Amazon is *slow* without Prime

[ChiliPepr]

Again, missing my point.

Why is it 10 calendar days for delivery?

The items - two of them- were all in stock.
All fulfilled by Amazon.


I care that the 10 calendar days was deliberately manipulated.
It was artificial.

Were the items in stock in the NJ warehouses or was it in the Seattle warehouse where they put it on a truck to NJ and then shipped out?

If you were Prime they may have used UPS 2 day from Seattle instead of moving them to NJ and then shipping them out.

Why can't I make assumptions or opinions?
Isn't this a message board for discussion?

And other people's assumptions are that Amazon is not manipulating the shipping, they do all prime and people that paid for fast shipping first, and then do all non-prime shipping. I would not be surprised if Amazon had a "must ship by" internal date on orders and as long as your order is before that date and there are other prime orders to fill, the order gets pushed back. I do not believe that amazon has an "If not prime delay shipping until date". Amazon wants as many customers as possible and if they could get everything delivered in two days they would do it, but with their volume they cannot do it, so the non-Prime users get pushed to the back of the line, and continually let Prime customers cut in front.

My personal Prime experience is that if I order on Monday before about 2pm I receive the package on Wednesday.

 

[ERD50]

... I would not be surprised if Amazon had a "must ship by" internal date on orders and as long as your order is before that date and there are other prime orders to fill, the order gets pushed back. I do not believe that amazon has an "If not prime delay shipping until date". Amazon wants as many customers as possible...

Agreed. Another point against Amazon intentionally degrading their Non-Prime service to push people to Prime - they recently cut their minimum for Non-Prime 'free shipping' from $35 back to $25. That's good for the Non-Prime among us.

-ERD50

 

[Big_Hitter]

how much does prime cost a year?

 

[audreyh1]

how much does prime cost a year?

$99.

Includes free two-day shipping, Amazon video (which has a lot of shows including Amazon original content), various other perks such as music. 5% cash back/rewards for members buying with the Amazon Store Card or Amazon VISA (versus 3% cash back or rewards).

 

[Big_Hitter]

$99.

Includes free two-day shipping, Amazon video (which has a lot of shows including Amazon original content), various other perks such as music. 5% cash back/rewards for members buying with the Amazon Store Card or Amazon VISA (versus 3% cash back or rewards).

seems like it's worth it

 

[ERD50]

seems like it's worth it

For some people.

I've only used their Prime video/music once, I almost never feel the need for faster shipping, and even though I buy a lot, the 5% vs 3% doesn't come close.

If I do need fast shipping a few times a year, I can pay for it and be ahead.

Others find value in it for various reasons, it's not one size fits all.

-ERD50

 

[Big_Hitter]

For some people.

I've only used their Prime video/music once, I almost never feel the need for faster shipping, and even though I buy a lot, the 5% vs 3% doesn't come close.

If I do need fast shipping a few times a year, I can pay for it and be ahead.

Others find value in it for various reasons, it's not one size fits all.

-ERD50

seems like a lot of consternation for 8 bucks a month - the shipping itself makes it a no brainer

 

[ERD50]

seems like a lot of consternation for 8 bucks a month - the shipping itself makes it a no brainer

How is it 'a lot of consternation' (consternation: Feelings of anxiety or dismay, typically at something unexpected.), to not want to pay for something I wouldn't get much, if any value from?

I avoid those routine monthly/annual bills if I can. I'd rather pick and choose value as I see it. Just not a fan of subscription services in general, unless there is a clear benefit for me.

The shipping would be a no-brainer if I was spending >$99 annually to expedite shipments, but I don't. So why should I spend $99 to 'save' what I don't spend anyhow?

I did say it's worth it for some people. I'm not trying to apply my situation to anyone else. I do wonder if some people over-estimate the benefit of the 2 day shipping though, like I said, I rarely care if I get it in less than 10 days. And I can pay if I do need it, and it would be less than $99.

To be honest, it's pretty rude to say it's a no-brainer, after I told you I decided it's not for me. You are in effect, saying I have no brain. Yes, that's rude. You should realize some people use their brain, and come to a different conclusion than you for their circumstance. Does that make them stupid?

OK, now maybe I'm in 'consternation' territory!

-ERD50

 

[Pilot2013]

Wow... This is almost as entertaining as some of the political threads. And since it isn't, no Porky!

 

[W2R]

For me, the speedier shipping is a great way to spend some discretionary money. Before I had Prime, I never paid for faster shipping; it's not that I *need* faster shipping. It just makes me very happy. I know that probably isn't true for everyone, but it is for me; I get more happiness per dollar from spending this money on Prime, than from any other use that I can think of.

I don't use many of the other benefits of Amazon Prime but I get a lot of value from it.

 

[FIREmenow]

For me, the speedier shipping is a great way to spend some discretionary money. Before I had Prime, I never paid for faster shipping; it's not that I *need* faster shipping. It just makes me very happy. I know that probably isn't true for everyone, but it is for me; I get more happiness per dollar from spending this money on Prime, than from any other use that I can think of.

+1

Since we cut the cable TV cord (and saved that money), what little TV we do watch is Amazon Prime Video (included, and PLENTY to choose from), so it's a win-win.

 

[MichaelB]

To be honest, it's pretty rude to say it's a no-brainer, after I told you I decided it's not for me. You are in effect, saying I have no brain. Yes, that's rude. You should realize some people use their brain, and come to a different conclusion than you for their circumstance. Does that make them stupid?

I think the term "no brainer" is not meant to be taken literally. In this case, my guess is "no brainer" means it is easy to figure out if it is or is not a good deal for you.

