DayDreaming
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+1. I'm impressed as well, though it's still not perfect. V12 is a little better than V11 in some ways, unchanged in others, but presumably V12 is learning day by day.
At least based on my 3+ months experience, I have no doubt FSD V12 can safely take you from any location to another at least 99% of the time no matter what the circumstances.
The only clear areas for improvement to me are:
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- While it handles traffic signals perfectly, including right turn on red, FSD is still just too cautious at stop signs. It stops on the line no matter what, then very slowly creeps forward, and waits for an excessively large gap to enter - at least on unprotected left turns. I am by no means an aggressive driver, FSD is more cautious with stop signs than any human, especially on unprotected left turns.
- It's overly cautious with pedestrians. Even a person standing next to the road who is clearly not going to cross gets a wide berth from FSD. A human driver can more easily tell when to be cautious around pedestrians.
- FSD is more conservative with yellow lights than humans.
- FSD is very good at reading and adjusting to speed limit changes, but it will get it wrong occasionally. It's a simple matter to override with the right scroll wheel, and I assume it will get better.
Again if you stop and think about all the decisions FSD has to make, and knowing that road signs and markings aren't always as they should be, it's amazing how far Tesla FSD has come. I still don't know how they will handle night, pouring rain, snow or iced over roads (surely they have plans), but I don't doubt FSD will be at least 99% capable in fair weather.
FSD v12 is my first try at FSD, with the free 1 month trial.
I agree with everything you said. It's absolutely amazing what it can do, it hasn't done anything too wrong or scary even once so far. But it's so conservative at making turns and proceeding at stop signs, I'll take it out of FSD is someone is behind me, or else they'd get very annoyed.
One thing that really bothers me is that it puts the turn signal on far too early. For example, I was making a turn 1 block past an intersection with a traffic light, and it put the left turn signal on before the traffic light. Other times I could tell that other drivers thought I was going to turn into some store parking lot when I was really turning at the next intersection a good distance ahead.
I've driven in some rainy weather, nothing too terrible, and FSD gives me a warning that "FSD may be degraded. Poor weather detected" and it sometimes lowers the speed below the speed limit.