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Old 08-19-2010, 03:14 PM   #61
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People all over the country are abandoning their homes and leaving their animals behind to fend for themselves now. I guess on Maslow's Heirarchy of Needs, animals rate waaay down there. Maybe the care we take of those who can't fend well for themselves should be the way we rate civilization? And it ain't shinin' too bright during this Recession to me. Just IMHO.
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Old 08-19-2010, 04:41 PM   #62
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Not judging this case one way or the other, and being a pet lover(dogs, cats, rabbits, guinea pigs but not snakes) and even though from this angle Al looks correct....

What is amazing to me is that perfectly normal humans will scream bloody murder about the mistreatment, manor or major, of animals, but will often not have much comment at all toward the enormous mistretment of fellow humans by deed and more especially by their mean and hurtful words which destroy many many lives.

Having spent two thirds of my life listening the children under the age of 11 tell me horrible things that their parents did to them or said to them, I know this to be true.
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Old 08-19-2010, 06:46 PM   #63
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What is amazing to me is that perfectly normal humans will scream bloody murder about the mistreatment, manor or major, of animals, but will often not have much comment at all toward the enormous mistretment of fellow humans by deed and more especially by their mean and hurtful words which destroy many many lives.

Having spent two thirds of my life listening the children under the age of 11 tell me horrible things that their parents did to them or said to them, I know this to be true.
Yeah, OK, but dogs just moon at you their whole lives. Kids insist on getting over that stage. No comparison. What dog ever said, F... U Mom, I hate you! You are so totally stupid!

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Yeah, OK, but dogs just moon at you their whole lives. Kids insist on getting over that stage. No comparison. What dog ever said, F... U Mom, I hate you! You are so totally stupid!

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I've know cats that "said" this but I still love them anyway
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Dogs think bunnies are great, even without the garlic sauce.

Seriously, though, we've been advised that it's best to have cohabiting dogs and bunnies be of roughly the same size and arrive at the new home either together or with the bunny going first.
My late cat was kept indoors all her life. Hence, she lost all her hunting instinct, and looked indifferently at the bunny and the mice that my children once raised. She was the sweetest cat we ever had. Still to be safe, I don't think my children ever let her be alone with the mice. With the bunny perhaps.

I have read that some people like to have their cats raised the "natural way", meaning allowing them to go out and hunt birds or drag small animals home. We however would rather not.
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Yeah, OK, but dogs just moon at you their whole lives. Kids insist on getting over that stage. No comparison. What dog ever said, F... U Mom, I hate you! You are so totally stupid!

ha
My cat used to say that, and then she would pee on the couch and on my pillow and anywhere she wanted. We tried everything. Last January she spent most of her life in the cold garage.

And then we got this stuff made up of Mother Cat pheronomes. Its like one of those plug in air freshioners. Gradually the whole house including us began to smell just like MOTHER CAT. And everyone knows that neither people nor animals PEE ON THEIR MOTHERS. After using about 3 bottles of it, her relationship with us is so different and so loving, that its hard to believe that she used to tell us to get F'd, and give me that murderous stare that told me that if I was smaller I would be dead.

We no longer use it. She knows where her mother is, and it is here somewhere and it is US, and it is even the labrador retreiver.
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My sister has used the plug in pheromones in the past, as has a cousin. They both reported positive results. I've not tried it myself but our vet is a believer in it as part of behavioral therapy for problem cats.
Because ours is a multiple (and I do mean multiple--7 at the moment) cat household, these types of solutions are less effective for what we euphemistically call "retributional wetting sessions".
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