 

[Big_Hitter]

I think the term "no brainer" is not meant to be taken literally. In this case, my guess is "no brainer" means it is easy to figure out if it is or is not a good deal for you.

correct

 

[Big_Hitter]

How is it 'a lot of consternation' (consternation: Feelings of anxiety or dismay, typically at something unexpected.), to not want to pay for something I wouldn't get much, if any value from?

I avoid those routine monthly/annual bills if I can. I'd rather pick and choose value as I see it. Just not a fan of subscription services in general, unless there is a clear benefit for me.

The shipping would be a no-brainer if I was spending >$99 annually to expedite shipments, but I don't. So why should I spend $99 to 'save' what I don't spend anyhow?

I did say it's worth it for some people. I'm not trying to apply my situation to anyone else. I do wonder if some people over-estimate the benefit of the 2 day shipping though, like I said, I rarely care if I get it in less than 10 days. And I can pay if I do need it, and it would be less than $99.

To be honest, it's pretty rude to say it's a no-brainer, after I told you I decided it's not for me. You are in effect, saying I have no brain. Yes, that's rude. You should realize some people use their brain, and come to a different conclusion than you for their circumstance. Does that make them stupid?

OK, now maybe I'm in 'consternation' territory!

-ERD50

you answered your own question

IMO, life is too short to quibble about something as trivial as $8 a month. The length of this thread is somewhat shocking, actually.

 

[audreyh1]

For me, the speedier shipping is a great way to spend some discretionary money. Before I had Prime, I never paid for faster shipping; it's not that I *need* faster shipping. It just makes me very happy. I know that probably isn't true for everyone, but it is for me; I get more happiness per dollar from spending this money on Prime, than from any other use that I can think of.

I don't use many of the other benefits of Amazon Prime but I get a lot of value from it.

We got prime way back when it first came out at $79 per year in 2005.

We got it because a) it removed the $25 minimum for free shipping so we didn't have to hassle with waiting until we had enough items in our cart to go over that limit before ordering and b) we got things in two days instead of a week, great for last minute needs.

We essentially saw it as a pre-paying for fast shipping. For us a "convenience" fee.

As a consequence, we started ordering a lot more from Amazon as the barriers (cost, time) of ordering online were removed/lowered. No surprise there, I'm sure Amazon figured people would do exactly as we did.

Then when we changed to the full-time RV the two-day shipping was a real lifesaver as we rarely stayed anywhere more than a week, and it was great to be able to get something fast when we needed it.

Amazon added some other perks and raised the price to $99 a couple of years ago.

We still comparison shop for both price and delivery. We still order a lot from Amazon as well as occasionally from other online suppliers.

 

[Big_Hitter]

We still comparison shop for both price and delivery. We still order a lot from Amazon as well as occasionally from other online suppliers.

free shipping makes it so much easier to get the small things, like shoestrings or valve stem caps, etc.

certainly beats going to the store

 

[ERD50]

I think the term "no brainer" is not meant to be taken literally. In this case, my guess is "no brainer" means it is easy to figure out if it is or is not a good deal for you.

I suppose, but maybe people should be more careful in using that term. If I haven't already, I should post that to the 'pet peeves' thread .

-ERD50

 

[Big_Hitter]

I suppose, but maybe people should be more careful in using that term. If I haven't already, I should post that to the 'pet peeves' thread .

-ERD50

my apologies. I rarely resort to name calling.

In common parlance, the term is used to denote easy decisions. I meant no offense.

 

[audreyh1]

free shipping makes it so much easier to get the small things, like shoestrings or valve stem caps, etc.

certainly beats going to the store

Definitely!

There is both a cost in time and $ for getting in the car and driving to the store. Here the grocery stores are 20 mins away, and farther to the big box stores.

And you had better make sure they have what you want!

 

[NW-Bound]

My 1st order with Amazon was in 1997. They keep my account record forever, else I would not remember.

Tried their "free" Prime once, then cancelled it as I do not buy enough "stuff" to make it worthwhile. I have noticed the slow shipping once or twice, same as the OP did. Don't know the reason, but I noticed.

I do not use Amazon as much as some people. I have found that oddball things that I need such as pool and RV parts are also available on eBay for roughly the same price with shipping considered. And by choosing vendors in the same state or nearby ones, I often get the merchandise in 1 to 3 days. Selling on eBay is very competitive, and vendors try hard to get good reviews as that is the only thing that differentiate them, prices being often the same between them.

PS. I once got a shipment from an eBay vendor that came with Amazon markings! This guy apparently sold on both venues.

 

[ERD50]

my apologies. I rarely resort to name calling.

In common parlance, the term is used to denote easy decisions. I meant no offense.

OK, thanks - accepted.

I just saw your follow up, and...

Originally Posted by Big_Hitter View Post
free shipping makes it so much easier to get the small things, like shoestrings or valve stem caps, etc.

certainly beats going to the store

No big deal, but I can say this isn't a problem for me. With the $35 or $25 limit for free non-Prime shipping, I just keep a bunch of 'need someday, non time critical' things on a wish list, and use them to fill out the cart if I need, or add them on if I'm getting to the point that I'm running low on that small item and already hit the $25/$35 requirement. Amazon makes it easy.

-ERD50.

 

[ERD50]

...
I do not use Amazon as much as some people. I have found that oddball things that I need such as pool and RV parts are also available on eBay for roughly the same price with shipping considered. And by choosing vendors in the same state or nearby ones, I often get the merchandise in 1 to 3 days.

Ahhh, I need to check that. Most of the stuff I bought on ebay is the 'slow boat from China' variety. Very cheap. But now I recall you can select the distance for the seller, so I should try that when I am looking on ebay, and not the cheap China kind of thing.

-ERD50

 

[NW-Bound]

When I need some small parts in a hurry, for example a Klixon bimetallic temperature switch, instead of using a Chinese vendor I would specify a US vendor and pay another $1 to get it quick.