Political hijack of Xpcommon's introduction

[Mr._johngalt]

i want to share my views with other people.

You came to the right place. I "share my views " pretty liberally. If I don't see anything interesting from the "peanut gallery", I just go back and reread my previous stuff. Always entertaining and mostly always spot on.

JG

 

[uncledrz]

Welcome.
Let's hear 'em, your views that is.

 

[Cut-Throat]

You came to the right place. I "share my views " pretty liberally.
JG

Yes, I think you are a Closet Liberal. You just haven't figured it out yet. BTW Liberal stands for Liberty!

 

[Howard]

Liberal actually stands for being very liberal with other people's money.

In Canada they are called Fibberals, promise the world, then renege on their promises.(to Fib is an English expression which means to lie, or not tell the truth).

 

[Spanky]

Liberal actually stands for being very liberal with other people's money.

Very humorous.

 

[ladelfina]

You tell 'em, Cut-Throat!

In economics, though, the "Liberal" school is more free-market oriented (as opposed to Socialist). Hence, confusion. I don't know how the American political term "liberal" came into being.

 

[Howard]

England and the U.S.A , two countries dividied by a common language.

 

[cute fuzzy bunny]

Well if those danged english people would only learn to speak american, there wouldnt be a problem!

 

[unclemick]

Hmmm

First job out of college(Boeing) - we had Smith and Smith - they both claimed they were Brit's - one graduated from University and the other from work/study/night school. Couldn't understand either one of them but I 'knew' they weren't from the 'same country'.

One drove 'a big bloody American stationwagon' and the other had a picture of 1936 Bristol AC(memory) he was bringing over 'to really drive.'

 

[Dawg52]

Very humorous.

It is funny the lables that have been placed on republicans and democrats. Democrats = tax and spend. Republicans = conservatives. I read the other day that 2006's federal budget deficit is projected at over 400 billion. When Bill Clinton left office we had a surplus.  I never was a Bill Clinton fan but the numbers don't lie. 

 

[Rustic23]

Statistics never lie, statisticians do.

 

[Dawg52]

Statistics never lie, statisticians  do.

That is true and accountants with Enron & Worldcom. Opps......I better be careful. I'm an accountant.   

 

[SamHouston]

It is funny the lables that have been placed on republicans and democrats. Democrats = tax and spend. Republicans = conservatives. I read the other day that 2006's federal budget deficit is projected at over 400 billion. When Bill Clinton left office we had a surplus. I never was a Bill Clinton fan but the numbers don't lie.

That's an "apple and oranges" comparison when you remember that Bill Clinton wasn't faced with a war on terrorism to finance. Totally meaningless, IMO, to say that Clinton left with a surplus and it's Bush's fault that we have a deficit.

Yep, the numbers do lie in this case.

 

[getoutearly]

You tell 'em Sam.

Never believe someone that says they "never was a Bill Clinton fan but... Either you are or your are not a Bill Clinton fan. And the answer says a LOT about you....

 

[Dawg52]

You tell 'em Sam. 

Never believe someone that says they "never was a Bill Clinton fan but...  Either you are or your are not a Bill Clinton fan.  And the answer says a LOT about you....

You are nuts! But I will call a spade a spade! I like Bush on certain policies but I don't agree with everything he stands for. I guess with you it's either ALL black or ALL white.

Sam, as for as it being like comparing apples and oranges......yeah one could argue that. But the extent to which we have got sucked into this war IS the current administrations fault. But everyone has an opinion on that.

 

[SamHouston]

Sam, as for as it being like comparing apples and oranges......yeah one could argue that. But the extent to which we have got sucked into this war IS the current administrations fault. But everyone has an opinion on that.

I really don't want to argue the politics of the situation, so I'll just say that both administrations share responsibility for where we are today, IMO. It was largely the inaction of the Clinton administration that led to the actions that the Bush administration felt were necessary.

Maybe we should move this discussion down into the forum that's more appropriate for this kind of thing...we seem to have hijacked someone else's thread.

 

[HFWR]

Not gonna do it; wouldn't be prudent...

 

[Nords]

Maybe we should move this discussion down into the forum that's more appropriate for this kind of thing...we seem to have hijacked someone else's thread.

Not gonna do it; wouldn't be prudent... 

I'll move this hijack down to "Other Topics".

Back to you, guys. Have a blast.

 

[eridanus]

That's an "apple and oranges" comparison when you remember that Bill Clinton wasn't faced with a war on terrorism to finance. Totally meaningless, IMO, to say that Clinton left with a surplus and it's Bush's fault that we have a deficit.

Yep, the numbers do lie in this case.

