Mr._johngalt
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
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Damn, I'm starting to feel like Mr Rogers.
JG
JG
Laurence said:I'm a big boy and can take an arrow, but my concern is we have had too many threads like this as of late (for example, Charlie) where members have said goodbye because of the confrontational tone this board has taken at times.
HaHa said:IMO, the limits are simple. One shouldn't use gutter language or crude references in a disparaging way against some named individual; or be easily identifies as a psychotic. Short of that, so what?
I do think in a more general way, most of the leavers have been passive aggressive twits (esp. those who leave behind bible references). IMO, if someone wants to leave, he should go ahead. Someone will take his place. But he should have the class to shut up about his oh-so-precious reasons for doing so. It’s just an unbecoming girly way of getting even.
Right. My comment referred only to the noisey ones. But I think you forget another reason for leaving- it can get just too boring. Once you have an idea what you are doing ER-wise, you have to look around for other reasons for staying. For some, the role of senior advice giver-guru is very attractive. Some don't get much mileage out of that, but do enjoy the banter. Otherwise, what is the point of hanging around if you don't need hand holding? I mean, how interesting is "I only need 15 more years and $1.5 million more and then I am out of here? Or even worse, if someone would just give me $20,000,000 I could start a business. Who the heck couldn't?BigMoneyJim said:There are at least two types of leavers. The noisy ones are the the ones most often noticed, but there are quite a few regular contributors who have quietly disappeared. We don't know about all cases, but some of the quiet leavers leave because of the argumentative threads.
Good point, but last time I went to Unread Posts and didn't see anything I was interested in and just marked them "all read", no one jumped out of my computer and made me read the posts anyway.Not everyone has thick skin, and not all that do care to read some of this stuff.
HaHa said:most of the leavers have been passive aggressive twits
I stick around to watch you more, er, senior ERs for signs that your ER stamina is in jeopardy. Mikey, Jarhead, Eagle, you guys are my canaries in the mineshaft. "Breathe deep."HaHa said:Once you have an idea what you are doing ER-wise, you have to look around for other reasons for staying.
wabmester said:Ha, you ignorant slut.
Nords said:I stick around to watch you more, er, senior ERs for signs that your ER stamina is in jeopardy. Mikey, Jarhead, Eagle, you guys are my canaries in the mineshaft. "Breathe deep."
HA,
I stepped on a tack, peed my pants, ran to mom, she was doing "you know what" with a stanger and blamed you.
Any more good advice
Nords said:I stick around to watch you more, er, senior ERs for signs that your ER stamina is in jeopardy. Mikey, Jarhead, Eagle, you guys are my canaries in the mineshaft. "Breathe deep."
dory36 said:The social stuff is not insignificant. Outside of the time I was boating, where perhaps 2/3 were ERs, I have had chance encounters with . . . uhhh . . . well, maybe I haven't met ANYONE who is a real ER. Several who were medically retired, several unable to hold a job, many between jobs, but I can't remember any bone fide retirees who retired early like we all talk about here.
Awfully hard to have discussions of these sort of issues with people who simply can't comprehend the idea of retiring early.
Yeah....I know what you mean. I told my boss last December of my plans to retire in 2 years. I wanted to give him plenty of time to bring someone in for me to train and to plan for the purchase of my stock. Just yesterday we were having a pow wow session and he asked if I still planned to retire next year(with a little smile on his face). He is 64 and plans to retire at 70. So many just can't comprehend why some of us would want to retire early. I got a reminder why yesterday. An old school buddy of mine died yesterday at the age of 51.MRGALT2U said:When I announced I was quitting for good..........shock and awe.
JG
DOG51 said:Yeah....I know what you mean. I told my boss last December of my plans to retire in 2 years. I wanted to give him plenty of time to bring someone in for me to train and to plan for the purchase of my stock. Just yesterday we were having a pow wow session and he asked if I still planned to retire next year(with a little smile on his face). He is 64 and plans to retire at 70. So many just can't comprehend why some of us would want to retire early. I got a reminder why yesterday. An old school buddy of mine died yesterday at the age of 51.
MRGALT2U said:Yep, and as I age those "reminders" (of why I ERed) are increasing
rapidly.
JG
MRGALT2U said:I have had the same experience. Can not recall meeting an actual
honest-to-God ER face to face, ever! Oops, just thought of one. He is about my age and did it on a shoestring like I did, and has been retired about as long. Easier for him. Very very low level spending, yet he stills winters
in Arizona and lives near me in the summer. Anyway, I know a lot of people.
When I announced I was quitting for good..........shock and awe.
JG
MRGALT2U said:Guy says, "Oh, he is back at work."
He runs the DP Dept for a manufacturing company.
I just don't get it unless he has crappy insurance and has to pay some
medical bills himself. Even then?
JG
MJ said:I have a theory which came to me as I was thinking of a reply. :
Scientists someday will probably discover that we ERs have a "defective work gene". Depending on the individual, starting from the age of 30ish, the gene begins to disintegrate to nothing. This may happen instantaneously or take upto 50 years if you can survive.
That is why some people begin to struggle at work. Their gene is at different stages of disintegration but they need to continue to work to build an adequate nest egg and support their family.
Well, it's a theory.
MJ
ex-Jarhead said:JG: Well, it could be that the early ritirees in Illinois have all fled the winters and escaped to warmer climes.
More likely, (based on my own experience), you have probably not been shooting in "target rich environments". (See Dorys post).
We have a 22 man traveling golf team (sponsored by the NCGA) that plays a home and home series with 8 other clubs once a week that lasts about 4 mos. or so.
All the players are retired, and ages range from about 40 on the low side, and I am by a wide margin, the oldest on our team. Average probably about 48 or so.
Whether you were a butcher, baker, candle-stick maker, or MD, any reference to your previous career is treated by a blank stare, and a quick change of subject, as in "are any of you guys going to play in the Pacific Grove Invitational next month?
Honestly, the only time I'm exposed to any large degree, with the "working world" is on this forum. ie: "I used to be this", " I want to be this" I'm tired of this", so forth. Oh, and the biggee, "Do I have enough to retire?"
Entertainment, pure and simple, keeps me interested enough to average one post a day.
(Even if the content isn't worth anything, it's easy to disregard.)
When I was in South Padre last December/January, every 60-year old I met was from Illinois or Michigan. Well, most of them were. They were doing 2-3 months, then returning; so they said...ex-Jarhead said:JG: Well, it could be that the early ritirees in Illinois have all fled the winters and escaped to warmer climes.
HaHa said:I do think in a more general way, most of the leavers have been passive aggressive twits (esp. those who leave behind bible references). IMO, if someone wants to leave, he should go ahead. Someone will take his place. But he should have the class to shut up about his oh-so-precious reasons for doing so. It’s just an unbecoming girly way of getting even.
Ha