Restaurants

[ivinsfan]

Unfortunately that number applies over all age groups. For those of us 60+ on this forum the chances of having truly mild symptoms is far lower.

And you also really have to think about infecting other people. We are already practicing social distancing because we don’t want to spread the virus to the elder care home where DF stays. You may be lucky to have a mild case, but you will also contribute to spreading before you even realize you are sick.

It's more then likely that your DF's care home will be shut off to all visitors. It would hard for you to have gone through all these plans to be near him and not be able to visit. They closed all the care homes to all visitors in our area on Thursday...

 

[Midpack]

Unfortunately that number applies over all age groups. For those of us 60+ on this forum the chances of having truly mild symptoms is far lower.

And you also really have to think about infecting other people. We are already practicing social distancing because we don’t want to spread the virus to the elder care home where DF stays. You may be lucky to have a mild case, but you will also contribute to spreading before you even realize you are sick.

Lower undoubtedly, far lower is TBD.

And 80-90% mild symptoms doesn’t mean 10-20% fatalities. Most of the latter will have worse symptoms presumably like a bad flu, not fatal though. The estimates I’ve seen so far are 1-4% deaths of those infected, preliminary I realize.

I’m not trying to minimize the risks, but some people may be overreacting as well. Personal choice.

Anyone who is that concerned shouldn’t be going to restaurants or any large gathering at all. If you’re out with the public, good habits and wiping everything you think of won’t guarantee you’re safe. Some of the actions above may fall into the can’t see the forest for the trees category.

A breakdown of the deaths does offer some guidance as to which people are most at risk — primarily the elderly. Based on a rough estimate using the range of ages given for the victims, we can tell that the average age of each victim is around 78 years old.

No one younger than 40 has died from the disease in the U.S. And even the one person in their 40s who did die had an underlying medical condition. Many of the elderly who died also had underlying medical conditions.

https://www.kxan.com/news/coronavirus/everything-we-know-about-the-26-coronavirus-deaths-in-the-u-s/

 

[Ready]

If we try to adhere to the recommendation to keep 3-6 feet away from others, eating in a restaurant becomes virtually impossible. You are certainly going to be closer than 3 feet from anyone you are sharing a table with. And in crowded restaurants with tables packed close together you are going to be within less than 3 feet from quite a few people.

 

[Ready]

The mayor of Los Angeles just advised people not to eat in restaurants. He suggests ordering takeout to try and support local establishments.

https://la.eater.com/2020/3/13/2117...cetti-eating-out-restaurants-press-conference

 

[scrabbler1]

I don't eat out very often but in April (my birthday month), I expect to go out to eat a few times. We go out at off-peak days and times, so the restaurant is never more than half full and we are rarely if ever close to any other diners.

 

[pacergal]

We don't eat out as often as we used too. I always have hand sanitizer in my purse and use it after touching the menu, I use napkins to hold the salt and pepper if I use it.
Many restaurants here are announcing closing to eat in and starting drive up. A well respected big Steak house announced a 6 week closure! I have doubts that they will actually re open, but they were/are a very popular place.

 

[Fermion]

Papa Murphy's take and bake pizza is probably one i will still do, on Tuesdays when it is $10.99 for any pizza including pan gourmet delite.

They wrap it in plastic. You can pick it up, put it in the car, take it home, dispose of plastic and wash your hands, then you bake it for 18 minutes which is going to kill anything.

Probably as safe as going to the grocery store.

 

[Mr. Tightwad]

Just enjoyed a chipotle chicken wrap from Panera. It was to go, like always.

 

[jazz4cash]

Picking the glass up from the bottom is definitely better. But that is where I need to put my hand when I pick up the glass to take a sip. So while keeping her hands away from where I put my mouth is good, it still requires me to handle the glass with my hands in the same place that she held it with her hands. And the hands are one of the most common ways to transfer the virus. So either way is not ideal.

Why not just ask the person to place the glass by the side of the table so they can reach it without touching it?

How would the glass ever even get onto the table? Maybe provide a stack of glasses and customers grab one as they are being seated? Plates too?

Unless you wear gloves and change them frequently or can't help touching your face, it's a problem. If I am sensitive to that, I'm staying home.

 

[Chuckanut]

Gift cards are like a bond without either interest or any claim to leftover assets. But I guess if you want to support your local restaurant, you go into it knowing it might just be a 'donation'.

I agree. Consider gift cards as a loan/gift. Then there is the It's a Wonderful Life approach - support a local small guy/gal so as to keep the MegaCorp giants from being our only alternative.

 

[Chapter 3]

Still going out to my short list of locally owned restaurants and breweries, although probably a little less. Having worked restaurants in my younger days I have always understood the additional exposure that you get to germs in this environment.

 

[tmm99]

I've just found out someone in the local area flew back sick on a plane and didn't go to ER for 4 days (and they didn't release what he did for the 4 days), plus all these people who might have gotten infected on his plane, so no more restaurants for me...

 

[Sunset]

Papa Murphy's take and bake pizza is probably one i will still do, on Tuesdays when it is $10.99 for any pizza including pan gourmet delite.

They wrap it in plastic. You can pick it up, put it in the car, take it home, dispose of plastic and wash your hands, then you bake it for 18 minutes which is going to kill anything.

Probably as safe as going to the grocery store.