The federal government has increased spending exclusive of the "war on terror." In other words, Bush the younger is a pro-big government proponent.

I agree that it's not entirely Bush's fault..but then the economy has done better with Democracts in office then Republicans. It may be because the Repubs set up a good structure for the Dems to then screw up but them's the facts.

 

[SamHouston]

The federal government has increased spending exclusive of the "war on terror." In other words, Bush the younger is a pro-big government proponent.

I agree that it's not entirely Bush's fault..but then the economy has done better with Democracts in office then Republicans. It may be because the Repubs set up a good structure for the Dems to then screw up but them's the facts.

I can surely agree with that last statement since Clinton inherited an economy that was on the brink of taking off and left one behind that was on the brink of recession.

In fact, I can even pretty much agree with the first statement. Bush is not at all a believer in conservative spending. He's as big government and big spending as any Democrat in recent memory. I think that the Congress is completely out of control when it comes to spending but I have little hope that we'll ever be able to change that situation.

 

[cute fuzzy bunny]

Oh boy.

If I remember my numbers, clintons spending was pretty high, but there was a higher tax revenue intake from all that stock market funny business. My further recollection was that nothing was 'taking off' until after clinton was elected and didnt hit the 'brink of recession' until after he was replaced. Its convenient to claim that he was responsible for the bad half of that but not the good half.

That having been said, i think the economy has very little correlation with who is sitting in the white house.

By the way, I voted for HW Bush and even GW the first time. Didnt vote for clinton. Although he was likeable, intelligent and capable. Which is more than i can say for GW. Had I known he was an idiot, I wouldnt have voted for him the first time.

 

[Nords]

By the way, I voted for HW Bush and even GW the first time.  Didnt vote for clinton.  Although he was likeable, intelligent and capable.  Which is more than i can say for GW.  Had I known he was an idiot, I wouldnt have voted for him the first time.

My FIL was still working for CBS during the '92 election campaign. His crew was mostly assigned to Dan "Rain Man" Quayle but they followed HW Bush around too. After a few of his behind-the-camera stories I decided that even Clinton was safer. First time in my life I voted Democrat but I've gotten over it.

Who the heck was Clinton running against in '96? Case closed.

In 2000 I voted for Colin Powell because I was scared that Professor Gore would take away the Internet and give us all detention.

In 2004 I voted for Bush Cheney Rumsfeld Rice aw %$#^ Hastert I mean Kerry.

Can't wait for 2008. It couldn't possibly get worse!

 

[cute fuzzy bunny]

Bahb Dolllllle.

I voted at home in the last election. South Park had it right: Turd Sandwich or a Giant Douche.

I cant wait to see what we get in '08 either. I'm pretty sure that either way, it wont matter much...

 

[ladelfina]

Had I known he was an idiot, I wouldnt have voted for him the first time.

CFB, what exactly led you to think he wasn't an idiot?

"Never again in the halls of Washington, D.C., do I want to have to make explanations that I can't explain." —George W. Bush, Portland, Oregon, Oct. 31, 2000

"They said, 'You know, this issue doesn't seem to resignate with the people.' And I said, you know something? Whether it resignates or not doesn't matter to me, because I stand for doing what's the right thing, and what the right thing is hearing the voices of people who work." —George W. Bush, Portland, Ore., Oct. 31, 2000

"That's a chapter, the last chapter of the 20th, 20th, the 21st century that most of us would rather forget. The last chapter of the 20th century. This is the first chapter of the 21st century. " —George W. Bush, on the Monica Lewinsky scandal, Arlington Heights, Ill., Oct. 24, 2000

You can find dozens more like this at:
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbushisms2000.htm
all pre-Nov. 2000.

"This is Preservation Month. I appreciate preservation. It's what you do when you run for president. You gotta preserve." —George W. Bush, speaking during "Perseverance Month" at Fairgrounds Elementary School in Nashua, New Hampshire, Jan. 28, 2000

"I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job is underestimating." —George W. Bush, U.S. News & World Report, April 3, 2000

 

 

[uncledrz]

That's an "apple and oranges" comparison when you remember that Bill Clinton wasn't faced with a war on terrorism to finance.  Totally meaningless, IMO, to say that Clinton left with a surplus and it's Bush's fault that we have a deficit.

Yep, the numbers do lie in this case.

Even before 9/11 Bush's policies were to cut taxes and increase spending. Yes, the defecit is his fault. And Congress' for its absolute lack of fiscal responsibility. Little wonder when money controls them rather than the public good.
Sam, one can be conservative and at the same time understand that Bush has done a very poor job for us. Its time for this country to realize the tremendous mistake we made with this administration, fess up and make sure that it doesn't happen again.
Uncledrz