as long as I can. I can't think of a thing that a new truck would do that would make it worth $50k+ to me.
Maybe this is for Model S and Model X? My Model 3 Performance came with one year of free connectivity and it was clear at purchase that I’d pay after that. It provides Internet access to the vehicle and, as far as I know, in my case it keeps Maps, Browsing, and Spotify working. It’s $10.40 a month with tax in Wisconsin. I’m fine with paying it.
Buying the car was great. Picking up the car was effectively “It’s over there. Drop the papers in the box on the side of the building on your way out.” While this surprised me, I didn’t care because I don’t need a party at the dealership at time of delivery.
Owning it has been great. The color of the plastic body panels doesn’t exactly match the color of the metal body panels and the panel gaps are definitely not BMW-class but we allow Tesla these deficiencies because the rest of the car is so good.
It’s hard to describe the experience of ownership and driving one and why it’s so good. I’d suggest you don’t knock it until you’ve driven one. It’s the best car I’ve ever owned and I’ve had some good ones like BMW M3s, a VW Golf R, etc.
Sigh… Tesla hasn’t had subsidies (beyond what any business can get) for years.Thats how things with subsidies work. They cant make it on their own. …
(emphasis added)Bring up Tesla or EV and it seems like so many lose the plot. An EV is a really smart buy for many retirees.
Not a Tesla owner, but looking at the details out of curiosity, I found that the charge of $99/year is quite good, compared to the outrageous charge that GM was trying to sell me for my 2020 car.
See here: https://www.tesla.com/support/connectivity.
Basically, Standard Connectivity gives you the map and software update over the air. ...
(bold added by me).Will vehicles with Standard Connectivity still receive over-the-air software updates?
Yes. All vehicles have access to over-the-air software updates.
What happens after 8 years? Some older cars cannot support Premium (hardware too old?). And there's no mention of subscription for Standard after 8 years.
What are the connectivity features that may be limited after Standard Connectivity expires?
Without Standard Connectivity, access to some connectivity features, including those that use cellular data or third-party licenses, may be changed or removed. These Standard Connectivity features that may change currently include maps, navigation, voice commands and more.
Does it mean some cars are not expected to be in use after 8 years, and no longer supported?