We used to have one near us years ago. It was GREAT, I really liked it, I'd even add a few more things to before baking as I like my pizza full of stuff.

 

[Sunset]

Unfortunately that number applies over all age groups. For those of us 60+ on this forum the chances of having truly mild symptoms is far lower.

And you also really have to think about infecting other people. We are already practicing social distancing because we don’t want to spread the virus to the elder care home where DF stays. You may be lucky to have a mild case, but you will also contribute to spreading before you even realize you are sick.

+1
It's not just my risk at stake, but we see a number of folks over 80 every week, so if I get infected, I'd possibly spread it to them before knowing I'm infected.

 

[NW-Bound]

... We are already practicing social distancing because we don’t want to spread the virus to the elder care home where DF stays...

My wife is the caretaker of my MIL who is 93. MIL is frail, and can take care of her personal hygiene, but needs someone to cook for her. I keep reminding my wife that she absolutely has to be sure she does not bring home the virus. And I cannot get infected and spread it to my wife.

 

[ivinsfan]

I've just found out someone in the local area flew back sick on a plane and didn't go to ER for 4 days (and they didn't release what he did for the 4 days), plus all these people who might have gotten infected on his plane, so no more restaurants for me...

there is a name for people like this..can't use it here...

 

[audreyh1]

It's more then likely that your DF's care home will be shut off to all visitors. It would hard for you to have gone through all these plans to be near him and not be able to visit. They closed all the care homes to all visitors in our area on Thursday...

It’s not going to be that simple. Sitters and family provide direct care for my dad and I have to pay the sitters. He is also in hospice. It is not a nursing home staffed with caregivers.

My wife is the caretaker of my MIL who is 93. MIL is frail, and can take care of her personal hygiene, but needs someone to cook for her. I keep reminding my wife that she absolutely has to be sure she does not bring home the virus. And I cannot get infected and spread it to my wife.

Exactly!

 

[audreyh1]

Lower undoubtedly, far lower is TBD.

And 80-90% mild symptoms doesn’t mean 10-20% fatalities. Most of the latter will have worse symptoms presumably like a bad flu, not fatal though. The estimates I’ve seen so far are 1-4% deaths of those infected, preliminary I realize.

I’m not trying to minimize the risks, but some people may be overreacting as well. Personal choice.

Anyone who is that concerned shouldn’t be going to restaurants or any large gathering at all. If you’re out with the public, good habits and wiping everything you think of won’t guarantee you’re safe. Some of the actions above may fall into the can’t see the forest for the trees category.

https://www.kxan.com/news/coronavirus/everything-we-know-about-the-26-coronavirus-deaths-in-the-u-s/

Concerns are that the WHO has included pneumonia in their list of “mild” cases - that doesn’t sound so mild to me. And then there is the ability to get adequate treatment if you end up with bad pneumonia and the medical system is overloaded.

 

[ivinsfan]

It’s not going to be that simple. Sitters and family provide direct care for my dad and I have to pay the sitters. He is also in hospice. It is not a nursing home staffed with caregivers.


Exactly!

Best thoughts for your Dad, his caregivers and you..a difficult situation even without a pandemic going on

 

[38Chevy454]

Just a (to me anyway) funny observation on the replies here. How is the waiter or waitress supposed to bring you food and drink if they can't touch anything? Haven't seen anybody with talented enough elbows to do it, needs to be hands.
My wife and I are still going out to eat, not reducing the amount of times or changing to carry out.

 

[Ready]

Just a (to me anyway) funny observation on the replies here. How is the waiter or waitress supposed to bring you food and drink if they can't touch anything? Haven't seen anybody with talented enough elbows to do it, needs to be hands.
My wife and I are still going out to eat, not reducing the amount of times or changing to carry out.

I would like to see them wearing gloves and changing them very frequently.

 

[homestead]

Papa Murphy's take and bake pizza is probably one i will still do, on Tuesdays when it is $10.99 for any pizza including pan gourmet delite.

They wrap it in plastic. You can pick it up, put it in the car, take it home, dispose of plastic and wash your hands, then you bake it for 18 minutes which is going to kill anything.

Probably as safe as going to the grocery store.

Good idea, you can order online and just go in and pickup.

 

[Jerry1]

Just read an article that in Michigan, restaurants have been ordered to cut their seating in half. Not sure they needed an order to do that, but a little space at times like this seems like a good idea. I sure hope this doesn't kill off all our good restaurants.

 

[USGrant1962]

Just read an article that in Michigan, restaurants have been ordered to cut their seating in half. Not sure they needed an order to do that, but a little space at times like this seems like a good idea. I sure hope this doesn't kill off all our good restaurants.

I just searched and can't find that news anywhere. And who can order that? Is Michigan now a dictatorship?

 

[Jerry1]

Just read an article that in Michigan, restaurants have been ordered to cut their seating in half. Not sure they needed an order to do that, but a little space at times like this seems like a good idea. I sure hope this doesn't kill off all our good restaurants.

I just searched and can't find that news anywhere. And who can order that? Is Michigan now a dictatorship?

Sorry - Just Oakland County. My mistake.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/o...occupancy-in-half/ar-BB11cton?ocid=spartandhp

https://www.freep.com/story/news/lo...d-county-cut-occupancy-50-percent/5052538002/