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At this point, I'm not very optimistic at all. If the deadline is met, I am guessing August 1st at 2355 Eastern time complete with some weird ceremony by whomever will try and take the credit for it all.
I'm pessimistic too. I think the mainstream Republicans may find themselves between a rock and a hard place now that the vote on Speaker Boehner's plan has been postponed. Unless they pull together enough votes to pass that plan tomorrow, the Democrats can put forward their plan on Monday, and the non-Tea Party Republicans will be faced with a choice between voting with the Democrats or getting to take the blame for whatever happens if the ceiling isn't raised before Tuesday. If the Boehner plan does go through, then the Democrats will be the ones who get painted into a corner. Either they pass Boehner's plan and the President signs it, and we have to go through the whole mess again before the 2012 election, or they don't, and then the D's are the ones who have to pull a rabbit out of a hat by coming up with a plan that both houses can approve in an extremely short time frame.At this point, I'm not very optimistic at all. If the deadline is met, I am guessing August 1st at 2355 Eastern time complete with some weird ceremony by whomever will try and take the credit for it all.
I'm pessimistic too. .... Either they pass Boehner's plan and the President signs it, and we have to go through the whole mess again before the 2012 election, or they don't, and then the D's are the ones who have to pull a rabbit out of a hat by coming up with a plan that both houses can approve in an extremely short time frame.
The resolution is easy, actually. Moody's writes a budget, sends it to congress and says, "Pass this today or we drop your credit rate to junk bond status on Monday."
I had not seen the linked story when I wrote my comment last night. Yes, since the House has passed Speaker Boehner's bill, we are "already there" and the ball is now in the Democrats' court. And now that I've re-read the front page of this thread asking to keep it non-political, that's all I am going to say about that (on this thread).I'm pessimistic too.(snip)If the Boehner plan does go through, then the Democrats will be the ones who get painted into a corner. Either they pass Boehner's plan and the President signs it, and we have to go through the whole mess again before the 2012 election, or they don't, and then the D's are the ones who have to pull a rabbit out of a hat by coming up with a plan that both houses can approve in an extremely short time frame.
Like dessert, I really am starting think this will go literally to the 11th hour—if not beyond.
Aren't we already there? The House has already passed a bill, but as I understand it, the D-controlled Senate won't pass it, and The President has said he would veto it.
House passes GOP debt measure; Obama praises compromise plan - CNN
-ERD50
And still in the running per T-Al's pool's rules ("If you think the debt ceiling problem will be resolved before Aug 2, predict the date and time that you think the resolution will be announced."):
Purron: revised to: 6PM Washington, DC time - July 31st.
Arebelspy: Aug 1, 9:55am EST
Bestwifeever: August 1, noon DC time
T-Al: 8/1, 11:20 pm
GregLee: Aug 1, 11:40 PM
dessert: August 1st at 2355 Eastern time
Purron said:Somewhere I read it's important to resolve this before the markets open in Japan. Made sense to me. Since Japan is ahead of us time wise, I'd say August 1st right before the Japanese markets open.
Given the level of comradery and fair play between lawmakers, I'm not breathing a sigh of relief until the President signs it.
I'm not breathing a sigh of relief until I actually see the debt coming down. I'm interested in results, not words/proposals/posturing.
I guess it comes from a career in Manufacturing. If it didn't ship, it didn't count.
-ERD50
Of course, that's another question. When is it resolved?If this resolution holds, then the winner will be (drum roll): Purron. The news bulletin came on at 5:39 PM PDT (or 8:39 EDT), 7/31/11 on the CBS news.
Since it isn't finally resolved until the Pres. signs it into law, I see this as the time it's "done" - and it isn't done yet.When the president signs it?
Since it isn't finally resolved until the Pres. signs it into law, I see this as the time it's "done" - and it isn't done yet.
I'm not breathing a sigh of relief until I actually see the debt coming down. I'm interested in results, not words/proposals/posturing.
I guess it comes from a career in Manufacturing. If it didn't ship, it didn't count.
-ERD50