Sincere apology to Tiger
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Tiger will be getting richer and richer now. Lol He might be able to even retire.
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And play some golf?
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robnplunder
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If his body held up, there would be no controversy over who is/was the best golfer of all time between Jack and Tiger. It'd be Tiger on landslide. Even now, personally, I think Tiger has the definitive edge over Jack given how the world of golf grew. There are far more professional golfer vying for stardom than when Jack was in his prime.
Hmm, Bridgestone may be the biggest winner today.
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As long as he stops giving $100 million to women he divorces then he'll be good to retire.
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Why Bridgestone and not Nike? All I saw was Nike. Tigers shirt, hat, and the big 'swoosh' on his kids shirt.
You're probably close to right, but no one will ever find out who is winning the tourney. Guess that doesn't matter.
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Did you not notice the logo on the ball he kept rolling into the cup? Bridgestone. Nothing can beat that time the ball almost stopped and then dropped - highlighting the Nike logo. Unfortunately, Nike no longer mass balls. So, Bridgestone wins. The Nike/Tiger connection was also already fully saturated.
I am surprised he doesn’t use a Pro V.
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Jack was the one that got my juices flowing for golf but I would go with Tiger as the best. Jack has more majors but Tiger has more PGA Tour victories and had an incredible junior record before turning pro.
Tigers physical issues over the years were related more to his intense workouts than golf. It was mentioned that he would sometimes workout with the Navy Seals and in one of those workouts he blew his knee out, the knee issue eventually led to back issues. He still hits the gym but apparently not the crazy workouts he use to do.
Tigers physical issues over the years were related more to his intense workouts than golf. It was mentioned that he would sometimes workout with the Navy Seals and in one of those workouts he blew his knee out, the knee issue eventually led to back issues. He still hits the gym but apparently not the crazy workouts he use to do.
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Hmm $85,000 bet pays out $1.2M! 14 to 1 odds against Tiger tough on sports booking.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ts-fanduel-2-million-as-sports-books-lose-big
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ts-fanduel-2-million-as-sports-books-lose-big
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Somewhat over half of Tiger's winner's check.
As to the GOAT argument, it will go on for a long while. I would vote for Tiger over Jack and I thought the win today cemented that, but for most it will come if/when he gets major #19. For me:
1. Tiger succeeded then faced adversity then came back. Today he beat a lot of the young guys he inspired into the game. I don't think Jack ever did anything like that.
2. The level of the game is so much higher now.
a. If Tiger played the Augusta course as it was the year Jack won his last green jacket, he'd probably shoot 25 under. August lengthened one of the holes 40 yards this year.
b1. When I was a kid watching, I never expected anyone to make a putt over about 15 feet, and I don't think they did either. Nobody reached par-5's in two, and if they did they were just happy to find the putting surface. Holing out from a bunker was rare.
b2. Now they are disappointed when they miss a 20-25 footer (and they burn a lot of edges when they miss). They reach par-5's in two and they're trying for a specific part of the green. Holing out from a bunker is pretty common and sometimes expected by some of the announcers.
c. In Jack's day, maybe they didn't talk about it, but none of them seemed to work out, do strength training, flexibility training, psychological training, nutrition, cardio, etc. If you look at the successful guys on tour today they're pretty athletic specimens compared to Jack, Tom Watson, Arnold Palmer, etc. (Bernhard Langer looks like he's an exception).
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I've always been a Tiger fan and was glad to see him get his 15th major yesterday. The discussion as to who is the best can go on ad infinitum. The amazing thing about his win yesterday is he beat a field of very talented young guns with a 43 year old body that has experienced numerous surgeries. The win does illustrate the old adage about the game being played in the six inch space between the ears. Tiger's talent, experience, discipline and course management is what won the day. Congrats Tiger and keep chasing Jack's 18 major record.
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That’s a good way to say it.
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He was a father and a husband when he chose to take part in all that "adolescent behavior" (and that is a nice way to put it) - some forget that. It's one thing to act like an idiot when you are single.........it's quite a different matter to do so when you are a husband and father.
And Tiger may have paid a price for his behavior, but he SHOULD have paid a price, as there should be consequences for your actions. His ex-wife Erin and his kids have also paid a (huge) price for his behavior, and they did NOTHING to deserve what happened to them.
So yeah, he is more mature now, and that's nice, but I personally can't excuse what he put his wife and family through. I'm not a fan.
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Tiger is supposedly a workout fanatic, and could do a ~300 lb bench press. I am not sure if he kept up that type of lifting over the years, but have wondered if that might have contributed to some wear on his body or maybe helped him. After yesterday, maybe the later. Anyway, happy for Tiger and I think its good for golf to see such a dramatic comeback.
