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Old 11-01-2006, 10:52 AM   #41
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I listened to an interview with GWB on the Hannity show tonight
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You realize Bush won't be running again, right?
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Re: "...if you don't, you get stuck in Iraq"
Old 11-01-2006, 11:25 AM   #42
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Re: "...if you don't, you get stuck in Iraq"

I didn't bother reading this thread until today but I am amazed at how few people actually checked out the context of Kerry's statement. Sqee is the only one who got it right. Kerry was telling jokes (or as close to jokes as Mr. stiff can come) at the beginning of a speech. He joked about Bush being not in the state of Texas, but the state of denial and then went on to make a lame. poorly constructed joke about failure Bush's failure to get educated and getting stuck in Iraq because he is so dumb.

You can't look at the entire statement including the lead in jokes and reach a conclusion that he was talking about the troops. (You could reach a conclusion thta he is also dumb for constructing such an idiotic ambiguous sounding "joke").

This is also proof positive that the media don't have a "left" bias. Almost none of the mainstream media provide the context. They are basically taking the Rovian spin and running with it. They completely miss the reality.
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. . . and then went on to make a lame. poorly constructed joke about failure Bush's failure to get educated . . .
Well this is patently ridiculous since Bush attended Yale University, where he received a Bachelor of Arts degree in history in 1968 and an MBA from Harvard University (Bush is the only US President to serve holding a Master of Business Administration degree).

I think Kerry has defected and is a closet Republican. He is trying to "throw" the election for the Dems, and doing a damn good job!
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They are basically taking the Rovian spin and running with it. They completely miss the reality.
Yep, us right-wingers are the Holy Rovian Empire.

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If you don't vote, you don't count. That's not original with me, but learn it, live it. JG are you listening?
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Old 11-02-2006, 08:22 AM   #47
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I figured that Kerry's statement was taken out of context. That assumption being based on today's media is centered around a >10 second sound bite. I mean, who has the time to listen to a 45 second sound bite these days?

I tried searching the net for the full video clip of Kerry's speech (or at least enough to provide some context). Anyone have a link?
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Old 11-02-2006, 08:29 AM   #48
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If you don't vote, you don't count. That's not original with me, but learn it, live it. JG are you listening?
Yep. I take the Mark Twain approach..................
Don't vote. It only encourages them.

Seriously, I agree that the right to vote is sacred. I merely choose not to exercise it.

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I saw a clip on TV, and it was obvious that he got mixed up in the middle of the joke. Of course he meant to say ""You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get us stuck in Iraq." Bush and Rove know that.

To me this is an example of why, in today's world, democracy isn't working. I'm not saying a better system would work better. I'm saying that the combination of poorly educated voters and well-educated campaign managers leads to important decisions being made on the basis of irrelevant sound bites.
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We did a quick survey in my office of 12, we are all Army, which the Air Force will joke is the dumbest branch.

Of the 12 who work in my office we have:

11 Bachelors Degrees
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We also have someone who worked the White House during the Clinton era, apparently Hillary yelled at him for wearing his uniform in “Her House” and from then on they were not aloud to wear their uniforms in the White House but had to wear a suit and tie for briefings.

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Man that speaks volumes, doesn't it?
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We did a quick survey in my office of 12, we are all Army, which the Air Force will joke is the dumbest branch.

Of the 12 who work in my office we have:

11 Bachelors Degrees
8 Masters Degrees
5 with Double Masters


We also have someone who worked the White House during the Clinton era, apparently Hillary yelled at him for wearing his uniform in “Her House” and from then on they were not aloud to wear their uniforms in the White House but had to wear a suit and tie for briefings.

P.S. Look at the picture below, LOL!
Lance, that is the funniest thing I have seen in quite awhile...........ROTFLMAO!!!

Hillary is a witch............
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We also have someone who worked the White House during the Clinton era, apparently Hillary yelled at him for wearing his uniform in “Her House” and from then on they were not aloud to wear their uniforms in the White House but had to wear a suit and tie for briefings.
While I was stationed at a foreign base we had numerous high ranking government types visit. Many were just passing through, but all of them with the exception of one took 15 minutes to say thanks we appreciate all you are doing for the country. The one exception was Hillary Clinton. She lost a lot of respect on that trip.
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Man that speaks volumes, doesn't it?
Apparently not enough for her to not want her own military liaison officer someday...
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No one, however, seems concerned that the House Majority Leader (John Boehner, R-OH) said they would beat Kerry to death until he apologizes. That's situation normal? blech :P
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No one, however, seems concerned that the House Majority Leader (John Boehner, R-OH) said they would beat Kerry to death until he apologizes. That's situation normal? blech :P
Be fair. That is obviously figurative language. Have you been in Italy so long that you have forgotten common expressions like this?
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Be fair. That is obviously figurative language. Have you been in Italy so long that you have forgotten common expressions like this?
What, you mean like "stay the course"?
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No one, however, seems concerned that the House Majority Leader (John Boehner, R-OH) said they would beat Kerry to death until he apologizes. That's situation normal? blech :P
It's a moot point because he has already apologized. So Kerry gets to live. . .
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What, you mean like "stay the course"?
Clinton lied!

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