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Just anecdotal, but after watching Tiger's swing for several tournaments when he first appeared as a pro, my (orthopedic surgeon) Dad repeatedly said Tiger's back would never hold up and his career would be shortened as a result if he continued with that extreme swing. I'm sure many doctors were speculating the same back then.
The golf swing is not a completely natural motion for the back, and it'll result in back problems if not managed well. You can overdo it, but a proper workout, strength training and stretching can benefit anyone who plays golf and protect your back. FWIW
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Several players, on the last nine, held or shared the lead. Only one did not hit any bad shots once in that position. All of the others, once they saw their name at the top, started hitting poor shots.
The shot Tiger hit on 16, after getting the lead was a great example of the difference between a player in control of his emotions, and the others. That was the part I thought he might not get back after the long time away from the fire.
Something made me watch all four days. I was mesmerized by the level of play.
It was great to see Tiger win with a combination of amazing skills and unbeatable experience. I loved the 12th where he didn't even try to shoot for the pin, and his partners both hit the water. His play was incredible, but the field was fully stacked! I think his exceptional decision making, and his ability to adapt to changing weather conditions, is what made the difference this weekend.
Molinari earned my respect tho. He never gave up, and played incredibly well - well enough to win going away. The heavy air did him in. If he had just bogeyed the final 12 and 15 he would have tied Tiger's final score. His poise was impressive.
It was great to see Tiger win with a combination of amazing skills and unbeatable experience. I loved the 12th where he didn't even try to shoot for the pin, and his partners both hit the water. His play was incredible, but the field was fully stacked! I think his exceptional decision making, and his ability to adapt to changing weather conditions, is what made the difference this weekend.
Molinari earned my respect tho. He never gave up, and played incredibly well - well enough to win going away. The heavy air did him in. If he had just bogeyed the final 12 and 15 he would have tied Tiger's final score. His poise was impressive.
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It was just like old times on the last day of a major - Tiger on the Leaderboard hitting solid and smart shots, and everyone else in contention looking over their shoulder, trying too hard and making mistakes.
But Koepke is impressive. I hadn't realized he'd won 3 of last 6 majors going into the Masters. He looks like a new and bigger version of Tiger.
But Koepke is impressive. I hadn't realized he'd won 3 of last 6 majors going into the Masters. He looks like a new and bigger version of Tiger.
Having watched his earlier ascent and subsequent descent...I was happy to see him win again. And who didn't choke up a bit with the side by side of the win hugging his Dad and this one hugging his children and his mom.
A Masters for the golf history books.
A Masters for the golf history books.
This is the kind of stuff that drives me nuts when it comes to Tiger...and the way the commentators and most people view him. Tiger is a terrible person. I wonder if Tiger will ever share the infidelity stories and what he put his kids mother through? What kind of father would do that to his children? But, people will say everyone makes mistakes. Well, Tiger made the mistake with a dozen chicks...that we know of.
For the first 2 decades of his career...he never gave a crap about the fans. He never acknowledged them, rarely signed autographs, rarely gave fist bumps or high fives. Yet people adored him.
Tigers a billionaire yet he stiffs waiters/waitresses all the time on tips. This isnt a rare occurrence either.
But, I cant put all the blame on tiger. His dad was also a womanizer. Heck, Tigers old man didnt even live with his mom. So its no surprise Tiger did what he did...doesnt make it right.
The moral of the story is, people love a winner. Doesnt matter how they are in life, how they treat people, if the person wins all is forgiven. I just dont understand this mentality.
The only saving grace is his legacy will forever be tarnished with things he did in the past. Is he good for golf, of course. He brings in a ton of $$ for other golfers. Is he talented...uhh, yeah, to say the least. Other than that...hes a scumbag.
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All that ponyboy wrote may be true. I’m thankful to have learned not to make sports stars or celebrities a role model for me or my kids or grand kids. I’m also well able to separate their personal failings from my needs as a fan. He played great golf. That’s all I ever cared about. I’ve watched golf history in my lifetime and it’s been great. My “good for him” is tied to his golf expertise. I was similarly excited when Jack won his last Masters and was pained when Tom Watson missed that putt to win The Open in the way later part of his career. Underdogs, great golf, drama, it was all good.
I'm sure Jordan is a saint. I wouldn't idolize an athlete, but there talent...certainly. As for moral character making up the "greats" of athletes, or any demographic...of course...people do judge. Finau sure did keep up with him on that back 9.
